Whitey Grandad

Disrespectful.

No, I wasn't talking about population growth, I was referring to the policy of encouraging an immigrant workforce in order to pay for the indigenous elder population, a workforce who will have not contributed anything to their own pension plans and will become an even bigger demand once they themselves get old.

The petition or the move?

You need to look at the demographics. When these younger people get old there will be far more old people than there are now. Then they will need even more younger people to pay for them. It's not a steady-state system, if it were there would be no need for more taxpayers to pay for the oldies.

That's a giant Ponzi scheme. In time these younger contributors will get old and need supporting themselves.

I presume that's the one that only goes sideways?

In the past wars have performed this role.

'a lack of ethnic diversit'. A revealing choice of words. Why should everywhere have an ethnic diversity? You'll be calling us 'hideously white' next. Nothing to do with bad government and all to do with lack of money and increasing demand. Can you not see that if we had not had the ten million extra inhabitants that have arrived over the recent past then there would be plentiful housing? 'increased immigration is likely to drive up standards of living for almost everyone'. I haven't got a clue as to what might possibly make you think that. I know of no circumstances where an increased population using the same resources can lead to better living standards, quite the reverse.

I was thinking the very same thing about South America.

Hardly a phrase, more like a couple of words amongst a load of others, indeed he used the couplet 'my bad, my good'. He might equally have said 'my bad tooth'. Anyway, it only took 400 years or so to catch on and there is no need for us to encourage its use. Is there any definitive news about our old mate Papa?

These studies are selective rubbish, they ignore the capital contribution of the existing infrastructure. Immigrants do not bring in large quantities of money so they depend on facilities that current and previous generations have taken years to build. An extra 10 million people in the country with no increase in roads, trains, housing, water supply, sewerage capacity, electricity supply, gas supplies, schooling, surgeries, hospitals and so on only reduces the services available to those already here, as we are only too painfully aware at the moment.

Blimey.

I had been hoping to forget it

Thanks for that I've always wondered where the name came from.

Maybe the club thinks they can develop his talent. Personally I don't think he's the worst player in the league but there obviously some room for improvement.

Don't forget that we have gone up two divisions so you would expect a team in our position to have cost £150m more than the original. Now that we have established this new team 'all' we need to do is fund replacements and running costs.

Were making hard work of this but Walcott makes it 4 with his first touch.

At least we don't care if they get clogged. Actually...

I've played on worse.

Ain't that the truth.

I took that to be an example of hyperbole. I don't think it was supposed to be taken literally.

I think I read £3m somewhere but you wouldn't know the true figures until the accountants have worked on them. Let's call it break-even but don't forget that if we've sold assets above their book values then there may be a Corporation Tax liability.

Very few left in the areas I knew. I don't wish to turn this into any argument about race because it isn't. It's about the wholesale replacement of one culture by another.

As Liberace said: "I cried all the way to the bank".

Officially our population has risen from 52m to 64.5m in my lifetime. The current figure is accepted to be well below the true figure which some estimates place at 80m. This is just one: http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2099461 That increase has not come from the indigenous birth rate. Your argument about the ethnicity of the arrivals is only relevant if you also provide figures showing its makeup. In any case, it doesn't matter where they come from, it's the quantity that has the impact.