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what the **** use is that, we're playing in the afternoon?

Just out of interest, any idea how long before you think you might get hungry? Just that we really need a change in management before the end of the season, looking at your location you may be OK for longer than that

Anyone got one of those little radio controlled helicopter thingies. Tie a small banner on the end and fly it up and down in front of the royal box, sorry Directors Box, and irritate the feck out of Lowe and Wilde during a game. I think the only way to be rid of Lowe is via Wilde, I think if Wilde loses his bottle then he will crack again and withdraw his support.

But thats the problem, its not because people hate him, its because he is not the right person to do what is right for the club to stay afloat. People may hate him as well, but most sensible people also see that he doesn't know what he is doing. He is not the financial genius that some believe, he is a financial disaster, and doesn't seem to understand that to keep a football club aflot you need to employ football players and football managers, and most importantly win matches. Lowe's way is the path to relegation unless he sees the light very soon.

or as I mentioned above is it simply that BCFC have exercised their option to buy which they always had. I won't try to defend the OS, but this is one conspiracy theory that does not really hold water. His loan was until 1 Jan with option to buy in January. It seems to me that JP just got his wording wrong, thats all. English is not his first language after all (nor is football for that matter). Stern is gone, thats the bottom line, and Rasiak is also unavailable as he was definitely on a season long loan. The only ones coming back are Saga and Fingers

Need to be more specific. Lowe will think we are referring to Wilde and will probably agree.

Happy Christmas, Ron. Even with your dodgy hips I'm sure you could still show the youth team how to score a goal or two. I suspect no-one will score 4 against Manure next week.

You seem to have selective memory issues. We used to moan like feck when Burley was in charge playing 4-4-2 and with no Plan B, and quite rightly. Like Burley, Jan is a one-trick pony, the sign of a poor coach, unable to effectively change tactics either during a game, or to suit the opponents style of play, or to play differently home and away. In any case its not just that there is no Plan B with JP, its also that the players are not good enough, at least in the case of McG, and cannot play the system that JP insists on playing. I LOL'd at JP's quotes on the OS when he says this is what the youngsters were brought up to play. That is absolute ****** Jan, only 4 of our regular starters have ever played in the Academy, and I don't recall George Prost employing the same tactics as JP, or maybe he did and he was just more effective and getting his ideas over to the kids, but thats what happens when you employ a 3rd rate Dutch amateur coach.

Just a thought that perhaps in this case we should not actually blindly believe what JP said about John. After all he is wrong about most other matters, such as the way we play, how are strikers perform, etc. I suspect the truth is that he was on loan until end of year with an option to be transferred permanently in the January transfer window. JP has probably got notification of Bristol City's intent to exercise this option, and in his befuddled brain ****ed up the story. Here is some evidence to support my proposition: http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1P2-19478664.html John is also quoted on the BCFC site as saying that he wants to sign for BCFC permanently. I don't often back the OS, but suspect in this case there was no cover up, just that Jan Nice but Dim Poortvliet has got it wrong.

Of course Lowe will be able to bluster that he has 94.95% support, we all know clearly that it is only 94.95% of the votes actually cast, interesting of course that the actual numbers of votes cast are not published, since this would give lie to Lowe's bluster. Well blow me down with a feather. What Lowe should see is that he received almost 3 times as many against votes as Andrew Cowen. I was also pleased to see that even more people voted against Wilde than even Lowe, showing quite rightly who is the real person that should be removed from SFC. Interesting to note that Lowe decided not to involve the police with Chorley. Chorley shows himself to be a misguided idiot again, though the thought was quite clever, even if the execution was crassly stupid.

Why is it assumed that LM and others didn't vote simply because they walked out? It is normal practice to vote beforehand on your voting slip, you don't have to be present to vote, thus avoiding the situation where your vote is missed due to some unexpected event. There should still be a record somewhere of the votes for and against, though it will probably be some time before Dave Jones allows that information to be published.

Another tribute to the expertise of George Burley :mad:

Its about bloody time that Lowe was faced with someone with passion and shares giving him a verbal bashing. I am not a great admirer of Crouch, but without him quite honestly there would be no-one prepared to say boo to the goose (or duck). Its quite clear now why Wilde did not attend, because he knew that Crouch would run riot with him in the room. For all those that say this is childish, you are just so completely wrong. This is the whole point of having an AGM, it is the one legitimate opportunity for the shareholders to let the Board know exactly how they feel. I accept it will make little difference, but these things need to be said and Lowe needs to understand the depth of feeling against him. I wish I had gone now, instead of simply proxying my vote, I guess my 56 votes aginst Lowe and Wilde being elected will not tip the balance, but I have at least registered my protest legitimately and in a way that Lowe may understand. Well done Leon :cool:

What you say is true with regard to the gate receipts, but there will be significant additional income generated from the extra 17 or 18000 people buying pints, pies and programmes, not to mention extra sales in the store. We also get 2/6d from Sultana for the TV coverage

Given we've only got 14000 supporters these days, and we are a bit short of the old greenbacks, maybe we should be welcoming them with open arms. Must admit I am very surprised the game is sold out, but then if 17000 are plastic Mancs then I suppose it is not so surprising after all. All these plastics going along to watch their darlings from Sky, it would be great if Fergie plays the reserves instead, and rests Ronaldo, Thugfeatures, Ferdinand, Giggs, etc. That said still likely that they could murder us, 32000+ seeing what a third rate coach can do for a team. Still I maintain this weird hunch that we will sneak a draw or better, no logical reason to suppose this will happen, but "its a funny old game"

Neither. He is just a 3rd rate Dutch coach who is so far out of his depth that it is embarrassing. Nice bloke, wrong man for the job, but filling his boots given his one chance of glory

Not sure how to break this to you, but Pulis is not a loan, he's ours for keeps

Almost certainly. If the option is to stick with what we have or try someone else who knows the English game better then the gamble has to be taken. Simple really. Stick with what we have and go down, or gamble and hope that we stay up.

Keep taking the medication

It would be craziest result, but you can just see it happening, then all the press will laud Lowe and his vision, and won't notice us being relegated to League 1 after we lose to Histon [insert name of appropriate lowest ranked team] in the 4th Round.

He will be thinking, this style of football is attractive and exciting to watch, we have 27000 at the ground yesterday so the customers must like it, and all the teams that come here say how much they enjoy playing against us and what a wonderful advert we are for the development of young players and good football. Thats the problem, clueless.

Rasiak is on a season-long loan at Watford who have option to buy. He will not be back this season at least, and probably will never be seen in a Saints shirt again. Would rather have John and Saga anyway.

As well as that, shares owned by institutions such as banks or pension funds, will always vote for the status quo. I won't be attending the AGM but have voted against Lowe and Wilde being re-elected.

Bit unfair on Nick Holmes isn't it?

Any chance that we can do the same with Jan today? I'm not sure Gary Mc is the right man, he hasn't really shown he has what it takes so far, but the the same was said of WGS, and Gordie might put in a word for Gary to his old buddy Lowe. Of those mentioned my preference would be Tisdale, but can't see why he would leave Exeter to join us at the moment. Steve Cotterill is still out of a job I believe, thought he was the right man before Leon appointed Pearson, with Pearson unavailable Cotterill is probably one of the best candidates around. Knowing Lowe though he would appoint Hockaday, though to be fair he could not be any worse than Jan Nice but Dim Poortvliet, could he?