VectisSaint

Interesting point. The other similarity is that neither made it at their first club as a senior, both blossomed after a transfer elsewhere. So the sooner McGoldrick moves on the sooner he will be a 20-goal a season striker lol

And to think that this pillock was nominated for Coach of the Year in the recent BBC Sports Personality of the Year (SPOTY) awards. Thank God the bloke with the bikes was around otherwise old saggy chops may have won a gong for something he knows nothing about, coaching.

Wish he was

White has best moment of dull match so far, good run beating 2 men, then unleashes a good left footed shot that brought a save from Brighton keeper Sullivan.

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Think you are wrong. JP was definitely referring to Euell in part when he replied, though not trying to say he was the only one. If there is any excuse for what JP said, it could only be that English is not his mother tongue, and it came over a bit wrong. Still in my mind if Euell cannot read what McG is doing then that must be a plus, because neither can anyone else.

Actually he had a couple of good incisive runs early on, but since then he has hardly been involved. The Sky curse even haunts players when on loan

Amongst other points missed, I think you have lost sight of the fact that this is meant to be a bit of fun. You do realise that the team won't actually be picked and will not be performing at SMS any time in the near future (shame because they would murder the current bunch). Bit miffed that Steve Williams is not an option. I did say in the nominations post that Paine should be the winner, especially if based on being a right winger, whereas in a 4-4-2, Williams should probably be considered as an option. In my mind Steve Williams should be a cert for midfield (with Bally) but suspect he will lose out.

With respect Tijuana, these are vastly overestimated "valuations". In the current climate 1m for KD would be good business (though disastrous for the hopes of survival). Anything over £1m for Lallana would also be stretching it a bit. Drew might attract 1.5m if we are lucky, more likely less plus a makeweight (Delap, Fuller, Davies AND Higgy would do).

Can we have a Wilde Out sticky as well, since he is even more to blame than Lowe (if thats possible).

Its not just the numbers of attendances that will drop, but the income per ticket as well, there is no way that we could continue with £26 or so in League 1 (at least if we did the gate would drop even more than anticipated). Administration is not inevitable, there are lots of things that could be done to avoid it, but most involve selling assets or cutting costs further, thus making our stay in League 1 (or 2) even longer and more painful.

Realise this doesn't help TT, but you can view his progress on Sky tonight if so inclined, Brighton v Shrewsbury from 7.30. If he is a true Saint, he will of course have a mare if Sky are there

Since when is 20th place mid-table? Thats the best we can do, (unless we have a 7 goal turnaround with regard to Barnsley or Derby. Mid-table means the positions from 9th to 16th inclusive. Even 6 points would not get us there.

So Jan is the best we could do in the current circumstances is he? LOL. If people seriosuly believe that then they know little about football. Jan is out of his depth, and we could do better with a manager that understands the Football League. Ince, though is definitely not the answer, though he would probably do better than Jan. Having inexperienced players is all very well if you have someone good who can work with them to get the best out of them, Jan is not that person.

Seem to recall we were 8th in 1973 about this time (out of 22) and we went down Bloody changes to 3up 3down.

True, we already have one of those in charge, we don't need another one.

I disagree, the simpler answer must be to get rid of Wilde. Without Wilde's backing Lowe does not have control. Wilde is the key, he is the king maker, and he is the one without principles and with more to lose, not to mention the fact that he is closer to the edge, I think, than Lowe, because of his business failures. What is needed is someone willing to buy Wilde out and who can get along with Crouch, then Lowe will be gone very quickly.

So I guess you weren't aware that Swindon benefited from Walcott's transfer. In that case it certainly wasn't 25%, but it was worth a 5-figure sum to Swindon.

Normally reports in the NOTW are greeted with the derision they deserve , but I guess any port in a storm if it suits your agenda.

If the formation works so well away why have we conceded 6 goals this week in 2 away games. It works occassionally, but teams know how to beat us, read Jack Cork's comments on the OS about yesterday's game. He states quite clearly that "they [burnley] countered our style by playing really hard pressing football, and that made it tricky for us to play from the back". Well, bugger me, teams have worked out that if they get at us from the start it stops us playing pretty football. The style does not work often enough away from home, once in a while is not good enough, though the performances away to Reading and Preston (2nd half) were absolutely brilliant. By the way, in case you don't know we actually have 3 good strikers at the moment, any one of which could be playing alongside McGoldrick in a 442 formation and racking up a few goals, I will just mention their names in case you have forgotten them, Stern John, Marek Saganowski and Gregorz Rasiak. Unfortunately our dim Chairman has loaned them all out, two to our CCC rivals, in the mistaken belief that it saves money, when we could have kept any one of them for no more than the cost of some of our excellent loans and transfers, Peckart, Robertson, Smith, Gasmi and Pulis who have so far contributed so much to the cause this season.

Unfortunately the whole premise of your post is based on fiction not fact. The season does not end here, we have another half season to go. We could of course have another half season where the results end up exactly the same, the likelihood of that is remote to say the least. History and form, and informed opinion would suggest that at least one of the Clubs in the bottom three will improve sufficiently over the second half of the season to escape the drop. It has been clear in the last few games that Forest and Doncaster are both showing signs of improvement. However, Charlton are the most likely to escape, bearing in mind that they do at least still have parachute payments to help them in the January transfer window. Of course, you can argue quite legitimately that Saints can also improve. I agree. But it is unlikely while we still have JP in charge, since he has shown no signs yet of understanding what it takes to regularly win games in this division, or even win at all (almost) at home. Nice bloke, completely out of his depth. As well as that, we are almost guaranteed to lose at least one of our better players in January for financial reasons, and in addition most of our loans come to an end. There is a way for our situation to be changed, but it requires Lowe to accept that he has made a mistake in his appointment of JP and his much-hailed experiment. Past experience suggests that hell will freeze over before Lowe admits he was wrong. There you have the nub of the problem, we could improve even with th existing players given a proper manager, but we will not while Lowe is around, and Lowe is not about to walk out. hence the negativity. At least one of Charlton, Forest or Donny will not be relegated this season, I will almost guarantee. On the other point that you made, "Lowe is our best option", how so? Why do you imagine that the people who are almost entirely responsible for our financial mess, namely Wilde and Lowe, are the best options to get us out of this mess? In any other walk of life, you do not entrust a rescue to the same people who caused the problem in the first place. We had a better option, namely Lee Hoos with the backing of Leon Crouch. This team had already put in place some of the financial changes that Lowe now claims were his ideas (closing the corners, reducing transport costs, loaning out high earners Rasiak and Skacel). They had also put in place a young British manager, much respected in this country (by football people) for his abilities to work with young players together with a dollop of experience and no money. The pair of them (Hoos and Pearson) seem to be doing quite well at Leicester so far, despite everone thinking that Mad Milan would have sacked them by now, after all with your thinking if the season ended now they would be champions of League One and be guaranteed to be playing in the CCC next season, which is more than canbe said for Saints. So please don't trot out this continued nonsense that Lowe is the best option. It is clear that if Wilde had a spine and could have buried the hatchet with Crouch for the good of the club, as he has done with Lowe, that Crouch and Hoos could have been backed by Wilde and, with the backing of the bank which they had, would probably have had us slightly higher in the League than the curent regime has managed with basically the same players, the difference being that NP would get more out of the current squad than JP is able to do so.

We are good when we are 2 or 3 down. Thats reasonably simple to understand. The opposition take their foot off the gas, and let us play, sit back and counter attack. Sometimes it makes us look very good, and we do indeed have a rousing comeback. Occassionally the opposition get so nervous they collapse a la Preston. But its no good waiting until the game has got away from us. We have to be good from the start, as we somehow managed to be at Reading. JP has no idea why this is, and is not able to motivate the players to play well from the off, that is why he is out of his depth, and why a different manager would be able to get more out of this squad. We are clearly not crap, we just lack someone decent to motivate and manage the team.

:weedman::weedman: I'll have some of that weed, man

Nice bloke, but not suited to the job, don't blame him, blame Lowe, but in the end I have no confidence that he can turn this around, never have, never will.