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Could do worse, almost anyone would be a step up on Hojbjerg and JWP. But why is Joe being touted to PL clubs?

Not sure there woud be much to lose if China decided to stop showing Saints. They might actually get increased TV audiences. I sure as hell find it difficult to watch them at the moment.

An average team would be great at the moment. We do not have an average team. We have a hopeless team, with only one or two players who can justifiably hold their heads high; Ings and ... OK, now I'm struggling. We also have a manager who cannot manage the defensive side of the team.

Down to a total lack of movement by our midfield. McCarthy had the same problem, no one showing for it. Stephens' frustration showed a couple of times when he went forward with some purpose and tried to make things happen. Unfortunately when he does it leaves us horribly exposed because our same midfield cannot do anything to cover. Our midfield today were hopeless, absolutely ****ing hopeless *****il Romeu came on). Until we get some decent midfield players we are well and truly ****ed.

It was quite clear where we were weakntoday, CM. PEH and JWP absolutely hopeless, at least Romeu made things better. Our CBs weren't great today, Bednarek especially was woeful, but they weren't the cause of our failing to score and losing. We desparately need to improve midfield, average CBs can be good enough if there is talent in front of them. A decent keeper would help as well.

Probably won't be long before this bunch would be doing that. Whatever happens, and it's odds on we will get relegated, we need to completely clear out this bunch of hopeless ****s at the end of the season. Only Ings, Romeu and possibly Djenepo (who was a passenger first half) really should escape. Everyone else can **** right off.

Some players just incompetent, Mccarthy in added time.

Hojbjerg continues to be absolutely hopeless. Runs around like a headless chicken and gives the ball away whenever he gets it. His shooting is also shocking.

Hojbjerg is absolutely awful today, our whole midfield incapable of making a pass. We look really **** at the moment.

Chelmsford City, not Cheltenham Town. Couldn't make it at a Level 6 club. ?

Not remembered with much fondness I know but Bald Eagle has died. Chatted to him in the lift at St Mary's just as the Norwich games was kicking off the year we went down, I was late and was surprised he was not down on the Bench. Tainted by Redkrapp association, but well respected in the game.

They did, but to be fair the U18s aren't doing too badly this season, there is a group of 4 teams (including West Ham) who are so much better than anyone else in the Division, but Saints are currently at least best of the rest, hugely inconsistent it seems.

That's the double over them, we beat them 4-3 in the fist game of the season. Only one other win this season in the PL2 Div 1 (Wolves).

Played very well first half, but second half, especially after they scored, he lost his head. He panics and this leads to bad mistakes. Over the 90 minutes he probably comes out of it well, but really you need better in a skipper when the chips are down.

Long was not backing in. The Amazon tater was spouting that nonsense as well. You can't back in while going forward. If Friend thought it was a dive then it should have been a yellow. It was a blatant push, but because its Long it isn't given.

Hardly a brain fart, left exposed by Cedric being out of position, one player can't mark two attackers. The only negative thing you can say about Stephens there was that the whole defence was playing a stupidly high line and a well placed path undone them. Think Cederic could have stopped it even from his poor starting position. Thought other than that Stephens had a very solid game, Bednarek got caught out of position couple of times but he was recueed by team mates. JWP had a good game tonight, his corners were much better, and he didn't give the ball away repeatedly like he did on Saturday. Hojbjerg though was dreadful in the second half, you really want your captain to keep a cool head, but PEH looked extremely nervous and flustered. Thought Bertran had a great game first half, then went completely missing second half, no attacking threat at all. Redmond is struggling for confidence, looks to have lost a half a yard of pace from last season and that is costing him. Ings is becoming a massive player for us, not just his goals but his energy and enthusiasm, has a weird way of running but it is effective. McCarthy's distribution is awful. Well done Saints, we needed that second win. Long way to go though, we still look poor, but at least we are better than two sides. Need to find a third now.

Fonte was considered a liability for a few seasons here before he finally came good in the PL. Used to make a major cockup nearly every game. Dear old Claus wasn't the greatest, but formed a stunning partnership with Killer. We've had a few top drawer CBs in the last few years, VVD, aAlderveireld in particular, these are world class players, we will be very fortunate to fin their likes again. Stephens has shown in the last few games that he is better than the other dross we have, alongside Bednarek. Yes we can arguably upgrade a bit, but we won't get much better. It's a pity we didn't sign Johnny Evans, not the best CB in the world, but he shows what experience brings, and playing alongside Bednarek or Stephens he surely would have helped their development.

You've not heard of the idea of players taking a cut in wages? I know it doesn't happen often, but players with a brain who have bombed do actually take this route. Moi will never get to the PL level, but he can operate at the level of the SPL and could make a decent living on Celtic wages. Trouble might be that Celtic might actually not want him, he has done quite well, but I see that he is not even in the squad at the moment, maybe he is injured, and the Hoops are doing pretty well without him. he really hasn't become a must have for them so far. Fraser, well I did say about brains. But I think even he may see that taking a drop and staying at Celtic would be good for his career. He isn't going to displace McCarthy or Gunn.

Yep, pathetic. Can't put forward a logical argument so just slag everyone else off as stupid. Then resort to insults and bad language. Typical response. JWP was awful yesterday, but he did score the winner (for once he actually did what everyone says he is a master at, it was a very good free kick). he also was involved in a couple of other good moves up front late in the game. But for the first 55-60 minutes he was absolutely ****ing abysmal. Anyone can see it. That's the trouble the good things he did late on paper over an appalling performance. People are "slagging him off" justifiably. Clearly yesterday he was not able to handle the pressure that the team had put on itself by the abysmal home performances this season. He is not the man you want when we are up for a battle, he can't handle it. Time and again this season he has shown this. So, you **** right off.

? The typical response of someone who really does not know anything about football. "If you disagree with me you must be stupid". Pathetic.

JWP did not make tackle after tackle. He was absolutely woeful today (goal excepted). No idea what you were watching.

Well done on finally getting a win. But let's not forget the abysmal performance before Djenepo and Ings got us back in it. JWP will get plaudits for the goal, rightly, but his performance apart from that was truly horrible. Hojbjerg too, unbelievably bad. Until Djenepo's magic it was difficult to see why he was on the pitch, looked so out of his depth. Obafemi, Cedric truly awful. But that will all be forgotten because we won. Hopefully the confidence will help these players be better next time.

Maybe we should change to supporting the New Saints, making Leicester look ordinary at the moment.

Where did Ralph slag off MO?