Rebel

Apparently Saints scouts are at the Benfica v Porto game. I wonder who they are watching? Rodrigo Moreno Machado perhaps?

Your right I meant left back - Fox has to go and we need someone to provide cover for Shaw for now as he shouldn't be playing ever game. And if you've actually watched Saints lately you'd see we are desperate for a centre forward come striker who can finish things of in the box and lead the line. We also need pace up front and width on the right - something Zaha would give us. Lallana drifts in to the middle and plays as a number 10 meaning we have no one on the right. We should play him in the hole behind the striker and bring in a wide right forward.

I'd like to see us go for a couple of players on loan as January is never the best time to buy the right players at a good price. That way if they make an impact we can look at signing them permanently in the summer. john Guidetti to give us the centre forward we need, Wilfiried Zaha to give us the right winger, pace and the ability to go past a man Ryan Bertrand to give us competition and cover at right back. All three of them need game time and been talked about as potential loans - and we need the players - and I'm sure we'd be a more attractive proposition as a destination for their parent clubs than most of the other clubs in the premier league. We're not challenging any if them for the top four, we play good football and we're not struggling at the bottom - yet. We also need a centre back but I think we are just going to have to buy one of them - Albert Botia or Hector Moreno from Spain would do dor me.

There's something about a Danish journalist proving it somewhere by asking Kitson a load of questions which give it away

I did it today - one senior and one U11 to two adult tickets - but I think you can only do it with season tickets You have to pay the upgrade cost and the ticket tax for buying on the day! Sometimes the ticket office staff have no idea how to do it though! But you can only do it at one of the ticket office windows - the ones marked 'customer services' You have to hand over your season tickets until after the game though

It will be the B team - Jos, Maya, Fox etc - and we will lose against a good Burnley team

I have to completely agree with you on that The crowd was embarrassingly quiet today - but that's because the team were awful for the first 5 - 10 mins and lost the crowd After that the first half was pretty even - but second half we basically gave up - and completely surrendered once Chelski scored We seemed to lose every 50-50 ball - and the 60-40 balls as well Sat at the back of the chapel stand today and from there it was obvious we lack real pace and movement up front - we need someone like Torres who really worked over our back 4 today and ripped them apart with his pace, aggression and movement By comparison JayRod was embarrassing Too often we were static on and off the ball - with no one to pass too Chambers was probably our best player today along with Cork - but he was at fault for one of the goals at least Ramirez is and was pointless - he should have come off of Lambert - and taking Cork off was asking Chelsea to score 2 or 3 more

To be really successful in the premier league, play in Europe and/or have a good cup run you need two good players in each position. At the moment we don't - and too wait for the academy to fill those gaps could be a fatal mistake. Ideally your academy gives you a third player in each position. Added it that you need to bring young players through gradually - giving them the odd substitute appearance, then the odd game and then shirt runs in the team - coaching them all the time - but allowing them to build their confidence and match fitness, gain experience and get streetwise. Take left back at the moment - Shaw is obviously good enough to make the top class grade - but should he be playing week in week out at 17/18? No - not if you don't want him to pick up injuries and burn out before he hits his peak in mid 20s. But we simply don't have any cover for him - Fox is simply not good enough to play in the Premier League. We really need an early 20 something left back who is good enough to be our first choice left back to alternate with Shaw. Target will hopefully be good enough to step up next season as the third player - and maybe the second if we end up selling Shaw. If we do sell Shaw to a Chelsea I would take Bertrand in part exchange to be our first choice left back. In fact I'd ask Chelsea if we can have him on loan for the rest of this season - and not sell Shaw until the summer at the earliest. As for centreback Yoshida was good enough last season when given a run in the team so it would be Hooiveld I'd move on. It's a catch 22 as he needs games to get match fit. Hopefully we'll replace Jos with Astori in January. What we should have done though is bought someone like Caulker or Ilori in the Summer as it doesn't sound like Stephens or Turnbull are going to step up.

Fox is a truly terrible left back because he simply can't defend - he can't seem to tackle, when he gets forward he doesn't track back, his positioning is terrible, he drifts in to the middle all the time and he always seems to back off players and invite them to shoot or pass In the Championship it took teams 60 mins to work out he was useless - in the premier league it's takes teams 15 mins. Spurs were so bad it took them 25 mins I must admit when I saw the line up yesterday I thought we were going to loose 3-1 at the minimum. Garza, Jos and Fix are a fatal combination at this level. One of the biggest problems is neither Fox or Jos are very good at clearing the ball - they just head or hoof it forward when under any pressure so it comes straight back at us. A top class defender like Lovren will clear the ball to someone on the same team.

He needs to go on loan to A League 1 or League 2 club to get some much needed experience and to be toughened up

sometimes we just need to keep it simple - we over elaborate in defence when the simple pass or the long ball out is the right thing to do. We seem to keep possession at al costs - even when it means giving the ball away in dangerous areas It's the same up front we lay it off, try the nutmeg, the dribble around or the flick on when the simple through pass or actual shot at goal is called for Villa kept it dimple when it mattered The game reminded me of the one against Reading two season ago when they taught us the same lesson - we don't learn though It's time to get rid of Gaston and Osvaldo and reinvest the money somewhere useful! We should flog Osvaldo too Atletico Madrid - get Adrian Lopez in on loan in return and play him on the right of a front three, JayRod down the middle and Lallana on the left, bench Lambert and bring in Banega to play in the whole with Morgan and Cork behind him We also need a spare left and right back - Bertrand and Trippier would do Oh and Astori for Yoshida and Hooiveld!

We need a centre forward just as much to finish things off and put the ball in the back of the net!

What we really need are a couple of full backs to provide cover for Shaw and Clyne! Oh and a striker and a right winger! Get those in for January the 1st and we might have a chance of finishing in a Europa league place

Got what we deserved today - a 3-1 loss We're not as good as we hunk we are yet - and we simply don't have enough strength in depth. We are also a striker light - someone with a bit of pace and power - and someone who knows when to pass the ball. I think Osvaldo's time as the main striker is up - and I'd sell him back to Italy or off to Spain in January - but Ricky is not the man we need either unfortunately Ramirez should have been song off for foul after foul - but you expect big club bias from the Refs at their grounds The worst thing was Chelsea out fought and out pressed us - too many of our players looked tired - too many had bad games - we gave the ball away far too much and wasted all our free kicks and corners.

The mucky duck always has the Saints games on

I'm disappointed we didn't beat Arsenal at the Emirates by 2 goals and go top of the premier league after 12 games - that's says it all really - I never thought I'd be saying that just 3 years ago. We didn't play our first 11 and lost to a dodgy penalty and a goal keeping muck up - but we still edged the possession and had 2 more shots. I'm still enjoying it. If we are going to push for a European place this season we do need to strengthen in key areas in January - and I'm sure the club know that whatever they are saying in public

It's been a good day after all!

Got what we deserved with that team selection

I was hoping we were going to try and win thus game with the pay-off of a home game against Chelsea in the next round! More than that I was hoping we were actually going to try and win one the cups this year! We just don't have enough strength in depth to put out a second string against a team like Sunderland and win. I hope we pull it back and prove me wrong.

I was hoping we were going to try and win thus game with the pay-off of a home game against Chelsea in the next round! More than that I was hoping we were actually going to try and win one the cups this year! We just don't have enough strength in depth to put out a second string against a team like Sunderland and win.

Wellbeck works hard but his touch is far more often than not truly terrible Sturridge is one of those Hollywood players - selfish to the core and no where as near as good as he thinks he is. Those two, Smalling, Jones, Cleverley and Milner are only in the England squad because of the clubs they play for - there are better English players out there than them - but it's big club syndrome

They are such an arrogant club - there time has come and gone - I am going to enjoy watching them moan and groan and become the new Liverpool as they decline over the next few seasons

I hear a lot of people getting frustrated with Fox and the fact he makes the same mistake time after time - but I didn't hear anyone booing him near me - maybe the odd groan and a lot of complaining to friends, family and neighbours about his mistakes but that was it. Some of the people on hear really need to get off their high horses.

Why should I be ashamed of myself? I didn't boo him nor did I cheer ironically when he passed the ball to a Saints player - but I'm not going to pretend he's something he's not just because he wears the Saints shirt.

Fox was awful today and it has nothing to do with a lack of confidence - he's making the same basic mistakes he was making in the Championsip - the difference is it only takes a team 15 -20 minutes to worh out he the very weakest link in the premiership whereas in the championship it took 45 minutes. His poisitioning is terrible, he backs off players instead of tackling and other than a long diagonal ball to the front he can't pass. It's terrible that we had to change our entire game plan to protect one player because he's so bad. Did anyone else notice Lovren and Fonte get increasingly more p*ssed off with Fox - and eventually stopped passing to him. It's not like Dyer is that good a team should really need to double up on him. We desperately need another plan B for left back when Shaw is out - the only thing I can think of is playing Yoshida there. As the game went on I found myself getting increasingly angry that we didn't buy a left back in the summer.