Whitey Grandad

I agree completely. It's just that sometimes it seems like there's one ruling for Salah and his mates and another for the rest of us.

I know which I prefer.

Then what is the point of it? I am genuinely interested.

At the time I never considered that to have been a reasonable chance of a goal. Similarly with Alvarez, I could see that the cross was too far away from him for him to get anything solid on the ball. Perhaps this is a difference between watching the game live or watching it on TV, which presumably is what the statisticians do.

That's only of any use if the stats are accurate, representative and objective. Each goal chance is treated statistically as a separate independent 'event' yet this is far from the case. Once a team has gone 2-0 up in a game, no matter how 'unexpected' these goals may have been, they will naturally concentrate on keeping the game tight from then on. This means that they will typically have fewer goal chances as the game progresses. Therefore to sum up all the perceived chances in a game and give each of them an individual probability of success which is then added to the others to give a final xG total for their team is misleading.

It used to be reckoned on one goal for every six chances. Overall.

After my lens replacements I now have better than 20-20 vision but that's not necessary for this game. When was Haaland's 'very good' opportunity?

Same for us. Why would anybody buy something technical from the UK when they can buy it from somewhere else in Europe without all the hassle?

That's not what I saw.

Yes of course, but did xG tell you that or was it the results?

I eventually got around to watching the basic highlights on Sky and something struck me about our 'goal' that was disallowed for offside. There was quite a bit of debate on here recently about whether Salah should have been given offside against Wolves but wasn't because the ball came to him off a player who was considered to have deliberately played the ball before he received it. In our game JWP had a shot on goal which was blocked by a defender who stuck his bum out to deflect the ball as it was going behind him. This was a deliberate action by the player so what is the difference between our game and Liverpool's? No VAR of course.

Well said. Statistics have their place but they have to be used in context. Using statistics you can prove that wind is caused by trees waving their btanches.

It's bollox because the data taht is extracted bears no relationship to what happened on the pitch.

A clue as to what?

But xG is never anywhere close to the actual goals scored, which it should be if it ever meant anything.

Only if you want to think of it as such. The rest of us know that we are on a shit run and don’t need any figures to prove it.

Why is it that xG never comes close to the actually result of a game, even with the benefit of hindsight? Anyone who was at that game on Wednesday will have come away thinking that Saints could well have scored three or four whilst City might have got one. If they were very lucky.

And all the stats put together mean nothing.

Nope. It’s rubbish. It doesn’t take into account that it was Alvarez and not Haaland. And I think you meant to write ‘complementing’ and not ‘complimenting’. This bloody autocorrect gets everywhere;)

When it comes to xG there’s nothing to understand. It’s idiotic.

He didn’t start against City and I think that’s one of the reasons that we played so well.

Is that women in their mid 60s or women from the mid 1960s? Either way, I’m in 🤓

The Chapel was virtually empty. Well, half full.

Can't argue with any of that. I like the last point that was mentioned. "I dread to think who was our second choice"

Understandable.