VectisSaint

We are not closer to 7th than a relegation place, it is now the same in points and we are 1 position closer to relegation zone. You don't think 7 defeats in 9 games is a slump already?

Really don't think Manu will be trying to sign Mane this month. They are after much bigger targets than an out of form, low scoring, ill-disciplined lower mid table player now. Mane wouldn't get near their team if they get Neymar and/or Bale as is being touted. Even thug features has managed to score a goal again.

Actually the article doesn't state that there is no option, only that hey believe there is no get out clause, in other words they have no idea. Clubs can always cancel a loan, but Saints would have to agree if there is no clause, but unless we are going to buy him ourselves (highly unlikely I hope) then we aren't going to stand in the way are we, we already know what its like having players who don't want to be here, don't need another one. Note that Boscombe also interested now.

Does 2 people constitute a party? You and Chief Helmet will enjoy yourselves though.

Jonjo O'Neill is a top race horse trainer (not as top as Mick of course) and formerly jockey.

No, weird attitude. You want us to be losers? Not much of a supporter/fan.

But posters will still be saying, "look he's only 26, he will improve, too early to judge him yet".

Linked with Celtic.

Actually if the season long loan is cancelled by Rangers because they sell him then I guess we would be compensated for the portion of the season left, that's not really getting anything back, but at least would cut our losses. Don't think its made up agent rowlocks either, hard to believe I know but some people still think he is a decent CB despite what he has shown for us. The Sunderland connection is supposedly not a rumour, they have made an approach to Rangers.

If you want to trust Wiki, then just look for the References (source citations) for any stated fact. For this one its [44] which takes you to the BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34110297 Unfortunately the BBC does not cite their source, unlike Wiki.

Think its pretty well nailed on that Caulker will be gone very soon, most likely to Palace on a permanent. That's probably why he wasn't in the squad on Saturday. We don't have any say in the matter, Rangers are looking to sell and there is allegedly interest from a few teams.

Gary Monk, nice bloke, former Saints, but really not the type of manager we need. His coaching abilities are very questionable, hence why Swansea were trying to get people in to back him up. If we are looking for a new manager, someone with great coaching credentials and the ability to long term improve players is essential for the way we operate. Monk is not that man and would be totally unsuited. Moyes isn't a bad shout if we can't get Guardiola.

Our record without him in the League so far this season in P2 W2 F4 A0 Pts 6. We also beat MK Dons 6-0 without him. Maybe it will be a good thing. The only blot is the Midjyttland game.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/crystal-palace/12080462/Crystal-Palace-set-to-bid-for-Swansea-Citys-Jonjo-Shelvey.html

Steve, the meeting was at 1pm, 2 hours before kick-off. Ronald says this in an interview. It has to be just a short meeting to go over tactics again before they travel to the ground, the team would have already been selected (again Ronald said the team was already selected). How can you run such a meeting when one of the players isn't there because he doesn't have respect for his team mates or the manager? I don't really agree with how Ronald deals with this however, like Ian Wright said (I think it was Wright) deal with it privately and after the match, the Norwich team must have been cock a hoop when they found out our most dangerous player was being dropped. By the way I think Mane has been poor several times this season, they really have been short of "fine" on a number of occasions.

Déjà vu?

Hopefully Fraser was walking slowly so that JWP could keep up

OK, see what you mean, not really cup-tied, but I think you are right that he would then be prevented from playing for another team. I would think that based on the wording of the news item on the OS the Club may have already decided that he is not going out on loan again this season, as they have said he is available for the Palace game.

He's been back with us for about 3 weeks now, I guess Ronald has a decent idea of his capabilities. He also played him in the summer, pre-season, at CB (played 3 times). Bit different playing RB (or LB) and CB, as Yoshida demonstrates regularly. He almost always played CB for Swindon last season, though more often than not they played 3 at the back. He was originally a RB, and can also play LB or as a defensive mid.

Ralph reading the riot act He gave them a motivational speech the day before the game. I'd need a beer or six as well if I had to listen to one of those

I think people are just putting Stephens in because they see he is back with us and the OS says he is available for Palace. He is not generally a RB anyway, usually plays CB or midfield. But I don't think being cup-tied would be an issue, if he were to be loaned again it would be to a Championship or L1 club, and only a few of those would be still in after the 3rd round. Being cup-tied is really only an issue if loaning to a club at same or higher level. I don't think he'll start. I would go: Forster (seems like the ideal game to bring him back, he was clearly pretty close to being ready last week)? Cedric, Fonte, VvD, Bertrand Clasie, Romeu Ramirez, Davis, Tadic Long Subs: Stek, Targett, Martina, Stephens, JWP, Seager, Reed (assuming Juanmi is going/gone)

Continue to bury your head in the sand and pretend that we are better than teams below us, even though the evidence is clear for nayone to see that it is not true Losing by an odd goal is still losing and earns zero points. We have only played well once since we played Bournemouth, and even then they completely outplayed us in the 2nd half. The thing you don't seem to take into account is that we have regressed and at the same time other teams have improved or started to improve. You are of course welcome to your view. Still I guess you might be worried now that SOG has agreed with you and called your response "post of the day". Given his predilection to be contrary to everything anyone posts it is a ringing endorsement

It was stupid because they already had the players in place and it was reasonably clear that he was not needed, i.e. they already had alternatives in his position. I know you enjoy just being contrary for the sake of it, but sometimes things are done by the Club that really are not very clever, and their policy with loans is sometimes a bit questionable (whatever the policy is these days, given that last year Uncle Les stated categorically we do not do loans because its better for the young players to train with the Club).

No. Though it was based on him being a Southampton player rather than his performances at Boro. Trouble was that he was sent off in that game :-) Has played a few time at various England youth levels. His 41 games for Swindon the previous season were much more positive in terms of his development. He would have been better being with them again this season than being sat on the bench at Boro.

Unless their behaviour is at least in part due to the way the manager is "managing" the team of course.