VectisSaint

Doubt that, more likely not able to risk DC 3 times in 8 days. DC was by far the better of the two on Saturday (and just about every other time IMHO). Not convinced by LB at all I'm afraid, whereas DC is class. So where has this lad Garrod suddenly appeared from, thought Doble was #4 striker. Presumably Spiderman and Jaidi are nursing knocks. Hope that Punch can do better tonight, he was appalling on Saturday so wouln't be too difficult.

He wouldn't be far wrong in your case would he, certainly on the whinging front. I'll let others confirm or otherwise if you are a tossar (sp) or not.

Oh FFS Alps, that was a joke (you do know what a joke is I assume) based on the continual whinging about NC by certain people on this message board. I am very supportive of NC if you must know. Perhaps I should have added a smiley, but prefer not to bring my posts down to the kiddy level too often. In any case why should the Club not be held to account for providing something that is not what is advertised? After all you chide them often enough for not providing football which they advertise (another joke). If you offer to provide a copy of the matchday programme online and do not mention any caveats in your terms and conditions then your customers are entitled to expect what it says on the tin. How does a customer know that the missing pages are only adverts, unless of course said customer also buys the printed version? It is not even particularly obvious until the page numbers are checked. I actually was interested to see the player sponsors, a page specifically noted in the Contents List, and this page was missing. Not a full page advert. Likewise the Team Lists. It seems anyway that the Club may have actually learned something from the initial launch if indeed they are now including "blank" pages where adverts used to be, seems like a reasonable solution to me.

yes they've responded, but not sure why I should share any information with ****s like you. I don't give a feck about the adverts, but if a service is offered providing copies of thr matchday programme thats what should be provided. Its not just adverts anyway, it is also the Player Sponsor and Team List pages. So now, any more sarky little comments?

You really should get out more, perhaps they don't let you out at weekends though

Don't really care whether I see the adverts or not, but maybe the advertisers would not be too pleased that the money that they have spent is not reaching the target audience. Was more annoyed about the player sponsors page and in particular the list of players which is usually on the back page. Still think that if you are sold a product that removing pages willy-nilly is silly

I subscribed like a mug to the online programme scheme, and feel a bit cheated. There are 11 pages missing from the programme that is available online/to download. 11 out of 52!! This includes the list of players, which according to the Contents List is on page 52. The missing pages were 1, 10, 12, 18, 22, 28, 29, 40, 41, 51 & 52. I assume the paper copy for sale at the ground yesterday included these pages, can someone confirm. Have contacted the Club about this, but received no reply, not even acknowledgement. So if you are thinking about subscribing maybe think again. Cortese out !!

Antonio came on as a second half sub as Reading lost. Scott McDonald scored for WGS but Middlesbro still lost. Michael Poke was unused sub for Brighton who won, Pericard was unused sub for Swindon. Surman played for Norwich who lost on Friday of course. Apart from Fitz Hall, about the only other successful Saint yesterday was Scott Bevan who kept another clean sheet for Torquay (thats 8 in a row, though most were by Poke last season) and they now sit top of League 2. Mustn't forget though that many former Saints were not in competitive action yesterday because they are in the Prem - Walcott, Crouch, Beattie, Fuller, Higgy, Bale and not forgetting Brett Ormerod.

Sounded like they were hanging on desparately in the end as Leicester pulled back from 3 down. Possibly due to Burley's continued inability to train and condition players. Its not just Alps that knew that Burley was a **** poor manager, briefly made to look half decent by the excellent Snodin.

We are 9 points better off than at the same stage last year. About the best I can come up with.

Completely out played by Lee Molyneux, he certainly did not look fine, he looked unfit and devoid of ideas.

Rubbish. For the goal he was running towards the ball, and could not turn as quickly as the Argyle player who was facing the other way. Clearly you do not appreciate that the goal was the result of bad defending by I think Fonte and Butters (could have been Jaidi). Did nothing else wrong and was very effective first half with Dickson, I think I tend to agree with the Sky pundits who were saying similar. Pardew took him off to make space for Lallana knowing Dickson could drop back. Pity Pardew did not replace Punch with Chamberlain at the same time.

Apart from being partly at fault for the goal, Harding did nothing wrong, indeed he was probably best player in the 1st half. Goal was not really his fault, it was the failure to deal with the header in the first place. Hammond was poor, did not drive on in MF and his headers were misplaced (though credit for getting into good positions). Did Hammond shoot? Don't recall if he did, Spiderman had couple of shots, as did Lallana, must have missed Hammond shooting. Problem today was Puncheon down the right, we were good down the left.

Yep, with a new manager, is that what you are wishing for? I'm certainly not. Thought Punch was very poor today, clearly wasn't 100% fit. Barnard also was poor, his positioning and lack of understanding about what DC was trying to do was obvious. I can see based on that performance why AP did not play him as much as we all expected when he arrived last season. Clearly we need another striker, primarily as backup to RL, but you can't hope to go a season with 3 strikers, one of whom has a bad injury record.. We also need some pace out wide and competition in CM, apart from that we will be up there come next May.

Has anyone else actually downloaded the Plymouth programme? After a bit more time reading it this morning I noticed that there are several missing pages, pages 1, 10, 12, 18, 22, 28, 29, 40, 41, 51 & 52 to be precise. If a programme is being sold online then surely it should be the same as the one being sold on paper. I wonder if this is just a mistake with the initial launch or whether it is deliberate to not provide some of the programme in advamce. This might explain why there is no list of players, also the player sponsorship details are missing, what else? Can someone else confirm.

the quality of the proff reading is very poor, typos galore LOL, serves me right I suppose. Fact remains though.

Signed up, Plymouth programme has some interesting reading, history etc. No list of players, seems odd, no message from the Chairman, thought he would write something for first game. Have to say without meaning to be picky, the quality of the proff reading is very poor, typos galore, like something out of the Grauniad.

Don't think many will argue that we need another striker in the same mould as Rickie as back up. Most people have been saying this for weeks. Our #4 striker is Ryan Doble !!! Only other option seems to be Butterfield. AP acknowledges this as well, I'm sure he is working hard to bring someone else in over the next 2-3 weeks. Think its a bit unkind to refer to RL as the missing link though :-)

Doubt it, they are likely to wait until end August when they can take him on a free.

Nice touch that when you go to the link you are on the Championship page, not League One Gave me a chance to have a little chuckle at the state of play down the other end of the M27. I don't often support HMRC (except financially) but I think I will make an exception.

I really wonder sometimes if some posters on here actually support Saints or not

Is it? Unless you are saying that the loss of James and Thomas have seriously weakened us then this argument simply does not wash. We have signed Dickson, Richardson and Butterfield, we lost Antonio, Papa and Semi. I agree that the strength may have shifted slightly, we are currently a bit weaker in MF (though the availability of Chamberlain and a fit Holmes goes some way, but not completely I agree, to replacing Antonio). I still think we need a MF and a striker, but we are no weaker than the team that finished last season.

I wonder if even if SFC had ordered more any more could have been supplied. It seems from Phil's post earlier that Umbro had no more material in stock. Perhaps they ordered the raw material based on our order, but perhaps also that was all the raw material available at the time, and we said "so how many can you supply"? Who knows. Fact is that however anyone wants to run down the club on this matter, this is a SUCCESS STORY. Of course Alps can answer your question with any number greater than the current sales and be smug in the knowledge that we would have been closer to the necessary target, thats why foresight is a wonderful gift. If only Alps and the other serial moaners had such a gift who knows where we would be now (probably in the ****). Still think the Club missed a trick with the away shirt, it should also have had a sash in my opinion. Like many others I like the kit because it is not so obviously a footy kit, I will be quite happy if we go back to stripes next season but wouldn't be upset if we keep the sash, change to halves, change to quarters, go to hoops (slimming look for us perkers) or whatever, as long as the colours are basically red and white. If we can avoid terrible sponsor logos then that would be fantastic (remember all the complaints about the FlyBe and FP logos and how they were cheap and tacky and peeled off etc).

Seems odd that this was never mentioned again, and no-one seems to have gone to the game or anything. Perhaps Nicola decided he didn't like the ways the Vics were run and decided the team should not attend

Cortese criticses way FL is run. Well good for him, its a shambles as we all know, even if Mawhinney has now gone. About time some of the people that run it were shown up to be the idiots that they are. Good to know that we have a Chairman who can see them for the bunch of idiots that they are. That said don't believe the rumour for one minute, total ******, if only it were actually true.