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I don't know - say you sell £100 million worth of players and only spend £40 million - and cash in the remaining £60 million as a share buy back and dividends The club will still have a turnover of £80 million from the TV money, match days and commercial stuff - and probably a squad worth £50 - £60 million If you've put in £60 million to the club over 5 years and sell it for £60 million you've still doubled your money The way I see it that what the Liebherrs are doing - getting there money back guaranteed - and then they will either sell and make a very decent profit or milk the club for the premiership cash like Lowe did - until we get relegated - a then they'll cash in on the playing assets, take the parachute money and sell the club for whatever it's worth with a stadium and academy Outside of the big 5 or 6 clubs that is the only way an owner can make money - and we've just proved you can't compete so why try? You need a vanity owner like Chelski or Citeh to compete - but the FFP ruled have made that impossible now anyway

I have to say I am more than a little bit worried about Saints right now. We had no strength in depth last season - and have just lost 5 of our key players - and so far only replaced 2 of them with players unproven in the premier league. I can't see how we'll persuade Schneiderlin to commit to another season at Saints having let all these players go - and we seem unable or unwilling to make players stay if they don't want to - so I'd be surprised if Morgan move to Arsenal this week - and in reality who could blame them. He's asked the club to show ambition and they haven't In effect we've ripped the spine out of last season's team - the only place we have any strength in depth now is central midfield I wouldn't be surprised if Rodriguez and Ramirez follow Osvaldo out of the door this week - and the way we are going Ward-Prowse as well Add to that we all know Sharp, Mayuka, Gazzinaga, Kelvin Davis and Hooiveld are not premier league class and need to be replaced and Targett, Reed, McQueen, Isgrove, Gallagher, Turnbull, McCarthy and Stephens are all unproven and inexperienced so can't be counted on yet. I'm not sure the owners are cashing in - but it's more than possible they are - I think is more likely that it's just down to incompetence, naievity and/or stupidity. Right now are starting 11 looks like a team that will struggle in the premier league: Boruc Clyne. Fonte. Yoshida. Targett. Cork. Wanyama. Davis. Isgrove. Pelle. Tadic. It looks more like a bottom half championship team if I'm honest. We need to sign about 3 players a week for the next three weeks to really stand a chance of staying in the premier league. We desperately needed a right winger, a left back, and another striker before we sold anyone anyway. Now we desperately need a right back and another centreback as well. Forster and Van Dijk from a Celtic would do for starters - as would Guidetti and Castaignos up front. De Vrij and Clasie would be nice as well. And even if we do sign these players there is no guarantee they will make it in the premier league. Tadic and Pelle didn't exactly stand out against Bournemouth - but the no one else that played did either really. To be honest we looked pretty bad against Bournemouth - I was expecting us to win 2 or 3 Nil.

What's the point in having an academy if you're just going to sell all the players. I thought the whole idea of football was to win something not make money by becoming a football factory - obviously I was wrong. Either that or some very very stupid / useless or incompetent people are running the club now. If the Calum Chambers rumours are true we seem to be in a perfect storm - of selling our best players and relying on our youth players to rise to the premier league standard without passing 'experience' on the way'! It reminds of when we sold Bridge and never replaced him because Lowe and Co were taking the money out of the club - and we got relegated. And when we went Dutch with Wotte and Poortvliet and we relied on the kids - we got relegated again. Now it seems we are going double dutch! It seems McCarthy and Stephens will be the right back cover for Clyne. The only problem with that is players like Clyne will be off next as they want to win things - and if we barely have a first 11 and then just a bunch of kids we're not going to win much other than a lot of sympathy. But probably not even that. Katherine Liebherr and/or Krueger do realise we can get relegated right!? I think Koeman is going to have a horrible shock when he realises how hard and how physical - and how competitive the Premier League is. It may not be the best league in the world - but it probably is the most brutal. It takes no prisoners.

I think we're in a little bit of trouble. Pelle was pretty anonymous tonight - I expected him to score against Bournenouth to be honest. We lack pace and creativity.

Top 5? Probably not. Top 10 possibly. You've got Feyenoord and Ajax in Holland. Barca and Bayern. Borussia Dortmund maybe? Sporting Lisbon probably - although they import a lot of Brazilians and Argentinians. and that is just Europe. River Plate in Argentina seem to produce more than their fair share of great players. And I'm sure if you asked Man Utd, Arsenal and Liverpool fans they would say they did although I would disagree with them. Fulham have a great academy at the moment based on our old academy staff - Huw Jennings et Al. I think in the next couple of years if Ward-Prowse, Reed, Targett, Chambers, McQueen, Gallagher, Seagar, Hesketh, Sims and the others live up to their promise then yes we porbably will have.

I'd have thought we'd have been better off signing Timothée Kolodziejczak from Nice for £5 or £6 million. Just as much of a gamble but a lot less money. He's 6ft 2 and can play at left back or centre back. And at only 22 he's a good age and will probably gives us a couple of years before we sell him on at a profit. Another player we were linked to last year was Lucas Mendes at Marseille - a Brazilian who can also play at left back or centre back Rojo would be a sign of intent though

I'd be very surprised if we sign 2 players from Celtic - can't see us signing both Forster and Van Dijk - and of the 2 it is more likely to be Forster and we will have to over pay for him It also sounds like De Vrij and Koeman fell out at Feyenoord so I can't see him signing for us - he'll be off to a Man Utd I expect - and why would Vlaar leave Villa for us - they are arguably a bigger club than us and we're not the up and coming club we were 4 months ago I fully expect Fonte and a Yoshida to be our starting centre backs - with Caulker gone to QPR - and Hooiveod and Turnbull the back up on the bench I'd like to see us sign Guidetti, Castaignos and Redmond up front - but I think that's the level we are looking at - £5-7 million players in the main - a bit of youth pace and with a sell on value in a couple if years I fully expect Sharp and Mayuka to go out on loan I think we've been burnt by signing players like Gaston and Osvaldo - both of whom we'll lose a lot of money on when the leave this summer I'd like us to bring in some of the bright young talent from South America - U21 players from Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Argentina - before another European team beats us to it and their price trebles after a season or two over here - players like Manuel Lanzini and Luciano Vietto - and send them on loan to a club in Holland or Spain if we have to for a year or so. It's how clubs like Porto survive

If anything tomorrow will be the day we sell Lovren

I'm not sure Gaston Ramirez will be back at St Mary's as I expect he will be agitating for a move back to Italy - a bit like Osvaldo. And it's a bit too early to be. Punting od Rodriguez - even if he does stay until January. I also have a feeling we won't be seeing Morgan or Lovren in a Saints shirt again - for pretty much the same reasons - both of them will force through transfers to bigger clubs . Our starting 11 looks pretty weak right now: Tadic. Pelle/Gallagher. Isgrove/McQueen Davis/Reed Wanyama. Cork/Ward-Prowse. Targett. Hooiveld/Yoshida. Fonte. Clyne/Chambers Boruc/Davis We need to bring another 2 if not 3 players this week - and another 2 or 3 the week after if we are going to have a good start this season - and I think we are going to need one. We need at least 1 more left back, another striker with pace and at least one more winger attacking midfielder.

I thought someone said we'd learnt from our mstakes

That's pretty much the kit worn by Monaco most years - and FC Utrechts Hummel kit last year

Advert or no advert the way he has behaved has left a bad taste in the mouth. The way Lallana , Pochettino and Lambert have behaved clearly shows the club can be bullied by the manager, players and another club like Liverpool - and I fully expect Schneiderlin and Lovren to leave in the same way now. Without Sharez Liverpool were no better than us last season - probably worse - but how will you feel when they finish in the top 4 again this season with 3 of our players in their team - whereas we'll be bottom half at best, possibly in a relegation battle unless things change dramatically between now and the start of the season. We will be an embarrassment if 3 of our players end up at Liverpool - and we are already a joke - which club started the World Cup with 3 England players and finished with none? And it could well be all 7 players who went to the World Cup leave us this summer. Never have I cared so little for the England team. With last years squad and manager with a couiple of additions we really could have been contenders this season - for the top 4 and maybe a even a cup. I don't t really care about Lallana winning something with another club - or the fact he'll earn a lot more money when he's probably already earned more money than I'll ever see and I well paid. I wanted him to win something with Saints - and he was probably already the highest paid player the clubs ever had. I hope everythiing comes good - and the players we bring in this summer our better than the ones we are losing - and that we can strengthen the squad over last season as well - and we continue to move forward - and maybe even win something - but right now that looks a very big ask. How foolish do we look now singing that Saints were off to Brazil last season!? And what example does it set for our much heralded academy graduates - the departure of Shaw and Lallana - make the first team, throw your toys out the pram and move on as soon as you can. What's the point of trying to compete? It seems the football world - the press particularly - are determined we can't. I have never seen a team dismantled so thoroughly by the media. Hopefully in a months time when we've signed Tadic, Pelle, Van Dijk, Rojos and Witsel to replace the players we've lost and added Caulker, Rodwell, Ings, Clasie, Martins-Indi, Firminio and De Vrij to give us the depth we need - I feel a whole lot better. And when they all gel spectacularly and we finally win something at the end of next season I'll laugh about all this - but that is very very unlikely isn't it. You have to ask what's the point? Now I know it's not all Lallana's fault - but he is very much part of the problem.

Can we ban him? After all he seems to be acting as little more than an agent for the so called big clubs! Crap England manager as well! I mean what idiot thinks Smalling, Jones, Milner, and Johnson are international class footballers!?

Sounds like Lallana didn't give up his loyalty bonuses too me - hence the reduced cut Bournemouth are getting. They are right ways and wrong ways to leave a club and Lallana has gone about it very badly. He should have kept his mouth shut - instead of leaking stuff to journalists - waited until after the World Cup, handed in a transfer request, said he wanted to play champions league and keep his England place - and lef it at that. At his age we could all of understood that - even if we didn't like it. To be honest I am fairly disappointed with all three of our England boys - Lambert, Lallana and Shaw - all of them should have kept quiet until after he World Cup and waited for their 'big move' to happen when the one is right - Lambert included. Lallana's comments about Liverpool and wanting to play for them last season - and their style fantastic style of play are particularly grating. Without Suarez Saints were arguably a better team than Liverpool - playing pretty much the same way. I hope Liverpool struggle this season once Suarez leaves - and with Gerrard well past his best. But then I never liked them for all the glory hunters at school in the 80s who supported them - then switched to man Utd, arsenal or Chelski. I hope with those three gone that's the end of it - but I have a horrible feeling Morgan and Lovren will follow them out of the club. To add insult to injury we'll probably be stuck with Osvaldo and Gaston too!

Just saying Koeman signed Ever Banega for Valencia from Boca Juniors and John Guidetti on loan from Man Citeh for Feyenrood.

Swansea have said Bony isn't for sale - and he'd probably cost double the £12 million thy paid for him. Luc Castaignos - the player they are signing from Twente for £6.5 million is the kind of player we should be signing. Young international striker with a great expectations of him.

We don't need a direct replacement for Lambert - who's really a second striker - we need a centre forward Luc Castaignos at FC Twente is valued a £4 million supposedly. Alfred Finnbogasson would probably cost us a bit more but he would be another Either Guidetti or Borini would be good to add some strength in depth upfront as well I'd love Romelu Lukaku - but I would guess we could only afford him on loan if at all I'm more worried about how we'd replace Lallana if he left

Moyes and Remi Garde?

Fonte and Clyne are off ax well aren't they Boruc Stephens. Turnbull. Yoshida. Targett. Cork. Reed. Isgrove. McQueen. Rowe. Gallagher

I thnk you might just have stumbled upon a key part of the boards master plan Maybe Pochettino was right to leave Saints

Not that one - they've got a new buyer on the hook

If the club can't keep hold of Pochettino I doubt they have the ambition to buy a good manager out of a contract at another club - so it will be someone who is already out of a job - or at club lower down the leagues The favourites must be Lennon, Petrescu and Oscar Garcia I'd have Adkins back but why would he leave Reading - a club who are just about to be bought by a billionaire - all be it a Chelsea fan What worries me is if Pochettino does go Lallana, Shaw, Schneiderlin and Lovren will almost certainly follow hm out of the door for Champions League football And I imagine Fonte and Cork won't sign new contracts so I expect they'll go as well as the club tries to cash in on them when they still have a year on their contracts Wanyama, Clyne and Rodriguez will probably want out as well - to bigger, better and more ambitious clubs I expect Lennon will want the job - and perhaps his only saving grace is he'll keep Wanyama happy and maybe bring Fraser Forster with him Still it could be worse we could be Norwich I suppose

Is ill be vey disappointed in Liebherr, Pochettino and Krueger if that's true. to Spurs of all clubs - a joke of a football club at the best if times - so what does that make us!? If Katherine Liebherr doesn't even want to keep Saints where they are she should sell the club and move on Letting Pochettino go will Lead to an exodus of our best players - they have all more or less said they will leave

Bad day for football - QPR getting promoted and Real Madrid winning the Champions League. Both clubs proving financial fair play is a joke! I have no love for Derby after the play-off at Pride Park and the way their fans behaved - but I think I detest 'Arry Redknapp more. And don't give me the Bale stuff - he left us for Spurs, for the money and too early - and we got nowhere near enough money for him - plus he's Welsh

That could just as easily be one of the security/access gates at St Mary's - or the new traing ground. Cortese turned everything black, grey and silver fom the old red and white