Micky

Gotta laugh...!

I would agree totally. It seems quite inappropriate that clubs that go into administration are penalised in this way - they need assistance from the governing bodies, surely - not a kick in the bollux. No club sets out to achieve administration - it is a consequence of a series of events that lead to such things. As I understand it, Luton were docked points as well for 'financial irregularities' as well, but even with those charges levelled against them - surely they do not deserve to be hounded from the league. I think the powers that be should remember the fans part in all of this too - we are the life blood of the club. Do we deserve to be punished by the league because our Board were incapable of running a business as a going concern - I think not. Yes there should be penalties for administration - but those penalties should be weighed against the sequence of events that caused the club to go under and not just meted out as a 'one punishment fits all' system.

I think ESB has probably got the OS and Local BBC News confused there to be honest. There is nothing on the OS that I can see.

Perhaps Tac-tics can throw a little more light on the situation...???

Sorry, what wording? Link?

Relax, it could have been much worse....

Ahhh the nub of the problem - it is far to easy to get behind Olly Lancashire....

Sadley no - Thomas the fookin' Tank Engine...!

My original comment was tongue in cheek I can assure you. But your point about why was the question of a work permit was not addressed at the initial stages of negotiations is a very good one. Who knows, perhaps it was and it was percieved that there wouldn't be a problem. If, on the other hand, this problem has only just come to light - you would have to question the negotiation & agreement process.

With all due respect, go back 1 month, we were hovering on the edge of a precipice, could have been bought by LLS, endured the Pinnacle debacle and finally survived courtesy of Mr Liebherr. So I think that most have woken up and taken a good long sniff of that debt free air - and are probably quite happy with thier lot right now. Evidently our new owner is not short of personal funds, but that does not mean that he does not expect to run the club with prudency. From what I understand he currenly runs at least 5 large successful business ventures. The sooner we all understand that SFC is no different to his other businesses the easier it will be to throw off the 'sugar daddie' syndrome. Last month he invested about £14M into our club - lets give him a few months to 'flash the cash' again eh?

No, not really you can't. If that were an excuse for being paranoid then all Saints fans would be so, as we have all suffered exactly the same emotions as you, but paranoid - clearly we are all not.

You've entirely missed the point Phil - this is not about a work permit - it's because he wants more money...! ....and in your own works: Whoosh - didn't see that one coming... did ya..?

Yeah, very good - I note that you didn't quote the complete post and you only have one relevant word...! Surely not trying to distance yourself from your words are you? Tell you what - I'll help you out with a few relevant words from your post, perhaps then you might see why I (and others) thought that you suspected some sort of conspiracy theory, as opposed to a simple case of a work permit problem.

And once again you spectacularly miss the point again...! Whether you really believe that your 3rd party information eminates from the club is irrelevant - the fact remains that it is not an official explanation. All that has happened here is that the player has been refused a work permit - we may yet appeal and win. So why not wait and see, give the club a chance to respond officially before you throw your conspiracy theories into the mix?

You appear to be doing a very good impression of the preverbial Italian Tank. What your actually suggesting now is that everything that we read in the press is as a result of the club leaking information to them..! If there is anybody else who would like to subscribe to this bizarre theory then I'd be amazed. How many times have you read stories in the press that don't come true? Ill let you read your own words yourself, you wrote them, but you appear to want to distance yourself from them now - go on, have a gander. So you have not intimated at all here that you think the club is lying to you... no?

Hello, because that information has come from unofficial sources. Sources 'supposedly' ITK from outside the club. Sources in the media that are guessing to fill column inches. Sources that sit where you are now, guessing and speculating. SFC 'The Club' have told you (us) nothing officially about this player - they have not lied.

Exactly - coupled with the fact that the club has not (to my knowledge) commented officially about this particular player as well, makes it somewhat difficult to see where we have been lied to by SFC.

So you are not a lawyer (my, I'm surprised..!), but somebody who just makes assumptions. Nobody in the club has even commented on the player joining (officially) - everthing on here and in the press is hearsay. So, how have you been lied to - did the club phone you and tell you that the work permit has been sorted? Naaah I thought not. We, or indeed some other club, might yet surmount this problem which will allow him to play - and if that is so then good luck to all parties. But to suggest, without one iota of substance, that the club is lying to the fans is rubbish. My how Markus must be happy to know that we are 100 percent committed to the club and not at all fickle.

They have given you honesty ffs, they haven't commented..! Other sources have... you sure don't live up to your username. Duuuh...!

Ohhhhhh pooooooooo....!!!

Remind me never to do 'Dinner at Ponty's' - far too dangerous...!

Lounge & Main Board (Pub). Rarely go to the lounge, hence most of what happens there is lost. Spends moucho moucho time in the Pub (Main Board) 'chewin' the fat', 'earwigging' and interacting with the lads - know pretty much everything that is going down. In immenent danger of losing (as Wes points out) one to the most subscribed posts in recent times, a post which will come to a natural conclusion anyway come the start of the season. A good topic - moved from the mainstream - not the best editorial decission - all IMHO of course.

What Wes said - it is Saints related as it's purpose is to show the comparison between the two clubs who find themselves at opposite ends of the FL, whilst also being in very different financial / stability positions which belie each clubs current plight.

Brilliant game - but don't forget, Bruce was in goal for them - Lawrie could've bunged him a tenner before the game...! No, joking really, honestly....

Yeah - could get Maradonna too - don't think that he's going to the Skates anymore...!