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I love the way that he doesn't complain getting a red and walks off. If that was nowadays, the red card would be brandished and all hell would break loose.

Manyama's tackle looked borderline yellow /red - could easily have got either - but it was a stupid tackle. Given that it is his third red card this season, all for similar tackles, he clearly doesn't learn. I was at the other two - we could have held on with 9 players against Bournemouth - they were never going to score, but he cost us three points at Norwich as we were well on top when he was sent off. On form he is brilliant, but we haven't seen too many of those this season. I think that he will go in the summer. Agree about Byram on Bertrand. That should also have been a red card.

Thought Long's work rate was v good. As was VvD. Need to watch a replay of the Wanyama sending off before reserving judgement.

Would still say Kelvin for me due to the number of one on one saves. Not taking anything away from Fraser's performance tonight though.

[video=youtube;UoUOD-h6N6w] although we went down, one of the most euphoric goals i've experienced as a saints fan

Agreed. Particularly enjoyed the clips from the Man U game in 1974. Had forgotten that Osgood had hit the bar. All I remember is the gate being closed just after 2pm and there being thousands of united supporters in the Dell. Result didn't do either team any good as both were relegated.

Well it was only because of uni that I decided to go. There was definitely an occasion when the ball was kicked onto Newmarket Road and didn't seem to return. I agree though, to watch a game and think "I don't really care what the result is" is a refreshing feeling.

What is winning? What is a football match? What is time? Only when we know the answers to these questions can we arrive at a well founded conclusion.

Bit harsh. Suggest that you watch the you tube video. Leeds v Saints in the Championship season. Unbelievable performance that day. Agree that he struggled a bit in the Premier League recently and the less said about his performance v Leicester the better. But a great servant to the club, stuck around after relegation, made a huge contribution to the promotion seasons and a top bloke. Well deserved testimonial. Hope to be there.

Oscar Gobern for the tackle? Richard Chaplow? Steve de Ridder?

I've started going to see Cambridge United play which was a right laugh. Was just wondering what other clubs people watch due to it not being possible to travel to see Saints or on the days when Saints are away.

Put it this way, I want Bournemouth to stay up, do well in the PL and would happily watch them with a probable bias towards wanting them to win (unless it was against us). I want Portsmouth to be carpet bombed with Trident.

Wins at Old Trafford like London buses. None for ages then two come along at once. We all remember the 4-1 win at Old Trafford in 1969 when Big Ron scored all four, but I had forgotten that we won there the previous year when Man U were European champions. On checking it turns out that we did the double over them in 1968-69. Our record against Man U is actually not that great but we beat them three times in a row in the late sixties.

Maybe not the most expensive, but Delgado must have been the biggest mistake. The hype was ridiculous and he really couldn't be bothered. At least Ramirez seemed to try. Happy memories of WGS when asked about Delgado, replying that he had a yoghurt about to expire and that was a bigger worry. About 40 seconds in.

Went last year and it was great. Can't go this year, sadly. We parked in Altrincham, and then got the tram from Altrincham to Stretford. 10 min walk to ground and easy to get back. Found a friendly pub in Altrincham high street that served all day breakfasts. Result

Hope this rumour is true. Sell him

Never ever expected to see Eastleigh first on MOTD

The thing that really bothers me is that the team spirit that we have had for the past 5 years is rapidly disappearing. The teams that have over-performed this year (Bournemouth, Watford, Palace) have it in spades. We don't. It's not just lack of confidence. The teams of the 90s weren't very good but generally battled for everything. Beginning to think that RK is part of the problem. I think that he may well go in the summer, along with Mane and Wanyama at least. Need to get the next appointment right, and get player recruitment right. Going to be a tough next 12 months.

I am old enough to remember 1973-74. 5th in December. Only won three games in the second half of the season and went down. It's possible that it could happen again. I think that we will scrape together enough points to keep clear of the bottom 4/5 but don't think that we will get back to where we were at the start of the season

I seem to remember that Liverpool dropped a few points at the end of the season after they had won the league. We came with a good run at the end of the season to get second. But agree that we should have won the cup that year. I was at Highbury to see a half-fit Steve Williams play. Can't ever remember feeling more gutted after a Saints defeat

Can we just park this thread and reopen it in 5 years time? JWP is 21. If he is playing to the same standard at 26 then some posters might have a point. But he might have improved in this time.

How much did we pay for Mane? something like £7 million? Even if it is half the rumoured amount then it is good business for a player who doesn't want to play for us

Agree with this. Although if he leaves, I wouldn't hold back in abusing the ****.

We will survive this season. It's next season that worries me. There is clearly a malaise about the team that needs sorting out. The teams that are over-performing (Bournemouth, Watford, Palace, Leicester) all have a fantastic team spirit. Ours has disappeared