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Its only the transfer window that close end Jan, the loan window is still available, and was used successfully last season by NP to bring in Perry and Lucketti. Who is to say that Lowe does not have an alternative plan in place (Hoddle?). A contract till the end of the season for someone does not necessarily have to be that expensive, especially if couple with a bonus for avoiding relegation, and the cost would be nothing compared to the reduction in revenue that would come with relegation to Division 3. Also, you should not assume that the squad are monkeys, I strongly believe that with a manager who knows what he is doing this squad boosted by a couple of experienced loanees could keep us up.

Hence the negativity. Admire your optimism, but we have won 1 home game all season. Why do you think Jan will get his act together now, when he has had all season to do so and failed. We are doomed.

Agreed, the Dutch duo are bereft of tactical ability. But what the heck we play an exciting brand of football that will make us the envy of every club up and down the country.

Can't see how you can judge anyone as being utter ****e in a 17 minute appearance. His goal was glorious and was the reason Arry brought him on when he replaced Le Saux. Any player that can make his mark in 17 minutes as he did deserves better than being called "utter ****e". For a few brief days the man gave us hope, I would give my right arm for him or his like now.

Are you sure, if it was Ottery, wouldn't it have been the Lavvy Hilly Mobby?

Thank God someone remembered, far and away the best loan that we ever had, even if it was Saggy Chops who brought him in. He may have been inconsistent but his performance against Norwich was outstanding and made me think we had avoided relegation.

UP, I think you have his name slightly wrong, try changing round the first letters of his first and last names and I think we have our man. He would fit in perfectly with the others at the Club. The new advisor by the way, the woman in the pictures, is Madonna. Following on from our previous experiments Madge is local (although she may have moved out following her recent divorce) and is well qualified to help run a football club, just like our Chariman.

You can fire people for gross incompetence, wouldn't be difficult to prove in this case. Wouldn't cost a penny. Anyway as we all know JP is paid peanuts thats why he was soooo much a better option than NP, so it wouldn't cost much to get rid. Whatever it would cost will pale into insignificance to the cost of relegation to Division 3.

Don't mean to be pedantic and I know where Iain Dowie was born (Hertfordshire) but from a football persective, he represented Northern Ireland.

Just shows what an excellent assistant Glyn Snodin was

Does the Saints Truss still exist? Or is NI now the Saints Truss? Sadly an organisation that should have been successful has been hijacked by the usual crew and has therefore become a meaningless sideshow.

As a supporter it is far better to accept the inevitable. The inevitable will happen unless something changes (something being manager and chairman). If that happens then you can hope, if not then there is no hope. It won't make it any easier when it happens but it will stop a lot of fretting between now and May. If by some miracle JP suddenly learns about tactics and where to play players and we win some home games then nothing lost.

No, they have been presented with a picture of Rupert Lowe to inspire them and ensure they never go down the same path as us. I hear they have installed it in their outside loo.

Excellent. If the Echo have been upset more chance of them turning against Lowe more than they have so far. I expect the jobsworth steward will be looking for a new job soon (don't wish that on anyone) once Lowe finds out that he has upset the Echo.

This made me chuckle, twice (1) That people still think this is a free country. The UK has never been a free country, that is a myth. (2) That people are surprised that anyone can monitor this message board. We are all monitoring this message board, thats how message boards work. I'm sure several people at SFC and the Hampshire Constabulary take a look at this site every day.

Any type of boycott will only work if the boycotters still turn up and stay OUTSIDE of the ground. Otherwise no-one knows you're boycotting.

Don't think we really should be judging any of the players to be honest. When we have such a clueless nice but dim head coach, completely out of his depth, players will not be playing to their true potential. Thats why Spiderman is not looking as good as he did. JP has completely lost his way(if he ever had one), has lost the confidence of the players and the downward spiral will continue. They don't know what to do, have no proper leadership that young players need (especially when Perry gets subbed). I still believe that with a proper motivated English manager and one, maybe two experienced loanees that this squad could be mid-table, then you would see some of these players playing to their full potential.

Oh God, the "we are so bad no-one would want to manage us brigade" are out in full force again. Clearly there are some managers with enough sense to know that working with Lowe would not be a very good idea, that will rule out Dowie, about the only really intelligent manager around. Then we have lots of other managers who realise that there is a job going and will bite Rupert's hand off to work at Saints. We are still seen as a good club (ok we know different), but managers know that jobs only last 1-2 years usually, they are usually not very bright (Dowie excepted) and will be willing to give it a go. They have nothing to lose, we are almost certainties for relegation, if they pull off an escape they will be lauded as saviours, if we go down as expected then people will blame Lowe and JP. Come on guys, be a bit more realistic, if JP goes today (please) then there will be a dozen or more hungry managers looking for a job, all of whom could do better than the totally inept, nice but dim Jan.

You beat me to it

Anyone listening to the 3rd Half. Did I hear right that Dave was thrown out of (asked to leave) the Mick Channon suite, even though many of the people there were his guests. He is absolutely fuming about it, quite rightly. This Club under Lowe really is sinking to new depths if this is true. I am embarrassed to be associated with this Club under its current regime, a legend like David Armstrong thrown out of the corporate areas. FFS. :mad:

Football Managers are not necessarily too bright (bless them, at least in most cases), they will still jump at the chance, believe me. The only one with intelligence who probably would say no, is Iain Dowie.

People have to get out of this mindset. If JP went now (as he surely must), and Lowe advertised for a manager, there would be a dozen or more good applicants, guaranteed. Whether any of them could work with Lowe is a different matter, but football managers all believe they can do the trick and turn a team's fortunes around. The problem is not alternatives, the problem is the arrogant, tosser who is chairman of this club and who will destroy it (or at least get it relegated to Div 3).

Its difficult to imagine even Lowe could find anyone worse than JP, unless he took over himself. OK, see what you mean.

Another deluded lister. How did Crouch increase our debt between Dec 2008 and May 2009? You are confusing Crouch with Mike Wilde and his gang. They are the ones who increased our debt, not Crouch. Crouch put several measures in place to do just the opposite, including loaning out Rasiak and Skacel, putting in place the plans to close the corners, and instigating the transport changes. Unfortunately LC as Chairman running the Club is not really an option, he didn't do it before because he knows his limitations, he had the help of Lee Hoos, the only one of Wilde's bunch who had any skill as far as I can tell (after all he is now gainfully employed in a similar position at Leicester. Leon needs a man who can run a football club and sadly the person who we had for that role was forced to leave.

Equally, if 4 of our 5 opponents in our away wins this season had scored 1 more goal we would be bottom of the table with just 2 wins all season.