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I agree with your first point duckhunter. The bias was laughable. I mean whatever your political affiliation, nothing that Paul nuttal said warranted the constant booing and ridicule from the audience. It's very frustrating when a significant political point of view is effectively silenced in that matter and I can see what ukip leaning voters say when they talk about BBC bias and not being given a fair hearing. The whole thing was very poorly done and I'm annoyed that may or corbyn are the choices to lead the country. What a shambles.

It's a terrible choice and an absolutely awful election. I imagine the vast majority of the public will be very disillusioned.

Believes the feminist wage gap lies and is in the group for women and equality so not for me thanks.

Incredibly biased audience despite corbyn doing well. They are loving the greens.

The point is we don't have to choose one over the other. The fact we got one and not the other is part of the problem.

Have you heard something Duncan? We should have gone for silva...

We southerners never forget.

Well either that or people are correctly responding to his posts by calling them what they are- complete and utter b*llocks rather like that poster from a few years ago who was convinced that people hated players like Martina because they were racist.

[emoji38] not this again! Hitler was not a Christian you complete fruit loop.

We make a nice little club in your own deluded mind because it's easier for you to process things that's way. It's really the mindset of a racist to lump everyone who thinks differently to you into one category. What you have also missed are other Muslims who have been in the media who believe it is very much to do with Islam. How do you explain them? I've never said all Muslims are terrorists by the way, that's just another lie to add to the litany you have already spouted throughout this thread. On a separate note, I see that well known Christian Katie Hopkins has proved she has much in common with that other Christian icon Adolf Hitler by calling for a final solution. That's just more evidence to definitively prove that Hopkins is indeed a holy figure in the faith. We can file the latest piece of evidence next to her claim that she was Jesus Christ and Hitler having a Christian belt buckle.

I'm utterly astounded that the Tories have fecked this up so badly. Their manifesto was so uninspiring and lacking in hope that I feel that some will vote the fantasy manifesto of labour simply because it offers some sort of optimism. If the Tories get a reduced or non existent majority then they really will only have themselves to blame.

You are right that there are a very high number all over social media (many of them celebrities like Katy Perry asking for no borders whilst living in a secure mansion separated from the outside world.) but I have heard some encouraging noises after this atrocity and I do think people are recognising that we are going through the same things on a monthly basis now and simply shrugging our shoulders and saying there is nothing we can do about Islamic terrorism is no longer an option. I compare the reaction of the Manchester attack to the Charlie Hebdo one and I can see a definite change of opinion in some people.

Do you reckon the people slagging off mane were the ones subsequently calling him world class? Or do you think they might have been different posters?

Really strange response. Many posters sneeringly asking for real suggestions about what can practically be done and when I offer something- whether you agree with it or not- your response is a sarcastic put down rather than a proper reply. With attitudes like that it's little wonder that the majority of the public have turned against the left.

I don't know how big a problem the immigration issue is. For me I do think there should be more initiatives working with mosques and more powers to investigate mosques that are suspecting of harbouring terror. Certainly the hate preachers like Abu hamza openly preaching hatred should have been dealt with much earlier than they were. There's clearly a middle ground between raiding all mosques and deporting all Muslims and what we currently do and hopefully some sensible initiatives can be worked out to reduce the likelihood of attacks in the future. An expert on five live earlier said the Tories should do more to work with more conservative imams rather than just the liberal ones and that sounds like a good start to me.

I stopped reading when you said I have a problem with Muslims as frankly you are an idiot. The laughable thing is I married into a Muslim family and by your own admission you do not know any personally yet you act as if you are the spokesman for the Muslim population. You are the very definition of a virtue signalling leftie, safe in your leafy suburb whose views are aired simply to make yourself feel smug and superior to others. Frankly you and others of your ilk are part of the problem but thankfully you are a diminishing number as more people wake up to the problem and more practical solutions are offered. It's not about demonising all Muslims, it's about recognising that Islam is a part of the problem and discussing how various parties including Muslims can come together to tackle this issue. Burying your head in the sand does more harm than good.

agreed but then this is morning telly so probably not much time for an in depth discussion. I think he made some good points, certainly more nuanced than the likes of soggy on here who reject outright the notion that this has anything to do with Islam at all. I think the most productive conversations to be had are those that acknowledge that Islam is very much a part of this and discuss how it can be combatted by a number of parties. My suggestion is that a lot more needs to be done within the mosques themselves.

Extremely sorry to hear that Guan. These things always hit home harder when they affect you personally. My condolences.

Why are you attempting to lump everyone in together? I wouldn't insult someone like moonraker by pretending your mad views are shared by him. Kindly don't do the same to me thanks. I know it suits your agenda and is easier for you to handle when you pretend that everyone who thinks there is an Islamic extremism problem in the UK that could at least partially be handled by the Islamic community is a racist by please try to understand that there is a wide spectrum of views on this issue, many which strongly disagree with you.

Personally I'm fed up with empty platitudes. Pray for Manchester, this won't defeat us. What's the point? It's the same meaningless comments every time.

You're hopelessly biased and lost. Corbyn is utterly unelectable and a terrible leader with some awful flaws. May has been totally uninspiring and will win by default. It's depressing.

Are they going to redo that OURS picture in the stand with HIS now?

That could be true I suppose. I can't imagine there are many in the electorate (even Tory supporters) who do not want a normal Labour party with policies and ideas they can vote for. This country is crying out for someone with an exciting vision who doesn't have loony radicals ideas on both sides of the political spectrum. What we have at the moment is terrible for democracy.

If I were leading the Tories I'd have just released a load of middle of the road policies that are incredibly uncontroversial, annoy the least amount of people and win by a landslide. What's the point of releasing a raft of controversial stuff that fans the flames of the "nasty party" narrative? How is that going to appeal to the soft Labour voters that they want? Or maybe they think that people will just vote for Brexit and swallow all the other rubbish they have tacked on. Very disillusioned by both parties right now...

Considering the Tories hold all the aces, they have played this election campaign appallingly.Why would you refuse to debate Corbyn when his appearance and how he comes across is one of the least appealing things about him? Why would you go after easy votes in the form of older people? Why would you support fox hunting which will gain no votes in the areas they are trying to break through? Really odd strategy to simply repeat the strong and stable mantra whilst doing little else. Labour have their own problems but no need to make their job easier.