VectisSaint

Most people understand the concept of long term. Its just that having a concept of long term is of no use if long term does not exist. When the long term coach presides over relegation and the probably inevitable administration that will follow, the long term strategy is of no use whatsoever. In order to impelement a long term strategy you need to be absolutel sure that the people you put in charge are at least competent. There was no indication that JP met this basic criterion, sadly. Having a modicum of success in the Dutch lower leagues really does not provide a valid indicator of competency in the second tier of the best and most competitive football league set up in the world.

Surely Party Sevens never had beer in them, even when full

So he's on a low wage then LOL

Dowie, Adams, Cotterill, Tisdale - any of these could do a job for us, and unless one of the above or similar is brought in to do a job for us, anyone else mentioned above is just a waste of time with the current incumbent, dope smoking amateur.

League not looking likely for manure this season, you have to be joking. 2 games in hand and 7 points behind Liverpool, who will likely be losing their captain to a few weeks at her majesty's pleasure before the end of the season. To me Manure are clear favourites. Doesn't detract from the fact though that Fergie still intends to win the Cup, and will only rest one or two stars, probably Ronaldo and Rooney, but will still have more than enough to beat us at a canter. Luckily its only live on Sultana so not too many of the general public will see us thrashed.

Molyneux, thats the fella. But why was he training with us if it was dependent on Skacel leaving and why would Skacel go to Ipswich? They couldn't agree terms before, I don't see what has changed.

Doesn't seem like the appointment has actually been made. While I'm not upset that he is not joining us (never thought he would anyway), the really bad news is that he is joing one of our rivals for relegation. I would suggest Forest will not be relegated under Davies, and that they will now finish the season mid-table. With Donny also improving, as expected, and with Charlton having the benefit of parachute payments, I guess that makes us clear favourites for the drop, unless Lowe acts NOW and replaces JP. The chances of that look slimmer and slimmer.

What happened to the kid we were supposed to be getting on loan from Everton. Can't remember his name, but was supposed to have been training with us already. Has the deal collapsed?

Does it still exist? If so what stance did it take at the recent AGM? I assume Wilde withdrew his proxy to the Trust at some point. Had high hopes for the Trust when it was set up but it seems to have become a meaningless, or at least very low profile organisation.

Hope you've got your Santana prescription

So that will be Bolton then. Pompey will be in the CCC..

Given Robertson and Peckhart have gone, we don't actually have too many options. If it was down to me Saga would start with McGoaldrought playing behind him.

I refer you to my message to Rupert Lowe, with brass knobs on.

Comparison of Robertson with Lewis Hamlton is indeed a bit stupid. You do know that Lewis is almost 24 (4 years older than Robertson) and has been driving since the age of 6. Probably has more experience than most people in their mid-30s. If a few more kids actually spent some time driving karts under controlled conditions and experiencing the speed and car control long before they were allowed on the public roads, we probably would not have half the problems we have with young drivers today. Sadly long gone are the days when you learned car control in a farm yard or a field or on a disused airfield, nowadays kids get their licence and think they know how to drive. Anyway, take back some of what I said. I read the press report that he was driving a Merc sports car. In hindsight a CLC180 is about as like a sports car as a Ford Fiesta. It was probably a diesel as well

Guess you are a young inexperienced driver as well then. If you don't think experience behind the wheel counts, then God help anyone on the road when you are around. Kids driving Merc sports cars should not be tolerated. Now feck off and learn to drive, ****.

Be a good chap and feck off. Go play with Wilde in some far flung land or Channel island, and don't darken our doorstep again, you evil, ignorant, pompous ****. Please tak your third rate Dutch coaches with you as well, they are nice boysh but have no business working in a professional league. Thanks PS - if you could take the picture of the ruddy train and shove it up your arse before you leave that would be much appreciated. That will enable us to replace the picture of someone who actually did some good at this club.

Oh yes it is [the pantomime season has started already has it Windows?] The valuation of a company can be very significant, in terms of borrowing ability and so on. A 10% drop in value would be considered very significant in the financial markets for most companies. It may not be so significant for SLH plc, but nevertheless do not dismiss it so lightly.

Why, even Lowe has occassionally chosen a decent manager, though it may be more by luck than judgement. Let me list all the good ones he has selected: Strachan, hmmm Maybe you're right [Actually I would have had Sturrock back at this level like a shot, he is only crap in the PL]. I guess Hoddle, no lets not go there.

He comes from Trowbridge. Living in Sheffield would seem like paradise

According to the newspaper article Saints are quoted as saying the loan agreement was terminated after he last played for us on 13th December. If that is true, then he would not have been travelling down the M1 in connection with Saints. You might take into account that he had probably been visiting his family for Christmas Day, after all he was not training with us as he had finished with us 12 days earlier. Seems very odd to me that despite his agreement having terminated the OS still reported him as being in the squad for Plymouth until the news of the accident broke. All a little bit fishy. Unfotunately tragedies like this happen when inexperienced drivers get behind the wheel of cars they should not be driving at their age. Because of the money footballers get paid these days they can afford the incredible insurance that normal joe soaps would not be able to afford. We've all done things like this over the years, but with experience most of us can exercise such manouevres in relative safety thanfully. Condolences to the family of Mr Mohamed.

It is because he is here as cover for Killer. It just about says as much on the OS. Hence it has been extended until Killer's likely (or unlikely) return to "fitness". So stop speculating as to the reason and tearing metaphorical lumps out of each other.

I beg to differ, though it does depend how measured: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_cities_by_population RankUrban sub-areaPopulationStatusCeremonial countyNotes 1London7,172,091CityGreater London, City of LondonGreater London administrative area only 2Birmingham970,892CityWest MidlandsMetropolitan district, minus Sutton Coldfield, which is counted separately, plus areas in the north of the Metropolitan Borough of Solihull (Castle Bromwich etc). Population of entire West Midlands conurbation is 2,284,093 (2005 estimate) 3Liverpool469,017CityMerseysideMetropolitan district. 4Leeds443,247CityWest YorkshireExcludes the areas of Bramhope, Guiseley, Yeadon, Garforth, Wetherby, Otley, Morley, Rawdon and Scarcroft. In 2001 the entire local authority population was 715,404. The population of the entire West Yorkshire Urban Area is 1,499,465. 5Sheffield439,866CitySouth YorkshireExcludes the areas of Beighton, Chapeltown and Mosborough/Highlane. Entire Urban area is 640,720 (including Rotherham) 6Bristol420,556CityBristol 7Manchester394,269CityGreater Manchester(Population of entire Greater Manchester Urban Area is 2,244,931 (2005 estimate)

Its not totally academic. It means the club is "valued" 10% less today than it was yesterday. Thats quite significant.

With Bristol being bigger than Manchester, I think it can cope with having the Gasheads as well.

It was an arranged marriage...