VectisSaint

Maybe the threads about Lowe are something to do with the 3 part interview on the OS, together with the radio stuff the other night, the reports on Sky and the remarks he made in the financial statement the other day. Oh and the fact that the AGM is in 2 weeks time. Keeping a low profile, my arse. Although to be fair to the bloke he is at least talking less nonsense than he usually does (though thats not too difficult). I see you also trot out the nonsense that our hands are tied by the banks and so there is nothing we can do. Of course things are tight, that doesn't mean we have to employ a manager who is out of his depth, there are other good English managers out there who could be doing at least as good a job with the same resources as JP. I don't know of anyone not supporting the young lads, is anyone getting booed? Don't think so. The only one underperforming is McG, and thats only because he is not suited to the style JP tries to play at home. He will be a very good player in years to come, no doubt. By the way, who was NavyRed? Don't recall him on this Board, can't have been much of a contributor.

22 man squad, 22 named. No mistake as far as I can see. Maybe Tommy Forecast will play up front tonight instead of McG

Must be awful to completely lose Sundays 2nd game in 53 hours more like Can't believe Euell is not even in the squad. More nonsensical decisions from the Club (can't tell whether its JP or RL), just when we need a fresh pair of legs. I don't know why the OS can't be straight about this, or at least put up some lie about him being injured, but just to completely ignore him in the squad write-up is treating us like mushrooms again.

You do know how long he was at West Ham do you? Just in case you don't, he joined 26 June and was not retained when Curbs left on 15 Sep. I guess you could say that he didn't do much in 2.5 months, but then most of that time was pre-season wasn't it. Fact remains, his arrival at Saints coincided with a turnaround in our fortunes after GB had failed to arrest the slide after Arry had left, and his departure coincided with Burley completely losing his way at Saints, turning out the most unfit, demotivated squad I've seen in over 40 years of support. GB demonstrated how to turn a reasonably talented squad (albeit with no central defenders) into a hopeless, unfit outfit that would surely have been relelgated had NP not sorted things out.

Depends if you consider the time when he had a decent assistant manager or the whole time. While we had one of the best assistants around in Snodin, Burley was made to look good (and to be fair most successful partnerships are formed this way). But Oh My God, when Snodin left we got to see how bad GB really could have been. Clearly the best manager since WGS, was and is Pearson, as he continues to demonstrate at Leicester. His winning mentality, together with his experience working with youngsters and his knowledge of the English game puts him head and shoulders above anyone else, and what is the saddest part for me is that he was the ideal man for the job under Lowe, sad that Lowe could not put his pride aside so that he could have employed a highly respected young English manager to manage our young, talented but inexperienced kids.

Have to say as an anti-Lowe, that I almost enjoyed reading Part 3. I was particularly impressed with "we'll do whatever is correct for the long term benefit of the SUPPORTERS, the next generation of player and the shareholders." I am pleasantly surprised to see RL admitting to doing things for the benefit of supporters (first) and shareholders last. I suspect a ghost writer has been employed There is also a hint in the piece that we are not in the truly awful financial mess that we have been lead to believe until now, though he is clearly leaving the way open for a few departures in January. Well done Lowe, I will grudgingly accept that this is better than I dared hope. Now, if only you could see your way to getting us a proper manager for our talented, inepxerienced English players...

Maybe he has, but it is unlikely to be the reason he was not picked as he hadbecome a regular in the games before his sending-off, and as a result Saints would have saved 3 appearance fees anyway. No, I am almost sure it was another of Jan's silly decisions that reinforce my belief and that of many others that he is out of his depth. Reports that Lowe and JP have had a falling out are in my opinion signs of some realisation by Lowe that JP is not good enough, my fear is that Lowe will not be man enough to replace him with someone with proper experience but will instead go for the cheap optioin of using Wotte or Hockaday. Come on Rupes, do something with balls, which might even up my opinion of you (go on bring back Hoddle FFS, you know you want to)

Votes against Lowe Votes for Lowe Makes himself look like an ass by having no principles This is the man who is responsible for the continued mess at our Club

Noticed that as well, and thought it very odd, but to be honest apart from that he was actually very good. Much better than the bloke last week who was truly appalling, and probably better overall than Will Can't Cope, who makes too many mistakes and fawns to his co-commentator far too much.

No-ones having a go at the kids, in the main they are doing bloody well. What we need is someone that can coach them properly, instill a will to win, make them a bit more hard-nosed and also to understand that you don't survive in the CCC playing pretty football. We are being run on a shoe string, we do have talented kids, but we also have a management that is, at best, naive. Thats the nub of the matter, not the players, and of course who put this bloody experiment in place, and who is the nast piece of work who supported this bloke to get him back into power. Wake up, see what is happening, just because we don't have much money doesn't mean we have to make do with nondescript managers, there are good young ENGLISH managers out there who would have this team of GOOD YOUNG (mainly) ENGLISH players doing better than they are. Why does Lowe big-up the Englishness of our team, but insists on employing a second-rate European coach. Simple, because he is a fool.

Ah, ok, so now blaming the supporters for not turning up. You sound like Lowe, blame everyone you can other than the ones that matter. Supporters don't turn up at home because we are bereft of ideas how to win AT HOME, yet go in huge numbers to away games (which of course gives no benefit to the Club except in vocal backing). A chairman with vision, instead of the clueless prat we are currently stuck with, would recognise that it is worth taking a bit more of a hit on the wages by having 1 decent striker like John playing and possibly winning more games, and having a few less duds on the books such as Pulis and some of the loanees such as Peckhart. That way the crowds would increase and go at least some way to pay for the striker that we need. The longer we persist with McG who is a good prospect but will not deliver sufficient goals over a season yet to sustain us the sooner we will find ourselves below the dotted line. Still I live in hope, maybe even expectation, that we will get something from the Palace game on Monday.

Don't be so damn patronising you ****. Continue to hold on to the fact that 3 games ago we had a single good performance AWAY FROM HOME. If you care to read my post you will see that I am referring to our home record, where we cannot win against apparently appalling opposition. Is it beyond your simple wit to see we have won 1 home gaime in 11 so far, and our afwfully nice but inexperienced manager has no idea how to resolve that issue? It is you who needs to grow up, and see the **** position we are in and stop believing the spin that we are only in this position because of the young, inexperienced players and the shoestring budget. FFS we are in this position because we have a hopelessly inexperienced manager trying to manage a team of inexperienced youngsters on a shoestring budget. We have the wherewithall to put at least one of those constituent parts right, but because we have an idiot in charge of the club who cannot accept that he makes mistakes we continue down this path that will lead us to administration and/or relegation.

Worst EVER start to a season at home, repeat worst EVER in over 80 seasons. OK, thats 4 games unbeaten, 6 pts from 12, but how can we hope to survive, at least financially, if we cannot pick up wins at home against what sounded like an appalling Sheff Wed team with one of the worst away records in the League. It really is time that Lowe realised that Jan Nice but Dim Poortvliet is out of his depth, and either needs some serious help, or needs to be replaced. Luckily there are some other poor teams around us at the moment that mean we are keeping our heads above the dotted line.

Ivan Golac, no contest :cool:

His references on the radio the other night and in the Annual Report are to "the previous board". The previous board was chaired by Crouch. Quite simple. If he was to say the board previous to the previous board, then he would be referring to Wilde and/or his appointees where the blame should squarely lie, but of course that would upset his current mate Mikey the Quisling

I reckon 3-2 today, feeling positive for a change that we could get a result. Mind you, if we don't then we are in serious trouble COYR

Definitely nothing in the notes about the intent. As you say if this is simply renewing an earlier resolution that has expired then there is probably nothing in it. I just wonder why they feel the need to have these powers in place, there must be some reason, otherwise why bother?

Cheers UP, while I do have some knowledge of these financial issues, these 2 resolutions were just mind numbingly financial geek speak. The second resolution does not include anything about them not intending to invoke this. Have just realised that there are another 2 paras on the reverse page (8.1 & 8.2) might have helped if I'd read them as well, although 8.1 at least is just more of the same jargon. 8.2 does refer to an amount of £70,227 as being the amount (of shares) they can issue. By the way the short titles for these 2 resolutions on the Form of Proxy are: 7. Authority to allot unissued shares 8. Disapplication of statutory pre-emption rights

There is one thing worse than having Lowe spouting forth with his me me me attitude, and that is having Wilde do it instead. we have a puppet for a FC Chairman, and it can't be long before even the puppet realises that he is being attacked by Lowe in his statements and made to look even more stupid than he actually is (if thats possible). Please don't encourage the Quisling to poke his head above the parapet to make more embarrassing statements. I can put up with Lowe, because we know his style and can ignore it, but Wilde just makes my blood boil these days.

Received my invitation to the AGM and voting papers this morning. There are the expected resolutions to receive the financial statements & to re-elect all of the Board Members (Cowen, Lowe, Wilde and Jones), but there are 2 resolutions under Special Business. I've read these resolutions through and can confidently state that they are complete financial gobbledegook to me. Can anyone else explain what they mean, so that I can make an informed decision how to vote (I already know exactly how to vote for the other resolutions). I won't enter the complete resolutions because they are quite lengthy, but to summarise: 7 Directors generally & unconditionally authorised of the purpose of Sect 80 of Companies Act 1985 to exercise powers to allot relevant securities up to aggregate nominal value of £468,181 blah blah blah 8 Pursuantto the authority in 7 above Directors empowered pursuant to Sect 95 of the Act until 1 Dec 2013 allot equity securities for cash blah blah blah gobbledegook blah.

... and then to perpetuate the "boredom" by starting yet another thread. If you don't like the threads about Lowe don't read them, and especially don't start them.

Only 10 pages There have been hundreds of threads about Lowe, and dozens about the Quisling. In the(un)popularity stakes, Lowe and Wilde outstrip Crouch by miles. I was also against Crouch, primarily for the way he used to shoot from the hip, but he has proved to be by far the most astute chairman we have had in the last few years, recognising that he does not have the acumen to run the club alone, but working with someone with the skills of Lee Hoos in the background. I still feel that if these two could have harnessed the abilities of Cowen as well we would have had a good board in charge. Many people did not (do not) like Crouch, but with the exception of his dallying in appointing a proper successor to the lame Scot Burley, most recognise that he did not do a lot wrong in his short tenure and acted with a damn sight more dignity than Lowe or Wilde could ever muster. At the end of the day he is the only one who truly supports this Club, and puts his money where his mouth is by continuing to sponsor it despite having to hand the money over to Lowe and Co.

or perhaps he realises that Manure will not play most of their stars, and hence we will be playing their reserves, which at least will make things a bit more even.

TYpical Lowe, blame everyone else but don't accept any responsibility. And how can he continue to work with the Quisling, when he had as much responsibility, if not more, than Lowe? It beggars belief that Lowe continues to blame Crouch, when the real blame lies with his partner in crime Wilde, and also that people continue to believe that these two, who between them are responsible for all the financial woe will somehow mircaulously get us out of the mess. Wilde out, and take Lowe with you please, two failed businessmen at the helm is too much to bear.