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just agreeing with at least one other saints fan would be a start ,ive never seen you agree with anybody,there must be somebody out there who has the same great,forward thinking ideals as you :rolleyes:

as i said on another thread... 'i know a couple of the 'minor celebs' involved with the trust well,including nick, and although they are good blokes i dont think i would like them to have a say in running the club.they all love the club as much as you and i,but for me this is where the problems start,would they make the sound,realistic and sometimes unpopular decisions required or would they make decisions driven by their heart which might be popular with the masses but could be disasterous for the club.in a way i think crouch had a touch of this attitude which sometimes manifested itself in the form of some of his cringy outbursts.' i dont want to cheapen their efforts as they are friends of mine but they dont and probably wont represent what i want for the club and i just have a feeling they would jump into bed with whoever happens to be top dog and become darkened by the shadow of somebody who perhaps i dont wish to be involved in running my club. i also didnt like the silence coming from the trust in our hour of need.they dont have the numbers and they dont have any power to influence anything tbh and whos to say that they wouldnt take the devils shilling?

i know a couple of the 'minor celebs' involved with the trust well,including nick, and although they are good blokes i dont think i would like them to have a say in running the club.they all love the club as much as you and i,but for me this is where the problems start,would they make the sound,realistic and sometimes unpopular decisions required or would they make decisions driven by their heart which might be popular with the masses but could be disasterous for the club.in a way i think crouch had a touch of this attitude which sometimes manifested itself in the form of some of his cringy outbursts.

before theres a willing buyer there has to be a willing seller and it doesnt matter if the fans raise £30m, if lowe and wilde dont want to sale then the 'fans with money' will be no better off.besides,i dont think the fans owning a club is a good idea,in fact i would hate it.

got any odds for that chocco?:-)

...will we get any? its about time we got some luck/magic even if it just for a few minutes. we are currently 16/1 (ladbrokes) to win 1-0 is it worth a punt? COME ON YOU RED AND WHITE MACHINE

things can only get better.happy new year to you all even rupert and michael.listen to the fans and do the right thing.

does it really matter?,i dont care if he is coming back to play or coming back to be sold,either way it can only benefit us.if we need clearance we need clearance,if it comes through on time then all well and good,if not then what have we lost? get your head out of your arse alpine and at least sometimes try and pull in the right direction.

they did the right thing,you cant argue with that and they took £25 of you for your trouble :-).new year new start,give it up.

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/4008467.Saganowski_could_be_in_to_face_United/ good or bad? he has played a couple of times against them in recent weeks so that might help us out but he has only scored 5 times in 24 which is not a great return. depends how he is used at the end of the day i suppose.

a mate of mine was part of the team set up for the development of youth players for the whole of england,his job was to study the way that the european countries set out their youth policies and then basically copy what he had studied and used it in england.this was all fa approved and funded and he was sent many times to holland to study the youth teams of ajax and all of the other major teams in holland,spending weeks at a time watching every aspect of their development,his conclusions were that the dutch teams were at least 15 years ahead of us when developing young players. this all happened in the mid to late 90's at about the same time owen was breaking into the england team,he predicted that owen would not play for england past 30 and that he would be constantly plagued with injury because he was thrust into the big time too soon,basically doing too much too soon at an early age.turns out he was right and i suspect the same will happen to rooney. so i suppose the lesson is,the youngsters need more time to develop,thrusting them into the limelight too soon will just ruin them. what lowe is doing at saints is in no way related to anything the dutch do,for a start they give their youth players many years to develop at their own pace......something which isnt happening here.

why not hoddle?,it seems he is busy doing his own thing at the moment but i sure he would be available on a part time basis.lowe and hoddle obviously get on and hoddle isnt shy working with the youngsters ,also hoddle likes the european way and i think he would be the ideal person to offer his experience to JP.

good post SB and i think lowe will have to do something,just sitting back and doing nothing will end in tears.either he has to back JP and give him as much help as needed or admit defeat and start again.

this would be the ideal scenario but removing lowe will take too long and we havnt got that sort of time on our hands,by the time we get lowe out and replaced with an alternative we could already be relegated.we need an injection of inspiration,confidence and discipline that a new manager could bring,this might not be a long term view but it could be the impetous we need to survive. lowe and wildes days are numbered anyway imo,give them enough rope and they will eventually hang themselves.the priority has to be to maintain our present status in the championship.

this is what i have been saying,either back what we have got or speculate to accumulate,obviously not to the degree that burley was allowed to speculate but at a decent,manageable level that will give us a fighting chance of staying up. if lowe is unable to do this then he should come out and say so.he should say that 'we are going to sell players to pay the bills,there will be no money available to buy players' it might not be what we want to hear but at least we will know where we stand.

....in the january transfer market? if he really wants them to succeed like many have stated, he should back JP to give him the best chance possible. some have stated that we are skint and we will have to sell to buy,some have speculated that surman and lallana will be the meat on offer,this is ok as long as they are replaced with at least as good if not better or we can get 3 or 4 decent players for the price of 2. obviously if we are skint this isnt going to happen,but how can lowe then back his manager?........he cant,all he can offer is the pick of the academy which tbh isnt really any backing at all. personally i think the 'dutch dream' has run its course,perhaps in a different time with a bit of money it could have worked out but as it stands it hasnt. what have we got out of the experience?....nothing really apart from a couple of decent young players who have got their chance a lot sooner than they expected and the confirmation that 'you win nothing with kids'. RUPERT LOWE AND MICHAEL WILDE,DIG DEEP AND BACK YOUR MEN TO SUCCEED OR ARRANGE AN ALTERNATIVE THAT WILL.

would they have extended his loan if he hadnt had the accident? but the most important thing is a man has lost his life and has left 5 kids,if jordan is guilty he should be punished.

ok fair enough but lowe will act if he thinks things are not going right,he might be a lot of things but history has shown that he isnt shy when it comes to getting rid of a problem manager. as for the finances,then i dont think anybody on here has an inside knowledge,most of it is speculation and the word of rupert.....ok we might not be as well off as we would like but i dont think we are totally on the bones of our arses.as i have said many times, a decent manager virtually pays for himself and is usually one of the lower paid members of staff,definately cheaper than most of the players so there is no reason not to have a change of manager.the only stumbling block is how much that manager would need in the transfer market to do his job? im guessing that he would want at least 3 maybe 4 players but this also could be covered by loan players. i have been a fan of JP but it is obvious that things are not working out and we are in danger of going down,i have a bit of inside info about certain players not being happy and there are mutterings of some changes on the horizon,although im not sure what those changes will be. it seems that maybe the wheels are already in motion.

rubbish!,the system may be in place for us to act all european but in no way is it set in stone.the senior players have played in many systems in their careers so they can adapt to any style of play,in fact i would say that the seniors are struggling a bit with the current set up so they would be glad to revert to a more traditional style.the youngsters are still learning and they certainly were not playing/training in the european way until recently. what you are saying is nonsense,are you saying that we will take years to revert back to a traditional british style of football? a new manager who leans to a more traditional style of play will just pick the best players at his disposal to play in a certain position,there will be no undoing of the 'brainwashing' that has supposedly ocurred during the previous reign,if the players at his disposal are not right for a certain job they will have to learn quick or leave. i refuse to believe that we will not be able to change our fate if a new manager comes in,and i also refuse to believe that it will be so difficult to change our style of play,if i do then we might as well all give up now and not bother going to support our team anymore,you might as well say we are as good as relegated.

did you not read the post? i said...... HOPEFULLY this will be the turning point for a few players and HOPEFULLY it will dawn on them what needs to be done to stay in this league. this sentiment was also echoed by a saints legend.....david armstrong.is he talking baloney as well? i would guess he knows a lot more about football than somebody who doesnt even attend any matches....dont you think? wheres the baloney? if i had said.... this will be the turning point for a few players and it will dawn on them what needs to be done to stay in this league. then it could be said i was talking baloney. were you there today alpine???

would have taken that score at the start tbf but it did hurt especially as we had been playing so well and could have gone a couple up.sill we didnt lose and reading are probably one of the better teams in the league and we made them look sh1te tbh.hopefully this will be the turning point for a few players and hopefully it will dawn on them what needs to be done to stay in this league.

listening to the radio on the way home they said that surman was a bit sore from boxing day???? which could mean anything really.

it was deffo 4-4-2 from the start with holmes allowed to roam a bit,probably not by design but more free will,the formation did change in the second half and seemed to go back to what we have been playing previously and this did allow reading a bit more of the game. this is only my opinon but whatever the formation was it seemed to work well and we played some good football so it has to be applauded.

it was boosted by a load of russian lads,well done to them.

no he wasnt DMG and paterson were playing in a partnership and the players were being told to pump it upto paterson at every oppurtunity.