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Is that a confession...? 😁

Do you know his name and we've got to guess what it is? P.s. we have an u24 side...?

Unbeaten run you say? Sign him up, that's all I look for in a manager!

Which, coincidentally, is one of my favourite soundbites

If only he had some sychophants posting on here who could feed such information back to him...

I thought it was supposed to be realistic...?

Are relgious factors such as Ramadan included?

Anyone else hankering for the days of yore where you didn't have to worry about buying players that fitted a certain style. Just buy some decent players and get out there and play football rather than all this over-thinking the game malarkey! FFS

And there was me thinking he was instructed to play that way by the manager... That's twice I've been wrong so far today... Fingers crossed for third time lucky...!

My view is that there probably wasn't much difference in the overall quality of our respective squads. Certainly not of a significance that's worth arguing the toss about on an internet football forum anyway.... (And, in anticipation of the next line of enquiry in this interogation... no, I haven't based my view on any stats or science, just my gut feel / hunch, which could of course be wrong under scrutiny.... but I'm fine with being wrong... you should try it some time.... )

Oh, go on then.... I'll relent on this occassion...

Farmer Saint and MLG... never before seen in the same room together... make of that what you will.... P.s. I didn't realise selective quoting from t'internet was back in fashion.... I guess two can play at that game....

I wholeheartedly agree with Fabrice!

Still awaiting rescue the last I heard...

If Man City are in breach of the rules then how come we don't win by default? A case of the 'big boys' pulling the strings....? And, not only do they flout the rules, but they then get to broadcast the game exclusively on their subscription channel. I hope we've kicked up a stink rather than meekly agreeing to this bias... And, talking of bias, why isn't it being hosted at a neutral venue anyway...?

At least no beavers were harmed, thankfully.

I disagree, but that's fine

Conflation my dear Watson.... I'm 'knocking' those that over-egg the signifcance of the unbeaten run not the unbeaten run itself. I'll repeat for the hard of understanding... it was a good thing, not a bad thing. We both agree that it was "pretty good". The only difference is that some people think it was more praiseworthy than others. Probably more signficant things in the world to disagree on... p.s. just because someone isn't overwhelmed by something doesn't mean they're underwhelmed... that's the black and white world a certain other poster lives in... I mostly live on Planet Ambivalence...

Appreciate I'm in danger of going into 'dog with a bone' MLG mode here... but what advantage did the unbeaten run give us over our promotion rivals who didn't have such a run? As above, I'm not knocking it... it was a good thing, not a bad thing... but what I don't get is those that seem to think it was more than a "statistical quirk" (to borrow WG's way of putting it)

Count me in if we're now (somewhat conveniently for the sake of the argument) labelling it as "a pretty good achievement"... that's a bit of a downgrade on those that have previously held it up as some kind of epiphanistic achievement (the club's social media team at the time, for starters). The bottom line is that we didn't gain any ground on our promotion rivals as a result of it. But, yes, I'll go with "pretty good", on that we can agree

It is possible to hold multiple feelings and opinions at the same time.... they aren't mutually exclusive... for example: - Praise Martin for having a successful season at Championship level - Be critical of some aspects of that season, despite the success - Having a superb day out at Wembley - Predict pre-season that we're likely to go straight back down again - Not foresee that we would go back down without a fight - Criticise Martin for his stubborness and/or inability to adapt to the challenges of the Premier League - Dislike a manager's character, despite getting us promoted and giving us a memorable day at Wembley In other words, there's nothing "bizarre" or contradictory about disliking Martin and enjoying last season...

I suspect he was talking in comparison to the teams around us that didn't go on a miracle unbeaten run... but you probably knew that....

Every time the 'Defend Martin no matter what' brigade trot out the "yeah, but the unbeaten run, innit" shibboleth a small furry mammal cops it in the Trousers household