VectisSaint

Keep taking the medication

It would be craziest result, but you can just see it happening, then all the press will laud Lowe and his vision, and won't notice us being relegated to League 1 after we lose to Histon [insert name of appropriate lowest ranked team] in the 4th Round.

He will be thinking, this style of football is attractive and exciting to watch, we have 27000 at the ground yesterday so the customers must like it, and all the teams that come here say how much they enjoy playing against us and what a wonderful advert we are for the development of young players and good football. Thats the problem, clueless.

Rasiak is on a season-long loan at Watford who have option to buy. He will not be back this season at least, and probably will never be seen in a Saints shirt again. Would rather have John and Saga anyway.

As well as that, shares owned by institutions such as banks or pension funds, will always vote for the status quo. I won't be attending the AGM but have voted against Lowe and Wilde being re-elected.

Bit unfair on Nick Holmes isn't it?

Any chance that we can do the same with Jan today? I'm not sure Gary Mc is the right man, he hasn't really shown he has what it takes so far, but the the same was said of WGS, and Gordie might put in a word for Gary to his old buddy Lowe. Of those mentioned my preference would be Tisdale, but can't see why he would leave Exeter to join us at the moment. Steve Cotterill is still out of a job I believe, thought he was the right man before Leon appointed Pearson, with Pearson unavailable Cotterill is probably one of the best candidates around. Knowing Lowe though he would appoint Hockaday, though to be fair he could not be any worse than Jan Nice but Dim Poortvliet, could he?

To the first part yes, but then again we could empoy someone else for the same amount of money as JP, we all know now that he wasn't as cheap as we were lead to believe. What we would have to pay for a proper manager would be peanuts compared to what we will lose by continuing with the current one To the second part, no. There is no need to buy players, proper managers will get the current players playing better. All we need to do this season is to find someone who will keep us in the CCC. Its only bad team managers that have to spend money, just ask Arry.

No it wouldn't. If we still had the muppet in charge (JP) then 5m or 50m would make no difference. Its no lack of money thats the problem, its the manager who doesn't know what he is doing that is the problem. With the players we have we should be lower mid-table.

Totally agree. Wilde holds the key and has to act to remove Lowe and JP, after all he is the Football Chairman. Trouble is I don't hold out much hope. The man is a spineless, gutless, two-faced ******.

Total football, my arse. There has been no evidence of total football this season. I don't think some people actually know what total football is, Lowe certainly doesn't and JP doesn't either. What we actually play is Total ****e.

The point is that it would make Pearon better than Jan. Right now, I'd probably take Holloway, though I dislike him, he would at least have our players playing with heart and pride and in a system that suited their play.

I think we will win

And they are. We should be lower mid-table with the players we have, but we are not. We are 1 point off the relegation zone with 1 win at home all season looking relegation and administrtaion squarely in the face. Do you think JP would have Leicester top of the table even with the players and funds that Milan has? Would probably be just above the relegation zone, but playing pretty, exciting football (come to think of it Milan would have had the balls to show him the door long before now)

Question is though, would Hockaday be any worse than JP? It would be difficult to imagine.

Think you'll find roles will be reversed next season unless something dramatic is done to change things around.

As will relegation to League 1

Thought he was on a season long loan

LOL at discussion about Lupoli joining Saints, rather than a Prem League or Bundesliga team Its nioce to dream but reality check is needed here.

Williams and Ball, quite simply the best CM partnership we ever had IMHO

This is one of those completely non-event stories. Mawhinney is bigging up a rule that will have ZERO EFFECT on any club in the Football League. I would wager that almost every club in the Football League (note this does not apply to the Premier League) would meet this rule week-in week-out right now. 4 out of 16, its a complete joke. It has clearly been watered down to the lowest number that all clubs would accept. It will still be possible to field a complete team on the pitch with oversease players, as long as you have 4 home growns on the bench. Well whoopee-do. If Mawhinney had some bottle he would have at least insisted on 4 players on the pitch!!! And to be frank, this helps us no more than any other team. We continue to be deluded into thinking that this season we are blooding lots of our youngsters, the fact is we are playing 2 home-grown kids regularly who probably would not have otherwise played, Lallana and James. Surman is nearly 22 and would be an automatic choice in most CCC clubs, and McG is not a product of our youth system, he was transferred from Notts County. The rest of the team is made up of older players and loanees, or realtively expensive transfers in the case of Schneiderlin.

Originally Posted by lordswoodsaints i dont think that this is true,in fact i would go as far as saying you are talking out of your arse.when we were flying high in the prem with a cup final appearance i dont remember too many people getting on his back and the fanbase was certainly not divided. when hoddle was appointed most people looked upon him as a genius who pulled a masterstroke out of the bag,even when redknapp came along there were mixed views but nothing which indicated any malice towards lowe. he has had his bad points and he deserved to go when he did but to say that he has always been the devil incarnate is just ridiculous.i have mixed feelings about his return but as yet he hasnt done too much to upset me so i am happy for him to continue,at least until something else better comes along. I really can't believe that you actually think this seriously. If you agree that there was no dislike of Lowe before Cardiff then I have 2 words to say to you: Richard Chorley. Many many people were openly hostile to Lowe both before and after Cardiff, but like all good football supporters, we all bit our tongues when the prospect of a trip to Wembley (sorry Cardiff) appeared. I don't recall many mentioning the word "genius" in the same breath as Lowe when Hoddle was appointed, most people were confused or angered at the way Dave Jones was being treated at the time. Most thought he was a knobhead with his rants against Spuds, calling them North London bullyboys etc., and many thought he was completely off his rocker when he appointed Strachan (though we all grew to love him, for what he did for us). No, I don't think your rewrite of history to make Lowe out to have been a genius in the view of supporters is a common view at all. Incidentally, you keep posting that no-one has mentioned anything related to what Loe has done wrong this time, I guess thats because you ignore the messages where such information is given, such as my earlier post.

Trouble is the Poll was flawed. Read the question carefully. Do you have ANY confidence in JP. So 50% have some confidence in JP, that SOME can range from I have a little tiny bit of confidence to I have total confidence. The more damning statistic is that just about 50% have NO confidence. the poll would have been more useable if it had a range of options, such as None, Some, Quite a lot, Total, for instance. I think I voted for NO, what Lowe has done wrong is make a decision to coach young, inexperienced people with a coach totally inexperienced in this country, in the league we are in and with the players at his disposal. What Lowe should have done was say, right the path we are going down is using young players with little or no experience, but backed by a small number of experienced players to give some guidance and backbone, much the same as is being done, and for this I will appoint a coach who knows the English game, has some experience in the CCC and is good working with young players. There are just too many imponerables in the current set up. Now who would have fitted the bill for the right way to do things. I know, Nigel Pearson :mad: Great with kids, knows the English game inside out, has worked with some of the most respected managers around, and some experience of the CCC. On top of that he is also a young British manager, which has always been Lowe's mantra in the past, but conveniently in this case he dropped that criteria when it mattered most. That is what Lowe did wrong. I quite like JP, but he was not the right choice for what Lowe wanted to do.

Interesting point. The other similarity is that neither made it at their first club as a senior, both blossomed after a transfer elsewhere. So the sooner McGoldrick moves on the sooner he will be a 20-goal a season striker lol

And to think that this pillock was nominated for Coach of the Year in the recent BBC Sports Personality of the Year (SPOTY) awards. Thank God the bloke with the bikes was around otherwise old saggy chops may have won a gong for something he knows nothing about, coaching.