Daren, it's the way you feel the need to start another thread about a topic that is already being ' debated', just because you don't like the way the other has gone that gets my goat.
Can't you keep your squabbling with 19 to the one thread so it's easily avoidable for the rest of us who couldn't give a toss?
I cannot believe that the same posters are happy to argue about the same topics over and over again. You know what all of you think now because it's been done to death, so can't you find something better to do?