VectisSaint

Who has said he was not good enough for Boro? He wasn't played because they have permanent players in his position already, and have not had injuries or suspensions to give him a chance. It was a stupid loan, to a club that really did not need a loan player. He has been given the chance in the League Cup and done very well. He is certainly good enough to cover for Caulker leaving (which seems likely) until Florin is fit again (whenever that might be). It is easy to argue that he was better than Caulker in the first place, but our manager is reluctant to use youth this season.

Well, as you ask, yes it is, at least to a large extent. That's why he is the manager of the team. He could easily have avoided the Wanyama issue by taking him off when he got the yellow, which would be a fairly usual thing to do if you see that your player is being rather reckless. Koeman also didn't have to take the action he did against Mane, he could have used his judgement and dealt with it in a different way without affecting the match.

LOL. None of the teams below us are as bad as us, are you serious? Chelsea for example. Norwich, didn't they beat us? Bournemouth, are they really worse than us now? That just leaves Newcastle and Swansea (forget Sunderland and Villa). Can they get 7 or 5 points more than us in the remainder of the season. Well, yes on current form they probably can. Will they? Don't know, but unless we make some serious changes very soon then the odds are that they may be less bad than us.

Hadn't realised he got a 2 game ban. Apparently its 2 games because it was his second dismissal of the season. We should not be looking to sell. He is still a high class player, just needs to get his head sorted. Don't believe Arsenal or Spurs will pursue him anyway, at least not in January. Can't see anyone else coming in for him either. The Club need to do what they are paid to do and get him back into shape, mentally.

Given he made only 4 appearances for Boro (3 in the League Cup), he might as well sit on our bench as theirs. Badly planned loan move, wasted half a season of development/experience for the lad.

He's on his way out because he isn't getting enough playing time, allegedly. It seems like its his call, not the Club's. But clearly Ronald does not think he is good enough, otherwise he would have got more games. Frankly, from what I've seen its no great loss, I'm sure we would do better giving Seager more opportunities (or even Isgrove).

Hardly news. He has been back at the Club since before Christmas, appearing in all the training videos, but needed to wait until the transfer window to be allowed to play for us again.

Yes but presumably Juanmi didn't travel, and therefore him playing was not an option. The Mane fiasco happened in Norwich (assume at the hotel/team base), not at Southampton. In my view in the circumstances it would have been better to play Seager (or even Ramirez) rather than JWP.

Juanmi and Caulker left out, both rumoured to be leaving.

He wasn't 2 hours late for a meeting. If that's what the Torygraph actually wrote then they are more stupid than I thought. He was late for the team meeting that started 2 hours before kick-off. Watch the interview with Ronald, rather than rely on rubbish reporting in the Torygraph.

No, he was late for the meeting 2 hours before kick off, not 2 hours late. How long do you think these meetings last

Which ones would that be?

Think 0-2 points means it would be more of a sinkhole.

Scotland, the well known Scandinavian country (I know he was loaned to Copenhagen but he joined us from Celtic).

Would be surprised if Caulker is involved in any way. Either he will be gone or will not be selected to avoid him being cup-tied. Of course he may be involved if he goes to Palace as is being touted. I really don't see why you would play Yoshida instead of VvD (not a Yoshida hater, he is good at CB, we need consistency in the back line).

Sounds like one for the future, not for now.

Its a ****ing big bump Ron says we're in trouble, that's good enough for me.

Players have openly said they have, so I think its safe to assume they have. Less intensity, much more ball work rather than fitness work pre-season. Maybe not specifically from last season, but since Ron took over.

Yes, guess you are right, if you take out all of the "Koeman players" and those not in the squad yesterday. But otherwise the Club Captain, the Team Captain and the Team Vice-Captain plus Bertie. Doubt they are planning a coup, more like what they are going to do about the waywards. Either that or it was Kelv's retirement party.

Caulker will be gone before the end of January, probably to Palace on a permanent. Note that he was not on the bench yesterday.

How many times has he actually had cramp?

Pretty smart getting back from Norwich already and out to a pub in Eling, surely they would still be sitting at the lights in Southampton City Centre wouldn't they? Bertie being there would be a bit odd, hardly a senior player, though interesting that none of Koeman's players were involved.

Up shît creek, but we still have a paddle somewhere in the boat, if only we can find it.

The meeting was today at Norwich according to Ronald, two hours before kick off. Its really difficult to see any reason why he was late, he was already at the team hotel or training base or whatever. I think they travelled yesterday, two hours before the match he wasn't still on the M27 or in Southampton.

This is so clearly a Koeman (Ronald and Erwin) team as its possible to be. Pelle, Tadic, Clasie, Martina, VvD, Stek. All clearly Koeman players, that's over half a team. Juanmi and Cedric, maybe not. Of course the mythical Black Box may have had some of these players in its sights, but the team has RK written all over it (as it should be).