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Tisdale will feel sorry for his old team...

Did you ask Paul Tisdale instead? He may not have sniggered quite as much as he may still see it as a step up and being an ex-Saint might actually feel like helping out (though God knows why he would want to jack in his success at St James Park to work for the Dark Lord). Did you know Tisdale currently holds the record for the longest sequence of league games without 2 successive losses, something like 94 games in total, corresponding to when he took over at Exeter. I couldn't see our name in the Top 5, odd that.

D. Means that any action taken by Lowe as result of Boycott will be too late for any newly appointed manager to have any dealings in the transfer window. Action needs to be taken far sooner than February to have any chance of being effective. If nothing has changed by early February, we are doomed. doomed I tell ye

Exeter at home

Think Pearce is on his way back to Reading anyway, why else would he have been dropped yesterday? I think you'll find Cork is heading to Bolton as well. So, given that, we may as well have Saga back. At least we will have someone capable of scoring a goal or three.

The point is though that the only time to make this change is NOW, if it is to have any impact. The transfer window is about to open. Apart from the not-to-be-sniffed-at agent costs, there is no reason why a decent manager could not make some changes bringing in some players, shipping out others, without affecting our wage bill massively. There are players out there who would relish a chance even for poor money, shrewd moves can be made by a manager with some detailed knowledge, or by bringing in one or two of his own men, just like WGS did with Pauls Williams and Telfer. We all scoffed at the time, and Williams did not last long, but for a few weeks those 2 guys made a real difference to us, far and above what their playing ability would have suggested. Without the opportunity of working within the transfer window, any new manager is effectively hamstrung in what can be done. A new manager may not necessarily bring us survival, but not acting now will almost certainly result in our relegation. There is so much to lose, the gamble has to be taken.

I never called you an apologist, you simply read that into my comment yourself. But if the cap fits, so be it. Try growing up a little and have an adult debate rather than having a hissy fit.

But our players are only boysh, so they need to be rested, otherwise they will be exhausted, unlike the old gaffers who can play every week. It really beggars belief, these young lad should be able to play 3 times a week, their recovery period must be shorter than some of the old lags. Sadly yet more indication that our inexperienced coaching staff have no idea what they are doing. In the Dutch League there are only 34 games a season (I think, though not sure at the 3rd division level that JP is used to), this is not an issue for them. Incidentally, one thing that has always intrigued me. If the Dutch style is so good, how come we have not signed some good young Dutch players, you know the ones that Poortvliet and Wotte must know from their days in Holland. Maybe its because they don't want to play for nobodies, or maybe JP and MW actually have no decent expereince even in their home land.

No, you're right. Lets be the ones that don't do anything and hope things get better. FFS, you could replace JP with me and I guarantee things wouldn't be any worse, I could lose 4 games on the trot just as effectively as JP. Your response sounds like Lowe, lets try a little experiment and show the rest of the world that they were wrong and Lowe was right, and is the great visionary. JP will never turn this team around, please face it, accept it, and take action. Even if the actio fails, we can at least say we tried, but to do nothing is just criminal negligence.

No, this is th mistake too many apologists make. If the other team score more goals, then they have played better football. Scoring more goals than your opponent is the be all and end all of the game of football. I agree that sometimes the better team lose, and occassionally that just has to be accepted as "part of the game". But when it happens week in week out, then it is no longer a valid excuse. If you outplay teams 6 weeks running and lose 1-0 each time, then there is something wrong, you are not playing the better football.

The options in the poll are a bit lacking in imagination. I could vote for a total boycott, but given that I haven't been to a game since being ****ed off with the way we played against Watford, how can I boycott? How would anyone know? Boycotts in themselves are totally pointless. What I would like to happen is to boycott actually going to a game, i.e. actually buying a ticket, but for all the boycotters to turn up outside the ground and protest vociferously with banners etc. No threats, no violence, just loads of noise and vocal abuse aimed at Wilde and Lowe, before and after a game.

I think you may have missed one minor point about hunger strikes Still concerned that it may not be as effective as with someone who may already be of the "stick insect" persuasion.

I'm with St Landrew entirely, even down to when we started supporting Saints. And yes this is by a long way the worst team ever to don the red & white. The players themselves, I don't blame them, but there is no real talent out there that belongs to SFC. We laud Lallana and Surman, but quite frankly they are only made to look ood because they shine out from the rest of the shower of ****. Cork is the only one with real talent. A decent manager would be able to polish this turd for mid-table safety, but thats about as good as you can say. JP is not blessed in the turd-polishing department. I wonder if Ali Dia may have looked half decent in this team. Sad, sad day, I think I have given up caring (though it hurts to say that). I no longer feel any desire to go to a game on a Saturday, Lowe has beaten it out of me. I lost that desire at the Watford game.

I'm with St Landrew entirely, even down to when we started supporting Saints. And yes this is by a long way the worst team ever to don the red & white. The players themselves, I don't blame them, but there is no real talent out there that belongs to SFC. We laud Lallana and Surman, but quite frankly they are only made to look ood because they shine out from the rest of the shower of ****. Cork is the only one with real talent. A decent manager would be able to polish this turd for mid-table safety, but thats about as good as you can say. JP is not blessed in the turd-polishing department. I wonder if Ali Dia may have looked half decent in this team. Sad, sad day, I think I have given up caring (though it hurts to say that). I no longer feel any desire to go to a game on a Saturday, Lowe has beaten it out of me. I lost that desire at the Watford game.

I think you owe it to the lad to encourage him to support Liverpool or Manure or even the Arse. I don't think anyone deserves to be depressed the rest of their lives

Having long term plans is fine, unless the long term does not exist. I believe Woolies had a long term plan. This is not a plan, its just chaos.

Have we started playing our exciting, passing Dutch-style football yet? I think this is the closest I've come in 42 years to crying enough. It is disgusting that SFC has been dragged down to this level, even in the Branfoot era at least we were in the top division and had MLT to bring hope. Is it just me, have had a **** Christmas, now have to put up with this crap.

what the **** use is that, we're playing in the afternoon?

Just out of interest, any idea how long before you think you might get hungry? Just that we really need a change in management before the end of the season, looking at your location you may be OK for longer than that

Anyone got one of those little radio controlled helicopter thingies. Tie a small banner on the end and fly it up and down in front of the royal box, sorry Directors Box, and irritate the feck out of Lowe and Wilde during a game. I think the only way to be rid of Lowe is via Wilde, I think if Wilde loses his bottle then he will crack again and withdraw his support.

But thats the problem, its not because people hate him, its because he is not the right person to do what is right for the club to stay afloat. People may hate him as well, but most sensible people also see that he doesn't know what he is doing. He is not the financial genius that some believe, he is a financial disaster, and doesn't seem to understand that to keep a football club aflot you need to employ football players and football managers, and most importantly win matches. Lowe's way is the path to relegation unless he sees the light very soon.

or as I mentioned above is it simply that BCFC have exercised their option to buy which they always had. I won't try to defend the OS, but this is one conspiracy theory that does not really hold water. His loan was until 1 Jan with option to buy in January. It seems to me that JP just got his wording wrong, thats all. English is not his first language after all (nor is football for that matter). Stern is gone, thats the bottom line, and Rasiak is also unavailable as he was definitely on a season long loan. The only ones coming back are Saga and Fingers

Need to be more specific. Lowe will think we are referring to Wilde and will probably agree.

Happy Christmas, Ron. Even with your dodgy hips I'm sure you could still show the youth team how to score a goal or two. I suspect no-one will score 4 against Manure next week.

You seem to have selective memory issues. We used to moan like feck when Burley was in charge playing 4-4-2 and with no Plan B, and quite rightly. Like Burley, Jan is a one-trick pony, the sign of a poor coach, unable to effectively change tactics either during a game, or to suit the opponents style of play, or to play differently home and away. In any case its not just that there is no Plan B with JP, its also that the players are not good enough, at least in the case of McG, and cannot play the system that JP insists on playing. I LOL'd at JP's quotes on the OS when he says this is what the youngsters were brought up to play. That is absolute ****** Jan, only 4 of our regular starters have ever played in the Academy, and I don't recall George Prost employing the same tactics as JP, or maybe he did and he was just more effective and getting his ideas over to the kids, but thats what happens when you employ a 3rd rate Dutch amateur coach.