VectisSaint

I really think we must avoid using initials for Ricky, I nearly crapped myself when I read that :confused:

Quite pathetic that we still have neanderthals on this thread arguing that such behaviour is acceptable. Try reading the update about Big Ron, puts this pathetic stuff into some perspective.

Tim, my condolences to Ron, a true Saints legend and an inspiration for me when I was a nipper at The Dell. Would love to see Big Ron at SMS one day.

Disagree about Poke. Much more likely to be a long term replacement for Davis than Bart, and now has considerably more 1st team experience than Bart as well, albeit at a lower level. Poke is actually a very good keeper, and some more experience playing in L2 will be very useful.

Just wondering if it is some kind of record for a club to have 3 ex-Saints managers on their list of 3 managers favourite to take the job (and none of them the current manager) - WGS, NP and Souness. No mention in the BBC article that any of the 3 are ex-Saints. God, we're good at supplying the League with experienced managers http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/middlesbrough/8318553.stm

Fabrice Fernandes now has a new career generating electricty in a wind farm in France Actually he is surprisingly listed as a former professional footballer, having been released by Dinamo Bucharest, currently on the books of Le Havre but has not yet made an appearance. For a player who has not even reached his 30th birthday yet his descent down the slippery slope since his days under WGS are quite spectacular.

Not at all. I think in the past when we were strapped for cash it was important, but its just a number. When we get just over 20000, someone will say, Wanted 1000 fans so we can get over 21000. Don't get me wrong I prefer it when the ground is full or nearly so, but wanting an extra 1000 fans seems a bit odd to me. What we actually need is about another 13000 so the ground is really rocking. Anyway we could easily get another 1000 by giving tickets to kids, or kids for a quid promotions, but quite honestly while I want more kids to come to games, it does bugger all to make the atmosphere better having a load of little nippers running round knowing next to nothing about what is going on with their Manure, Arse, Chelski or Scouse shirts on under their coats If we continue to be successful the crowds will return, I would think 24/25k would be achievable in this division if we are winning regularly or at least playing good exciting football.

1987.

Actually Pop Larkin was right... Saints off the bottom, Pompey lose, Torquay out of the bottom 2, now all that is needed is a good grid position for JB and Saturday will be good...

Not to mention runners-up in the League Cup to a certain Mr Clough

A Brighton goal now would be nice

Connolly scores, bugger thats my Predictioin screwed

Hoping it stays as is cos I still have it as 2-1 to us

Yep, we know we heard it on SaintsPlayer

A licence fee and a fee to listen to it on the interweb

Agreed, it feels like a con to me, its bad enough only really getting Solent commentary, but having to put up with listening to stuff about the Skates, and even the Cherries when it is supposed to be exclsuive Saints really leaves a bad taste, but little alternative for those of us outside the Solent area. Then to have to listen to Merrington as well, maybe I won't renew (then again I'm a sucker so I probably will).

Just what I said above..

I'm listening to exclsuive Saints on Saints Player, why are they talking about Pompey and Saggychops. ****es me off.

Is this the actual line-up? Nothing on the OS, was beginning to question whether we had a game today. Understood Mellis was away with the u20s.

There is only one edition, 1980 as far as I can tell. Hence factually correct. I agree his agent is maybe using a little licence, thats what agents do, and why they are often the scum of the earth. I guess Lowe's agent, if he had one, would suggest he was a successful business man, whereas we all know nothing could be further from the truth. Similarly Anthony Pulis#s agent probably suggests he is a professioinal footballer. Do you honestly think everything that Max Clifford says is whiter than white. Of course not, but of course this is not about truth this is about your personal vendetta against Lawrie Mac. By the way 1945-1960 is 15 years, not 25. I don't know if you were around at that time, but quite frankly there was hardly any such thing as a manager, most teams were run by a Secretary or a Committee, and the manager was primarily a trainer. The era of well known managers did not really start until the 1960s. Perhaps you could try listing successful Managers of the era 1945-1960 (without recourse to a reference book or the interweb).

Quite true, but of course factually correct as anyone who would take 5 minutes to research would confirm. In 1980 Lawrie was listed in the Top 20 Most Successful managers in England. The book has never been republished as far as I can ascertain. Unfortunately PR Companies do not always publish the full facts, but there is nothing incorrect in what they have written. They are a PR company and wish to promote their clients in the best way possible. As long as they do not lie there is nothing wrong with that, Max Clifford does it all the time. May not be completely ethical but to slag off Lawrie because of this is patently ridiculous. In 1980 he was for sure one of the Top 20 successful managers, probably actually more likely Top 10 or even Top 5. All the arguments on this thread about Benitez or Wenger or Joe Bloggs being better managers were completely irrelevant, because they were not even known in 1980. Of course our resident troll did not think to look into this before he carried on his ridiculous personal anti-McMenemy crusade. As you say who cares really, it just gets people's backs up when the troll is allowed to carry on with these personal insults about one of the most respected characters in the history of our Club, when others who spouted as much personally vindictive stuff as the troll are banned. He is entitled to his opinion, but this is not just opinion it is vindictive, untrue stuff based on his worship of Lowe.

Just like it seems to have been missed by everyone that the book was published in 1980. Perhaps just coincidentally at the same time as Lawrie had signed the European Footballer of the Year, Keegan, and just after he had got us promoted, been runners up in the League Cup and soon after we won the FA Cuo while in the 2nd Division. No-one is seriously trying to say that Lawrie is one of the Top 20 managers of all time in England. But the Troll of course wants to carry on his perverse hatred of someone who is a major player in the history of Southampton FC.

As the Guinness Book of Soccer Facts was published in 1980, Lawrie would easily qualify. If it was published today, I suspect he wouldn't make the Top 100. Thats not to say that along with Ted, Lawrie wasn't the greatest thing (other than some players) ever to happen to Saints. It takes a particularly nasty type of so-called troll supporter to try to deny what anyone who has any feeling for the Club well knows. The Troll should just get over himself and go and live in the Cotswolds with the Dark Lord, his super hero.

I think Doddsy has more sense than that, anyway he is at Lincoln

Good luck to him, maybe come to Saints for a couple of loans if needed.