VectisSaint

Goes with the one we used to have of Jonathan Forte.

It will soon be like the Terracotta Army outside the stadium with all the proposed statues. But I would add Big Ron to the list, probably more worthy than any of the others mentioned (who are all still alive anyway, don't agree with statues of living people)

You mean this? https://1cantoris.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/scan02434.jpg You don't feel it's a bit over the top?

My God, it's dog eat dog out there.

0-1 Sunderland, terrible defending by Caulker from a corner

Gazza, Mugabi, Debayo, Gape, McCarthy, Caulker, McQueen, Little, Seager, Hesketh, Sims Subs Isted, Isgrove, Jones, Olomola, Cook According to Twitter

Lawro not so stupid after all

JWP and Steven Davis don't get many opportunities to replicate this in the U21s.

Best squad for sure. Might not be best starting XI quite yet. Only problem is goalkeeper, but then the position has been poorly covered for years, its no worse now, you could argue with a decent loanee and an injured England international that is stronger than before, but in truth with FF out long term, we are in the **** if The Stek gets injured.

"Its" It is not a possessive pronoun.

What a load of tosh, you really are a muppet. Accusing others of not watching the game when it is quite clear it was you who either didn't watch it or didn't appreciate what was happening. I am quite a critic of JWP but he actually played very well on Saturday (at least for 60-odd minutes) doing all of the things you say he didn't do, good passes, a great corner, harrying, tackling (yes I found it hard to believe) and showing a lot of desire and energy, he does seem to have found a yard of pace that was previously missing. Played together well with Davis again, who was one of the best players on the park, with lots of energy, pin-point passes (and some that were a hair's breadth away from being so). It was so noticeable that soon after he was subbed off when we were 3-0 up that the energy levels dropped and we resorted to the same awful play that we exhibited for 50 minutes against Man U (strangely coinciding with the time before Davis was subbed on). OK, so he cannot score for toffee at the moment, just like JWP, but we have plenty of others who can, and who do largely due to the work that these two are putting in. JWP has improved immeasurably since playing a deeper role, as he did with Romeu when Vic threw his toys out of his pram. Criticism where its due, but try not slagging people off who actually take notice of what has happened in a game instead of spewing rubbish based on your preconceived misconceptions.

Sent off more times than Vic.

Very funny. Played more than half of the match yesterday avoiding making tackles because he stepped over the line too often early on and got booked. Romeu should grow his hair a bit so that he does not look like a thug, he gets booked before he hardly makes a tackle, most of his bookings (though not the one yesterday) have so far not been warranted - he is a marked man already though which is a concern.

That's the trouble with making an assessment based purely on the score. It was a debacle for 50 minutes (we were great for 35 minutes at the start), one of the most shockingly awful displays by Saints I have seen in nearly 50 years. Man U were awful and we let them score 3 goals from 3 on-target shots.

Oh dear

Looked fine in the training gallery. Thought he was left out of Wednesday squad due to some "off the pitch" incident, know nothing about it but it was mentioned somewhere on here. As long as Koeman doesn't have a brain fart again and play Yoshida instead of Cedric, then can't seem Caulker being needed for Saturday anyway.

One of those assisty things by Davis.

Subs: K. Davis (GK), Yoshida, Tadić, Wanyama, Ward-Prowse, Bertrand, Ramírez.

Sue, we were worse than absolutely abysmal for about 50 minutes. The fact we gifted them one only goes to emphasise the fact. ManU were also absolutely abysmal and they showed nothing to the contrary, their 45 pass goal (or whatever it was) was only due to the fact that our players had completely switched off, and despite this it took Man U 45 passes to get the goal. As I feared with our last 5-10 minutes, it has allowed us to gloss over what was a truly appalling performance. Don't get me wrong we were very good until we took the lead, that is what makes it so galling that we could then descend to the level we did.

Reported that we got nearly all back actually.

He seemed very nervous, and lacking in confidence. Looked very slow, and the cramp would suggest his fitness is not all that it could be, last player we had the suffered cramp regularly was Luke Shaw. Was surprised how often Fonte was having to cover for him especially in the first half. I'm sure he will be OK but needs more time, though I don't for one minute think it was because Man U were a step up on SPL, they should have been one of his easiest games of the season they were so bad.

He doesn't. He also generally only has issues when he is played out of position, especially at RB (rather than LB). In any case, if you think Yoshida's howler on Sunday cost us the game then you are very much mistaken, it just compounded what was an appalling performance by the whole team including Ronald.

...a not very good Reading side who were top of the league before the game...

Decided it was best to wait before posting, anger at that performace yesterday has subsided a bit. First time in nearly 50 years that I seriously considered leaving before the end (at 80 minutes-ish), but I stayed. We played well for about 30 minutes, tactics were fine and we should have been at least 2 up. United were awful, and had nothing in an attacking sense and defence was very shaky, Tadic and Pelle, and to some extent Mane were giving themthe complete run around and JWP was being quite creative. Shocked at Koeman playing Yoshi as RB with our fit (presumably) specialist RB sat on the bench, but to be fair there was nothing wrong. Then, for some reason the team as a whole, presumably on instruction for the bench decided we need to sit back. It was suicidal even against an ineefective opposition, eventually as we dropped deeper and deeper (and not just the defence but the whole team) the inevitable goal came. That should have provoked a reaction but it didn't, it was clear then that the players had given up, completely. 25 minutes of inviting United on, giving them the ball, they must have thought it was Christmas the gifts we were giving them. Yoshida's suicidal mistake completely knocked any stuffing remnants from out of the players. Davis came on to replace Romeu and at least tried to pick the pace up, but there were 10 others on the pitch that had already decided they could not be bothered. Ronald should have brought on fresh attacking player at the same time or soon after. Third goal came, and still no fight, it was embarrassing to see a bunch of players who had no fight, total disinterest. Disgusted with Pelle trying to get himself subbed off when we brought Long on, really never want to see one of our players ever do that again. OK, we picked it up with 5 minutes or so to go, which realy made matters worse because we showed that they were easy meat, great goal from Pelle - clearly there was nothing wrong with him, and all of a sudden we could have equalised, which would have been a travesty for what was one of our worst performances ever (and that's based on 49 years of support). The last few minutes probably means that we will gloss over the inept display that preceded it. Not going to blame nay individuals, the whole starting XI together with Ronald are responsible. Clearly some individual mistakes cost us goals, but loads of others went unpunished by a feeble Man United - 3 shots on target. Ronald has to get this sorted out, his tactics and team selections this season have been very odd, though his initial tactics yesterday were working well until the switch. ****ed off with the players who capitulated and gave up, lack of fight was shocking. Special mention yesterday for Man U's 12th man, Clottenburg. What a crap referee he has become. Apparently Rooney was playing yesterday, the only time I noticed him was in Clottenburg's ear. People are complaining about Mike Dean's (?) performance against Arsenal on Saturday, but the FA really need to look at Clot as well. Was looking forward to seeing Morgan play, but he too was anonymous apart from two bad tackles at least one of which warranted a yellow. All the ManU supporters singing about Martial but truth is he was presented with effectively an open goal for the second, and did nothing apart from net 2 easy goals. De Gea two world class saves shows why they wanted to keep hold of him, whether he could have done anything about the three we conceded is of course open to speculation, but I doubt it. Hope there is not too much cracking papering over, because serious questions need to be asked and answered after that, not least of the manager.

Exactly why Kenilworthy said two full seasons...