VectisSaint

I'll be amazed if we even get 9 points from 14 with Wotte The **** in charge...

If the dumb****er really believes this then why did he pick him in the first place? Wotte is the point of replacing JP with a total asshole? The guy is a fecking joke, at least JP was likeable, whereas this **** is just plain stupid.

Please no Hermans Hermits songs, please...

Amongst the other reasons would be the moon being made of blue cheese I suppose. How on earth (or on the moon) can anyone rationally come to such a conclusion?

Tom Dunford. Comes from Wootton on the Isle of Wight, came through the ranks at Cowes. Has just signed a 2 year contract. There was a piece about him in the IW County Press last week: http://www.iwcp.co.uk/news/tom-signs-for-saints-24469.aspx Hope he does well, being from my home village

If as alleged anyone had a pop at Saga then that is well out of order, we should be supporting the guy who is our best (only) hope of getting out of the more. For those who had a pop at McG and BWP I do not have this sense of outrage. By the way someone above asked whether manure players regularly go out on the lash. I suspect you will find they do, Mr Rooney is hardly a paragon ov virtue. It is also clear that Liverpool players also are not complete Saints, ask mr gerrard about his nights out, whether on the lash or not, and whether behaving in such a way as to potentially impact his profession is really a good idea. the only difference with both these examples are that these 2 teams are top of the Prem, if we were top of the CCC would we have these issues, probably not. Sadly the idea that footballers are professional athletes and should avoid alcohol/tobacco/late nights etc is so far from reality as to be laughable, people in other sports have accepted that this sacrifice needs to be made, but generally footy players have yet to wake up to this need. Still I agree it must be tough for young kids when they have no role model, can't say I was a saint when I was their age either, but then I was also no athlete

AFAIK there are no requirements for particular coaching certificates in the Fotball League, that is or at least was a Premier League only rule. It would only become a problem when Tiss got us promoted

I bet Lowe would crap himself, if it happened. This would add even more dislike of Lowe if the man he dismissed then saved our bitter rivals from the relagation we all hope they will suffer.

Think Ferguson is a bit old to be called the hottest young managerial prospect in England. As Wales is not in England Martinez is also not a candidate.

Thanks Duncan, I'll let the person know that there may be a possibility. She was not too precise with the dates. Cheers

Suppose there's no chance Barclays will wipe off our debt by setting it against their obscene profit for the last financial year. Would be a drop in the Solent.

Bit like Saints then Saw the Specials at Chippenham Olympiad in 2005 (concert for the Tsunami), not sure they would draw more than a few hundred (not a Specials fan, but enjoyed the night). Same night tickets for Chelski v Saints raised £3000 in a charity auction, those were the days Maybe we could get Coldplay to perform for free, I'm sure Will Champion would be up for it.

Good idea, have done so.

I got a message on a mailing list I am on (not football related) asking if anyone knew about a young footballer dying on the pitch during a Southampton match? The date would be sometime in the period between the wars - I think. The name could be Dyer, Millward or Nicklin surname. I assume the person asking is sure it was a Saints player (i.e. not opposition). I thought I'd try and help this person solve this puzzle. Does nayone here (perhaps amongst the more long in the tooth supporters like me) have any recollection of such an event? Maybe Fitzhugh Fella might know. I can see all the jokes now about players dying on the pitch every week etc etc, especially with the name Dyer mentioned but this is a serious request for info.

+1 We are already a laughing stock, we don't need Holloway the Clown to make things even worse. I want Wotte out, but Holloway would be too much for me to stomach. There are many, much better options out there champing at the bit for a job like Saints even with a lunatic chairman (or two). Should add, what has he ever achieved. I read someone on here slagging off Sturrock earlier, the man with 4 promotions (nearly 5) to his name in the lower leagues. Holloway has only ever achieved promotion once (ironically as runners up to Argyle that Sturrock had guided almost to the championship) and been relegated twice. Even Lowe has not achieved that ambitio just yet. Holloway: Clown and failure.

Why did you leave out Reading? They have succeeded in this division twice, and hardly fit the description above. Not saying I disagree, but there is more than one way to skin a cat. But playing lightweight tippy tappy football directed by a totally inexperienced 3rd rate coach (or 4th rate if you include JP) is not going to give puss to much to worry about.

Bad appointment at Saints, not suited for the Prem or prima donna players. But good manager at CCC/League 1/League 2 level as he has proven time and again. 4 promotions with 4 different clubs, plus an almost promotion with Argyle when we nicked him, proves what a good manager he is at the appropriate level. So he is having a poor season at Argyle this season, every manager will have a spell when they are less effective than they have been before (after all George Burley was allegedly once a good manager before he joined us). There are few managers in the Football League that boast a success rate equal to Luggy.

Sorry Jonny, but if you think 12 points will keep us up, then you will hve a shock. 22 points will get us to 50. Last season Leicester got 52 points and went down. I think 50 will be enough this season, but 22 points from 15 games given our form so far is a stretch goal I'm afraid.

and Agents Fees. For loans there are sometimes loan fees as well. HTH

Depends how accurate you are with your kicking, can you hit a small target?

3 seasons at Walsall, including promotion from Third Division to Second Division and a win percentage of over 45%. Two seasons assisiting Lawrie Mac when he was Northern Ireland manager. Agreed, fly-by-night, unsuccessful manager

But he wasn't relatively successful either. 6th place acieved thanks to a great degree to the input of Glyn Snodin... For wanting to hound out GB, Alps was absolutely spot on.

Its not illegal. It may be against Football League or FA Rules but that doesn't make it illegal. The Old Bill wouldn't give a toss if someone owned 2 football clubs, but Lord Mawhinney might. However, lets say Wolves are in the Premier League (FA) and Saints (being optimistic) are in the CCC (FL) I'm not 100% sure that there are rules that prevent this, though I would suspect there are. Otherwise Manure's owners or someone could also own a feeder club like Bury.

Problem that everyone seems to ignore though is that whether or not we did oe did not have less in the bank the following year, this was due to Mike Wilde. As far as I can determine this is the same Mike Wilde who acted as king maker for Lowe to get him back into power. The Lowe suporters like to blame Wilde (and Crouch) for the mistakes after Lowe left, but conveniently forget that the same idiot is now in cahoots with Lowe. Two business failures running the plc with no idea how to run a successful footbal club is twice as bad as either one of them being in charge IMHO.

Not being harsh on Bennett at all (thanks for reminding me of his name), re-read my post and you will see that I was saying he was good after looking absolute crap in his first 2 games. Like you I may have preferred to have Bennett back, but that isn't happening, and never was going to. I think the rest of your post is just complete drivel. Lipstick has played at a decent level (better than bottom of CCC) and is also Hungary u21 internatinal 15 times. He has been brought in as cover because we only had 3 recognised CBs. I don't expect him to be our next Mark Wright, I actually hope he never plays, because that would mean our first choice CBs Perry and Seijs are injured or suspended. There is no inconsistency between Wotte's stamenent and Lipstick joining - he is better than what we have, because we have nothing for 4th choice CB, and to be fair he is probably better than Olly currently is (he will be good one day). Fair enough blasting Lowe and Wotte, i do it all the time, but find something valid to blast them for, there are plenty of things that fall into that category, and get off the back of a player who has come here to help out, won't be earning much money, probably won't play much