VectisSaint

Why is it just lowe at fault? Its not, Wilde is as much to blame, for giving Lowe the opportunity to get back in, without Wilde's shareholding Lowe would not be in charge today

Please lets not forget Wilde as well. He is the architect of the problem, and has the means to bring an end to this issue. He is also less stubborn than old rosey cheeks and so should be a more worthwhile target of the protest. So Wilde out, Lowe out and Poortvliet out

Charlton will be doing it more quickly than us. Will they be the first team to be relegated while still receiving parachute payements from the Premier League?

Its bad enough going to watch them play, can you imagine having to watch them train as well

Getting rid of Lowe is vital to avoid administration, not to mention relegation. Lowe staying will ensure both happen as sure as eggs is eggs. The cost of changing personnel is peanuts compared to the cost of relegation/admin

You mean when we finished 6th and lost in the play-off semi-final on penalties. When we had a decent assistant manager who made our mamager look good temporarily. And of course we now have the man as Chairman of the Football Club who ousted Lowe the first time and caused many, if not all of the financial problems (i.e. the ones that Lowe did not cause).

So when the two teams below us have played their 2 and 3 games in hand respectively will his post still be mostly crap. is finishing 3rd in a league of 10 that includes Lewes really acceptable? The results of reserve matches only don't matter when we lose. Winning consistently breeds a winning mentality at whatever level. This was a strong reserve side agains a Division 3 reserve side, we should have won, but we didn't because the pitch was a bit bumpy.

Its only the transfer window that close end Jan, the loan window is still available, and was used successfully last season by NP to bring in Perry and Lucketti. Who is to say that Lowe does not have an alternative plan in place (Hoddle?). A contract till the end of the season for someone does not necessarily have to be that expensive, especially if couple with a bonus for avoiding relegation, and the cost would be nothing compared to the reduction in revenue that would come with relegation to Division 3. Also, you should not assume that the squad are monkeys, I strongly believe that with a manager who knows what he is doing this squad boosted by a couple of experienced loanees could keep us up.

Hence the negativity. Admire your optimism, but we have won 1 home game all season. Why do you think Jan will get his act together now, when he has had all season to do so and failed. We are doomed.

Agreed, the Dutch duo are bereft of tactical ability. But what the heck we play an exciting brand of football that will make us the envy of every club up and down the country.

Can't see how you can judge anyone as being utter ****e in a 17 minute appearance. His goal was glorious and was the reason Arry brought him on when he replaced Le Saux. Any player that can make his mark in 17 minutes as he did deserves better than being called "utter ****e". For a few brief days the man gave us hope, I would give my right arm for him or his like now.

Are you sure, if it was Ottery, wouldn't it have been the Lavvy Hilly Mobby?

Thank God someone remembered, far and away the best loan that we ever had, even if it was Saggy Chops who brought him in. He may have been inconsistent but his performance against Norwich was outstanding and made me think we had avoided relegation.

UP, I think you have his name slightly wrong, try changing round the first letters of his first and last names and I think we have our man. He would fit in perfectly with the others at the Club. The new advisor by the way, the woman in the pictures, is Madonna. Following on from our previous experiments Madge is local (although she may have moved out following her recent divorce) and is well qualified to help run a football club, just like our Chariman.

You can fire people for gross incompetence, wouldn't be difficult to prove in this case. Wouldn't cost a penny. Anyway as we all know JP is paid peanuts thats why he was soooo much a better option than NP, so it wouldn't cost much to get rid. Whatever it would cost will pale into insignificance to the cost of relegation to Division 3.

Don't mean to be pedantic and I know where Iain Dowie was born (Hertfordshire) but from a football persective, he represented Northern Ireland.

Just shows what an excellent assistant Glyn Snodin was

Does the Saints Truss still exist? Or is NI now the Saints Truss? Sadly an organisation that should have been successful has been hijacked by the usual crew and has therefore become a meaningless sideshow.

As a supporter it is far better to accept the inevitable. The inevitable will happen unless something changes (something being manager and chairman). If that happens then you can hope, if not then there is no hope. It won't make it any easier when it happens but it will stop a lot of fretting between now and May. If by some miracle JP suddenly learns about tactics and where to play players and we win some home games then nothing lost.

No, they have been presented with a picture of Rupert Lowe to inspire them and ensure they never go down the same path as us. I hear they have installed it in their outside loo.

Excellent. If the Echo have been upset more chance of them turning against Lowe more than they have so far. I expect the jobsworth steward will be looking for a new job soon (don't wish that on anyone) once Lowe finds out that he has upset the Echo.

This made me chuckle, twice (1) That people still think this is a free country. The UK has never been a free country, that is a myth. (2) That people are surprised that anyone can monitor this message board. We are all monitoring this message board, thats how message boards work. I'm sure several people at SFC and the Hampshire Constabulary take a look at this site every day.

Any type of boycott will only work if the boycotters still turn up and stay OUTSIDE of the ground. Otherwise no-one knows you're boycotting.

Don't think we really should be judging any of the players to be honest. When we have such a clueless nice but dim head coach, completely out of his depth, players will not be playing to their true potential. Thats why Spiderman is not looking as good as he did. JP has completely lost his way(if he ever had one), has lost the confidence of the players and the downward spiral will continue. They don't know what to do, have no proper leadership that young players need (especially when Perry gets subbed). I still believe that with a proper motivated English manager and one, maybe two experienced loanees that this squad could be mid-table, then you would see some of these players playing to their full potential.

Oh God, the "we are so bad no-one would want to manage us brigade" are out in full force again. Clearly there are some managers with enough sense to know that working with Lowe would not be a very good idea, that will rule out Dowie, about the only really intelligent manager around. Then we have lots of other managers who realise that there is a job going and will bite Rupert's hand off to work at Saints. We are still seen as a good club (ok we know different), but managers know that jobs only last 1-2 years usually, they are usually not very bright (Dowie excepted) and will be willing to give it a go. They have nothing to lose, we are almost certainties for relegation, if they pull off an escape they will be lauded as saviours, if we go down as expected then people will blame Lowe and JP. Come on guys, be a bit more realistic, if JP goes today (please) then there will be a dozen or more hungry managers looking for a job, all of whom could do better than the totally inept, nice but dim Jan.