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Has to be our worst signing ever, by a mile.

Marsden, Richards, kakhoul, Dodd, pahars, Hurst?, Oakley, bridge, Ripely, Hiley?, beattie, p jones, Davies, Claus, Gray, d jones, Some non-descript Norwegian, Hughes,, Boa Morte, x, Benali. Front: x, ***t, cowens.

That argument is a complete cop out, it's nonsense like that which makes me hate politicians. Wether it is before the event or after it is irrelevant, we still havn't had a say.

I can see support for UKIP growing and growing to be honest. Many of the issues people face everyday such as downward pressure on wages, lack of housing, difficulty in getting your kid into your chosen school, pressure on services and youth unemployment make the open door immigration policy seem barmy.

I lost count of the amount of times Clegg resorted to slating Farage and UKIP instead of dealing with the question. They were supposed to be debating the EU, what the hell has Farage's opinion on Putin got to do with anything?

Farage is wiping the floor with him.

Exactly, why do you think he wanted to come out and tell us what a difficult financial position the club are in?

They would never say anything else.

Hoffsteter obviously said what he said for a reason. Last week our manager was saying we had the best left back in the world, today we have a director announcing a "difficult" financial position and being left with a "burden". They might as well have said "Gentlemen, let the bidding commence". The figures don't seem like anything to worry though, it all depends how much money KL wants to make/throw away.

Na, they just make it all up for a laff.

"Whilst I perceive that we have inherited a difficult situation financially, there are now clear and structured plans in place to progress the club and avoid a similar situation from occurring again," Hofstetter said in a statement. Cortese was at Southampton from 2009 and was widely credited with helping to bring stability off the pitch after years of financial turmoil. However, Hofstetter says the new board must act now to eradicate some of the "burdens" of that regime. We do not HAVE to sell anyone because we are owned by a billionaire but reading the above I think we probably will.

Oh dear, looks like we will sell Shaw then: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26813363 No wonder they got shot of Cortese.

Martinez is showing what an average manager Moyes is.

Warnock, like he would go there! What a complete and utter shambles that club is, just a mention of the word "portsmouth" on the radio now has me laughing. It's like watching a slow motion car crash and I get the feeling we are approaching the part when the crash test dummie's ass goes through his face and into the windscreen.

Agree. I think someone, most likely the pilot or co-pilot, went nuts (or make a protest), turned the comms of and made the sharp turn. The crew obviously shat themselves so after a period of trying to reason with him attempted to smash the cock-pit door in. That's when he made the sharp ascent - to either stop them breaking the door down or to do them in. Then either the plane flew South on auto-pilot with everyone dead or the perpetrator wanted to hide what he had done.

I suggested that on page 7 but apparently it's been debunked, not sure how.

These links show a good scientific explanation of the complex mathematical puzzle that was solved by Inmarsat engineers surviving on pizza for 6 days/nights while working on the problem in London. http://physicsbuzz.physicscentral.com/2014/03/how-did-inmarsat-really-find-flight.html http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-25/malaysia-jet-traced-with-physics-in-pizza-fueled-inmarsat-huddle.html I see no reason to doubt the evidence, the certainly seem to be pretty transparent about what they are doing as well, can't see any motive for a cover up of any sort. I doubt we will ever find out the reasons behind this, I think there is a week before the black box stops sending a signal and a guy on the radio today said it would be like searching for a suitcase in the Alps, underwater.

Wow, that is heroic stuff. Well done West stand Apologies if any of my posts offended, weren't meant to. I'm just not a big fan of some of the paranoid conspiracy theories flying around. You obviously know your stuff!

Wow, that is heroic stuff. Well done mate. Apologies if any of my posts offended, weren't meant to.

If a bomb/explosion took out the comms and killed or impaired the pilots whilst damaged the cockpit couldn't that explain the erratic flying? If a passenger or flight attendant is trying to fly a damaged plane without any help it's probably gonna end up with some weird results.

They might be watching Gosport twice a season soon.

At first I thought it was an attempted 9/11 incident that was shot down but the technical data and the satellite info didn't fit. Then when the pilots personal issues were reported I thought suicide was most likely but if it turns out the plane flew all the way down to the Southern Indian Ocean that theory looks a bit unlikely. I'm leaning more now to a explosion/incident that knocked out the comms and damaged the cockpit, the pilots or someone on board tried to turn it around but everyone on board died/loss consciousness and it ended off just flying until the fuel ran out. This theory would obviously falls flat if it is certain the comms were deliberately switched off. The whole thing is ****ing weird.

I was taking the p!ss in response to Weston claiming to be ITK about one of the biggest, as yet, unsolved mysteries of our time. I never once aimed it towards your hero guy. The point I was trying to make was that I have read untold views from pilots over the last week to know that, thought they are best placed to have an opinion, you shouldn't necessarily take what they say as gospel. Blimey, I posted one such theory earlier on in this thread as was immediately told it was nonsense. As for what my opinion is worth, obviously very little. But I think after the Rigby episode you are probably not the best judge. Crisis actors weren't they?

More on the ping thing here: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-would-have-been-found-if-communications-box-had-10-upgrade-1441174 Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 Would Have Been Found If Communications Box Had $10 Upgrade The missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 might have been found by now if a small communications box on the plane had been configured to send out more frequent reports, according to British satellite communications firm Inmarsat. Timeline Malaysia Airlines' Missing Flight MH370 Malaysian Airlines flight MH370 took off from Kuala Lumpur International Airport for Beijing with 239 people onboard at 00:41 local time on 8 March but lost contact with air traffic control 50 minutes later. It has now emerged that the airplane's Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (Acars) system was deliberately turned off, yet the Boeing 777 plane still continued to send out "pings" to Inmarsat's satellite for seven hours after it lost contact. The pings are small bursts of data which are sent out by the satellite network to the plane every hour to check if it is still on the network, and according to Inmarsat, Flight MH370 sent out seven hourly pings in response to the network's request. "When the plane was still missing on Sunday (the day after it disappeared), our engineers looked at the network data and realised that the plane had been sending signals," Inmarsat Senior Vice President Chris McLaughlin told IBTimes UK. "We couldn't say what direction it had gone in, but the plane wasn't standing still because the signals were getting longer, i.e. further in distance from our satellite." Data transmissions not mandated The planned search area for MH370 debris in the southern Indian OceanReuters The hunt for the missing plane has been going on for the last 12 days and 26 countries have joined in to search. The latest lead pointed to two large objects floating in the southern Indian ocean, but nine hours of searching found only a freighter and two schools of dolphins. Critics of the aerospace industry are now calling out its "outdated" accident investigation process and asking for data from the black box to be streamed in-flight to the cloud, which could be expensive, but McLaughlin says that the plane could have been found by now if the communications box buried in the plane's avionics had been configured to send out more frequent reports. "What we have at the moment would have been fine if the airlines had been mandated to provide data on all their flights. The only area where data is mandated is on the transatlantic route, which is so busy that everyone needs to know where all the other planes are," he said. "We may never know what happened to the plane because the cockpit is not mandated to be monitored in other areas, and we urge regulators to look into this." The Inmarsat Classic Aero is installed in 90% of the world's commercial jets, and it is this little box which sent out the pings of information. The box has been in use "for decades" and sends information to the Inmarsat-3 and Inmarsat-4 satellites stationed in the geosynchronous belt 22,300 miles above Earth. Only costs $10 "You really do need to know the height, distance, direction and a record of what has been going on the flight deck in a regular burst every 15 to 30 minutes," said McLaughlin. "If the box had been configured to send out these bursts, we would have located the plane by now." Read More: Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370: Black Box Data 'Should be Uploaded to the Cloud' Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370: Only Dolphins and Freighter Found as Debris Search Proves Fruitless Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370: Australian Planes Search Indian Ocean for Debris Spotted by Satellite Malaysia Airlines MH370: Fox News Host Refers to Noah's Ark in Search for Missing Plane Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370: The Agony and Anger of Families Desperate for News Configuring the box is up to each individual airline operator but receiving data from a five to seven hour flight would only cost $10 (£6) per flight. Air France Flight 447 crashed into the Atlantic Ocean in 2009 but within five days, major wreckage had been removed by the Brazilian Navy, because Air France had configured their Classic Aero box to send back information every four minutes. The black box, however, took another two years and €32m to retrieve from the ocean floor. An upgrade to Classic Aero is currently going through testing, called SwiftBroadband. The new product will give 512Kbps of broadband to flights, which would be enough to send text messages, make phone calls, and crucially, to stream information into the cloud. "When it takes two years to find a black box, you're looking for a needle in a haystack, and technology has moved on now. You need both the ability to burst/stream information off the plane in real-time, and you need a black box in case of a [disaster] so we can find out what happened," McLaughlin stressed. "Streaming information about the flight into the cloud would work with 512Kbps as you're talking about small bits of text-based data, no graphics, no video, just kilobits, not megabits."

I havn't tried to bully anyone, just disagreed with his theory. Nothing wrong with that. Despite his legendary status for whatever he did I am still not convinced it's a big cover up. Happy to be proved wrong though.