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So if Pap's theory is correct the McCanns have been actively involved in reopening an investigation into a crime they committed. Aided by the Met who are desperate to cover it up and pursue a false line of inquiries!

Have you got a link to the list of fingerprints and DNA found in the apartment?

I think all missing child investigations they will assume they are alive unless there is clear evidence they are not and also remain in contact with the parents. I'm not sure what is strange about either.

It's clear from this that the Met are doing all they can to find out what happened. The word 'abduction' does not appear once here... http://content.met.police.uk/Appeal/Latest-update-on-Madeleine-McCann-case/1400018438045/1257246741786 They are also working closely with the Portuguese Police so if they did think the McCanns did it they would share their info/suspicions/theories with the Met. If the forensic evidence you keep banging on about proves anything then the Met will be all over it like a rash - you can guarantee that.

Much of it is just attention seeking by blokes going through a mid-life crisis IMO. A load of my mates have started doing stupid sh!t for charity now they are hitting 40 when for years they havn't given a monkeys about charity. I prefer to sit on my ass and give money to charity via direct debit as I always have.

LOL, we can all read the evidence that is online, what is YOUR theory based on this evidence?

Pap, why don't you just post your theory of how you think the McCanns pulled it off? The more you throw insults around the more it looks like you can't think of one. Just ONE plausible theory, I am genuinely interested in how they could have done it.

I agree the parents have acted strangely on occasions but they do seem to be a bit of an odd couple. I wouldn't read too much into her not answering the questions, she had already gave an account of what happened the day after Madeline went missing. The interview where she was treated as a suspect was months afterwards and if Madeline was abducted wouldn't have done anything to help find her, the questions were only aimed at pinning it on her - I expect that's why she clammed up. To be honest if I was in her situation and the local plod had made a complete hash of finding my kid, then 3 months later tried to pin it on me I would probably tell them to f*ck off. The forensic evidence appears sketchy, it would be interesting to hear from an expert about the probabilities involved. The fact that the Met don't seem to be taking it seriously suggests it could be pretty meaningless unless there is something more concrete to go with it. From what I've read dog finding cadaver scent could mean a whole number of things, it doesn't even prove a body was in the apartment let alone Madeline's. Maybe Madaline's DNA would bound to be found in a car used by her parents for a period of time, their clothes must have her DNA all over them. Only a police expert can analyse the forensic evidence, not some nutjob on the web with access to some of the facts. My guess is that it was some lone weirdo who lives within an couple of hours drive max. Was noncing around and somehow noticed the kid was in there without her parents (could have heard her cries or watched a parent go in check then leave) and took the opportunity. The apartment was horribly exposed.

I think abduction is the most likely theory but am happy to entertain the idea that the McCanns did it if someone can explain how they managed to make the body vanish in the window of opportunity they had. Pap had a pop at the Met for persisting with the abduction theory yet is unable to come up with an plausible alternative. The Met have obviously looked into and didn't think the McCanns could do it either - hence they seem pretty certain it's an abduction.

Resorting to insults and changing the subject again. Go on, just tell us how they could have done it... ...if you can

Bravo, you can spot a typo, what a clever boy. Shame you can't come up with one single timeline of events that supports your theory. Until you do it's pointless you posting your ramblings on here.

Mate, you would be sh!t at Cleudo. "It was Colonel Mustard, dunno where but with what but he definitely did it"

So you are certain the McCanns did it but don't have the slightest clue how they could have carried it out!

Regurgitate what? You have come up with one plausible timeline of events to support your theory yet. Just one possible way they could have made her body vanish inbetween finding her dead, scoffing down a few plates of tapas and raising the alarm.

Insane line of thinking?! I just want you to give the version of events you think is most likely. You seem certain the McCanns did it yet have not explained how. it's like.. "Sir, I am sure the MCanns did it" How? "Don't have a clue, I'm just sure they did" I genuinely want to know how you think they did it. I am happy to believe that they could accidentally drug her and cause her death (although is there a drug out there that two doctors would take on holiday that could sedate a child but also kill them if given slightly too much?). I just don't think they had the time or means to make the body vanish like it did. You obviously think they could have....

LOL just as I thought, couldn't give one plausible scenario. I'm not asking you to tell me what I should think, just tell how YOU think the McCanns pulled it off. If you are that certain they did it you must have some sort of idea? Like all conspiracy theory nutjobs, when backed into a corner you resort to insults and changing the subject. You were the same with the 9/11, Boston bombings and Rigby theories, make big "the government did it" statements then when it comes to the nuts and bolts of how it could have been carried out you fall flat on your face and get shown up to be the fantasist you know you are.

I've looked at details at some of the evidence and think that abduction is by far the most likely. Gives us a plausible scenario where the McCanns killed her. I'm guessing you can't, like all conspiracy theorist nutjobs you pick up on the slightest element of doubt and make grandiose claims that can't be backed up with an alternative theory. Go one, just one possible timeline of events, in detail...

Pap, you still havn't posed your timeline of events surrounding the death of Madeline McCann and disposal or her body. You seem so certain her parents did it you must have a bulletproof scenario that ties in with the evidence. We need details, how and by whom she was killed, what drug, what time she died, when they found out and how they disposed of and concealed the body...

I see they failed to mention that we had more shots, more shots on target and more possession.

France must have a seriously good midfield if he can't get in the squad.

He HAS to get an England call up soon playing like that.

Great performance, we need to put these mid-table sides to the sword though if we want to finish top 6.

Like I said. Feel free to post your version of events of how and by whom she was killed, what drug, what time she died, when they found out and how they disposed of and concealed the body...

I called you a nutjob because to you EVERYTHING is a big conspiracy, regardless of the evidence. The Boston bombings were a false flag because of some deal between the US and Russia over Syria (that worked out well!), the 9/11 planes were flown by robots or something and Lee Rigby was hacked to death by British secret agents, or is still alive or something. I accept that there is a chance the McCanns were responsible but find the idea very very unlikely. There were Cadaver alerts in the Shannon Matthews case and she was not even dead. If the forensic evidence in anyway prove Madeline was killed in the apartment or her corpse was in the hire car the MET will already know if they were responsible. You need to be an expert in the science to draw any conclusions from it. If someone can come up with a believable theory as to how the McCanns made her body vanish in half an hour, in area they didn't know well, without (as far as we know) the use of a vehicle, and without acting suspiciously, I would be happy to see it. Feel free to post your version of events of how and by whom she was killed, what drug, what time she died, when they found out and how they disposed of and concealed the body...

We pay £90 a month for electric and gas, that's for two of us in a big 3 bed detached. It is modern and well insulated but we do tend to like it warm. That's with a combi boiler. At the last house we had free electric for 6 years so 90 a month is a bit of a shock. The last place was in some weird twilight zone where we had electric but no one sent us any bills.