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Has anyone got a link to this? Maybe a podcast? I could do with a laugh! Haters gonna hate!

Only in terms of his height, he's still a very good attacking fullback. I'd go for Whittingham, Matt Phillips and Neil Danns

You guys all really think this sounds terrible? Best of both worlds in my opinion. I really have time for both versions but the faster one if anything is more galvanising and energetic imo.

Lets be smart; a draw is ok too. Main thing is not to lose. We don't want to go into that Coventry game needing a win to guaruntee it because in a match with nothing riding on it, I can easily see West Ham repeating their performance against Brighton when playing Hull on the final day and a draw being no good.

Unfortunately if you ask anyone who knows a thing or two about psychopaths/sociopaths its that you simply cannot teach or rehabilitate them at all. The part of their brain that deals with conscience, social or moral contract or anything of that nature is simply broken, they're not REALLY human, they're just...a thing. Its sad really. You've just got to lock them up and throw away the key. Anyone of such a nature is extremely dangerous and very liable to murder and commit random acts of violence if they think they can get away with it or if they're not deterred by the threat of punishment. No point debating about any of this and certainly no point trying to use the issue as a political football or paint him as a right-wing extremist to try and balance the books with Islamic terrorism that the left in this country seems to be obsessed with either excusing or making apologies for. Its quite simply nothing of the sort, he's more comparable to a wild animal on the loose than any rational, thinking human.

Those odds are bookies odds specifically designed to give a bad price on something that isn't as likely as a 1/5 shot to happen. Prices at other bookies are 1/4 with as low as 1/3 or so on Betfair.

A good mate of mine's a Cov fan and I really feel desperately sorry for the lad. He loves his club as much as we love Saints. He goes to games, buys the shirts etc. And whilst he's 21 (my age) he's old enough to remember them in the Premiership but unfortunately not old enough to have lived through enough of it himself to get much enjoyment. My pity and sympathy for him equals, or rather exceeds, my pity and sympathy for starving children in the middle of AIDS-ridden Africa, deafblind people and sufferers of muscular dystrophy. In all seriousness though he (and his Man United supporting yet Coventry-following friends) fully expect their club to stagnate in league 1 to just the same extent as they stagnated in the champo, without even a shred of hope for play-offs or anything. Really sad watching their consistently empty stadium on Soccer Saturday. I don't even think they filled it when they drew Chelsea in an FA cup tie a few years back if I remember rightly! They just need to scale down as a club. They'd be much better off as a spirited small team in a tiny but hostile ground (like S****horpe or whoever), but unfortunately things look absolutely dire for them.

I have to say I'd love to see Stoke get relegated. At first it was funny to watch teams like Spurs, Arsenal and Liverpool be undone by long throws and a team who's tactics were just to kick lumps out of them, but the novelty has completely worn off. Their attendances were 12k when they were in mid-table champo nothingness and all of a sudden they've got a load of fans.

I literally agree with everything you've said mate, I'd also add one more thing - they'll never know whats its like to win when being massive, massive underdogs. United fans will never have the rollercoaster ride that we have. But, I just can't help but feel a huge urge for Saints to prove themselves as one of the great clubs in English football that they are. I've had enough of the lower leagues, the novelty has worn off. I want us to be a solid Premiership team with fantastic support getting national attention and us giving the big six a bloody nose now and again. Recently I got into a little facebook argument with a plastic United fan responding to this status of mine: "If I decided right now to become a "fan" of Barcelona and identified myself as a Barcelona fan from this moment forward, it would be no less ridiculous than the overload of Man United plastics on my Facebook congratulating themselves whilst sat on their IQ in front of their computer screen watching Citeh fail at Arsenal. This can also be applied to anyone supporting a big team with a history of success from an area they are neither from nor have any connection to." To which a Man United plastic (living in Surrey, never been to Old Trafford etc.) gave me some kind of snooty response telling me that he was a true fan etc.etc. and that we were somehow "equal" in support of our teams. Gay little facebook wars aside, Hopefully everyone on here will relate: Sure, everyone has every right to take as much joy and sadness from the success or failure of any football team anywhere, that's all well and good. Its just I don't see how you can identify Manchester United as "your" team when you aren't from Manchester/Salford and don't have any connection to the area or community. With no actual tie to the club or city other than a completely arbitrary erm-i'll-pick-that-one choice, I simply don't see why as I say, me supporting Inter Milan for example (I did go to an Inter game once and bought a shirt!) is any different to someone outside of Manchester being a United "fan". The bemused reaction that your average person would give to being told that some English guy was a fan of a club team abroad is exactly the same reaction I have, and make no apologies for having to someone outside of Manchester supporting United. I just neither understand it nor equate it with fans who support their local teams. If you're from an area with no football team and have no family connection to any team whatsoever I can sort of understand it. Incidentally I'm from Balham, South London and not Southampton! But my father/English side of my family (I'm half Polish/English) are all from Southampton and numerous childhood weekends with grandparents were spent down there. I remember I supported Man United until the age of about 8 and even went to see Beckham/Giggs/Schmeichel etc. play at Selhurst Park. It was enjoyable from my young perspective of seeing all these ridiculously famous footballers before my very eyes and I cheered David Beckhams equaliser. However, when I went together with both my father and the largest away following in the history of the Premiership to Selhurst Park in 1999, surrounded by my fellow Saints fans as we beat Wimbledon to complete the greatest relegation survival story ever (having only got 2 points out of our opening 9 matches) Things were different. The feeling of togetherness, brotherhood, unity and belonging that I felt throughout that match was something I simply cannot describe to other people who haven't experienced it. This team, those 11 men, those red and white striped kits, that badge, this club, despite not being very successful at all and having the smallest home ground ever in the Premiership (The Dell) represented me and truly represented the thousands of my brothers and sisters that stood alongside my young shoulders. Even at the age of 8 I could understand that this was not only my football club, but an inescapable part of my identity that I didn't choose anymore than people can choose race or sexuality. Now, as I write this on the eve of yet another away day at Selhurst Park I can honestly say that I wouldn't have it any other way.

We have to go up. I simply can't take the patronising "ah ok" conversation ender when some United/Chelsea/whoever plastic pr*ck asks me what team I support and obviously dismisses bloody ME as the one who isn't a proper football fan. Annoying and sicken though it is, no-one cares about the champo or the lower leagues whatsoever. The title race consumes all the attention week in week out no matter what and the "crisises" that people talk about are teams like Wigan/Blackburn losing 3 on the spin or Liverpool not getting into Europa, rather than whats going on at good, honest teams like Luton town who have been busted down year after year by a football league that washes their hands of them. I just can't take another year of that.

Chaplow and Hammond continuously gave the ball away and did nothing going forward. Proof that the English footballing culture loves a talentless try-hard clogger. We desperately miss Schneiderlin.

Bloody idiot. The guy was having a stinker and couldn't get the ball under control at all.

Bang on the money.

As with any four games of football its possible but unlikely. If Leicester have anything to play for on the penultimate day of the season to go away there and win would be very, very tough.

Disagree, he put a fair few good balls in towards the far post but had no real support. In terms of beating players he had Fox on toast but we could afford to double-team him every time because he was literally their one and only threat. I would imagine its the same with most teams who play Palace so I don't think he'll flourish there. I'd take a gamble on him, reckon we could get him for 4 or 5 million.

Word. For them to fail to go up they'd have to literally fail to even draw against both us and Brum away. Can't for the life of me see them failing to beat Forest/Palace at home.

I actually rated our team very highly and considered failure to go up a chronic underachievement

Define "take a draw". "Take" implies choice. Are we saying something along the lines of - would you take a draw rather than have the option of say...a coinflip for a win/lose outcome? Or are we simply saying would you be pleased/displeased/tolerant of a draw in terms of how you feel afterwards?

Has anyone got a radio link or tv link?

Except that its a major part of the history of the city that our football club represents. Newcastle for example sing about the Blaydon Races all the time. No reason we shouldn't sing Woolston Ferry.

How about we stop singing "Come on you reds" or "Red Army" like every other club that plays in red despite the fact we play in red and white.

Leicester away, especially as it looks like they may make a late play-off charge will be EXTREMELY difficult for West Ham.

You two are adults arguing on an internet forum with people you don't know who know you by nothing better than an anonymous username which one of you is better at football. LMAO

Doyle's a solid, experienced and proven Prem striker. For 4 million he'd be very welcome. Still think Reading in the Premiership will be a better option than us in the champo, so we will need promotion if we're gonna get hold of him

Definitely. A bustling ball of energy in every game I've seen. The kind of player who can actually have a bad game and yet still be effective through sheer drive and determination. The kind of player who even if they give the ball away will fight tooth and nail to win it back. Plus he could play in the centre of midfield as well as on the right wing giving us options. Still, we can completely discount players like him unless we're in the Premiership next season.