VectisSaint

So just about everyone then ?

If its truly Player OF THE SEASON then there is no argument, Ings. He was the only bright spark when things were looking bleak. There have been a few who have shone in the last couple of months, Armstron, Stephens, JWP but none have been good for the entire season so far. Armstrong and Stephens weren't even in the team early on, JWP was absolutely awful back in late Autumn. Credit to all three who have turned things around massively but they don't deserve Player of the Season.

You really believe Fonte didn't play because he was being rested? Nothing to do with Les pushing him out having promised VvD the captaincy. Well, each to their own I suppose.

My view is that a 10 point gap to the bottom 3 represents safety. Depending on today's results that could be today.

Nope, he's primarily a central defender who can operate as a RB or LB or even as a wing back. The confusion comes about because he often operates on the right side of a back three, but there is absolutely no doubt that his primary position is as a stopper, not a full back.

German (Bavarian) idea actually (Ruhmeshalle, Munich)

He'll go to Leicester

Osvaldo returns http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51536036

Yes but you don't seem to see how ridiculous you sound. What do you think we should do, give the ball away to get the possession down. You can't play low possession against some teams. What you say is undoubtedly true, we get better results when it is us counter attacking, but you can't make the opposition play to our strengths. That's why Dyche has us sussed.

There you go ?

Beat me to it

Thought Redmond was out for 1-2 months. Don't reckon he'll start v Villa. Be surprised if Boufal is fit either.

So much for being told fully fit team. No Redmond.

They will almost certainly have their punishment suspended pending the outcome of the appeal. Reasonably sure City will still play in Europe next season.

Lawrie Mac brought him ba k from Werder Bremen and he played 2 seasons for us, two of our best, we finished 6th and 8th. Great defender, sad to hear about his health.

Why do you think anyone who hates Johnson is (a) a lefty or (B) likes or supports Corbyn. The majority of the electorate did not vote for NeoTories, just like the majority of the electorate did not vote for Brexit.

No need to sacrifice a defender, just leave out Vestegaard.

Will Boruc be in goal?

Absolutely this. He is a **** if he is anything to do with Cummings and Johnson. Don't care where he was born.

We are actually in agreement mostly, it is the other posters on here who are scapegoating. Yes, you would consider it worse to give away the ball in a dangerous position for instance just outside the penalty area, but in practice we are conceding goals (and that's all that matters in the end in football) because we are giving it away when we are attacking and our defenders have (over) committed to support the attack. I wasn't going to respond to Shurlock comment but the bottom line is that it didn't actually cost us a goal. Vestegaard shouldn't More by luck than judgement. It's irrelevant to the argument, Vestegaard is not the one being scapegoated, if all things were equal he shouldn't even be on the pitch, total liability. In the end what I say is true, Romeu is being scapegoated, his errors are not costing us goals (as a generalisation, I'm sure someone will find an example where it did) ) whereas others who do cost us goals are not being criticised. Just because Redmond had an otherwise brilliant game does not get away from the fact that his sloppy lay off actually cost us the game. I want Romeu in the team, he is a far better player than Hojbjerg, for instance, but PEH is all action, balls out and so doesn't get criticised. Bottom line is that we really need big upgrade in MF next season, we are weak there both in terms of quality and quantity.

It's not a terrible argument at all. It shows that the giveaways were not in such critical positions otherwise Spurs would have scored. People are blaming Romeu for the number of goals conceded, yet there is no evidence that he is the cause of these goals, they are just scapegoating, and you agree on this. So often the goals we concede (or penalties) are down to our attacking MFs giving away the ball cheaply when we are committed to attacking. It's been the same for a few seasons now, Redmond, Boufal and Tadic serial offenders, but our CBs and DMs get the blame. I'm not actually convinced that Romeu gave the ball away in a dangerous position at all against Spurs, but then I haven't watched the whole game. I would still rather have him in the side over Hojbjerg who is a liability too often. But we have no options at the moment.

To be fair, 4 games without a goal was beginning to be a concern, but Ingsy put that right in the replay.

Redmond's sloppy, misplaced pass lead directly to the Spurs pen, far worse and more critical than any mistake OR made. We didn't concede from any of his mistakes (if there were any). Seems to me to be getting blamed for nothing. Scapegoat as already said. Rather have Oriol in the team any day rather than Hojbjerg.

Guess that's why we employed him. Good to keep him busy.

City v Wet Sham is off