Micky

Probably not - but as with any plan - any possibilities must be factored in. Fact remains though the 'five year' plan has not got off to a great start granted, but there is an awful lot of that plan to execute. Correct me if I am wrong, but I seem to recall a certain Roy Keane making a very dodgy start at Sunderland - but I'm pretty sure that Niall Quinn is happy that he kept his nerve and stuck with his man. How much longer do you want to give AP - shall we sack him after another 5 games and start all over, yet again?

Good to see that the usual suspects are once again showing thier true colours. It was always likely though, with the weight of -10 around our necks, a poor start was always going to make the 'less stable' start to waiver in thier support. I only hope that ML has more nerve than some of our fans appear to possess. I really don't think that we are only aiming for safety at all - it's just that currently, we are not 'hitting' where we are aiming - and we need tweaking. Once AP and his staff get that tweaking sorted - I'm sure results will follow. Correct me if I am wrong - at the beginning of this bright new era it was mooted that the current owner and management were working on a 5 year plan and not a 5 game plan?

Because an Advanced Modern Apprenticeship is a Framework qualification, generally consisting of Key Skills, an NVQ, Employment Rights and Responsibilities and a Technical Certificate. Whilst NVQ's are often much mocked, they are not designed to prove academic proficiency - they are tailored by various Sector Skills Councils to prove competence at a certain level in the workplace - which generally speaking they do. As many of them are government funded schemes as well - employers generally will encourage thier staff to enrole on such qualifications. I have worked with people who boast various different Degree qualifications but who bought absolutely nothing to the table in terms of working experience and thier degree subjects helped them little.

Damn - not available here in Germany...!!! Keep the info snippets coming please people...!!! Ta.

Prawns were frozen and there were no batteries in the radio...!

I come, I read, I decide what I think is bollix, and consign it to the 'bin'. I think that if I learnt anything over the course of the mamouth recent 'takeover' thread, posters on here are anything but ITK. Some like to think that they are, and rightly or wrongly, some appear to deliberately posture such a stance to give themselves some sort of creedance. Either way - to the poster, put your head above the parapit and expect some flak, to the reader, when you throw the flak, do so with some substance of your own and a degree of courtesy.

It would appear that sinister things are happening just down the road too, beggars belief that kids can do this to each other, hope the lad is ok: http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Boy-Hung-By-Noose-From-Tree-In-A-Portsmouth-Park---Bradley-McLachlan-7-Was-Rescued/Article/200908415367604?lpos=UK_News_Carousel_Region_2&lid=ARTICLE_15367604_Boy_Hung_By_Noose_From_Tree_In_A_Portsmouth_Park_-_Bradley_McLachlan%2C_7%2C_Was_Rescued

I saw this too - SMS Head of Catering immediately sprang to mind.., or am I wildly off track here...! ~ ??

Not much of a selling point to be honest. Support Pompey you are the best fans in the world, support Burnley you are the best fans in the world, support Chester City you are the best fans in the world, support Saints you are the best fans in the world, and so on and so on. Get it. Investors probably don't give two hoots about the best fans at the end of the day - it's the marketability, and ability to get a return on thier investment. Very few Romans about who are willing to take a mighty hit in order to play with his train set - you have to be viable, stable and producing revenue. Are you?

I think it's fair to say that he is very very unlikely to be solely responsible for events, he may well be a 'patsy' for those who remain uncaught and unconvicted. If he played any part in what transpired that day though, he deserves to be repatriated in a box. If innocent - well - that's another thing entirely.

Exactly - he was, we we not..!

Funny, funny thread - love it. Couldn't make Swindon or Huddersfield, absolutely no passion about the team - time to mag to grid and get someone new in eh...!

Tis a bit bad when a guy, who could've been earning big bucks warming the bench at a Prem Club, appears to be our most motivated, consisitent and professional performer.

Sorry, so are you saying that from the very outset you never supported the Pinnacle bid?

Everybody here seems to think that a couple of CB's will be the answer to our problems - but from what I heard tonight, they wiped the floor with us in midfield, we never created a chance and never scored a goal. Gonna need to be some CB to sort that little lot out. Well played KD, again.

There's a queue - wait your turn eh...!

We have a set peice - they could score here...!

Sounds like we are being hassled off it all over the park...

Remind me - are we any good at set pieces...???

FWIW I agree with all of the OP's points - and I think that the pies at SMS need more salt in them as well, it's about time that these things were sorted - the new regime has been in for 2 games now.

Save yourself time and effort and call him 'Hearbouy'....

I believe you are correct in general terms with what you say. TL and MLT acted (I believe) in good faith - thier intentions were good, but I don't think that they knew the money mans real intent. Hence they went with the flow. If we are to believe the current story - it would appear that Pinnacles (not necessarily TL) intent was to try to buy the club and then offload it at the earliest opportunity for a profit. Even that in itself is no crime - it could have proved a god send had Mr Liebherr not been waiting in the wings. Unfortunately - like most football fans - we Saints have very *short/selective memories, and at the time most were clamboring for Pinnacle to do the deal, buy the club and install MLT as Chairman. Most here would have been very happy had that happened - because the other option was LifeLongSaint *and/or oblivion. As history now shows - Pinnacle appeared not to have the wealth that they first purported to, Mr Fry opened the door to others and (luckily for us) Mr Liebherr bought the club. Ok - so the Pinnacle thing severly hampered our pre-season preparation, that said - we could lost the club altogeather. So I agree - that TL's intentions were probably honourable, but unfortunately he didn't have the backer behind him and couldn't see that. At the end of the day - it all worked out pretty well for us - so I for one, have little complaint.

Right - best get him back on the wing again then eh...! 1 in 5 is hardly proven, and right now if we could get somebody who could weigh in with goals from midfield it would be a bonus. Decent player - but to my mind - tends only to 'turn up' when the Sky cameras do!

He may well of said that - but did he say that he was going to get them...?? Big difference.

Errr you must be new here - we are the Saints Web Forum - we want it and we want it now - no 'ifs', 'buts' or 'excuses' - got it, not in one games time, or two - now, instant success or your out...! Welcome to the real world...!