Lord Duckhunter

Chump .As the remain chairman Lord Rose says leaving the EU will result in wage increases . That's the exact reason big business oppose it . The supply side of the equation is distorted by freedom of movement . You manage it by having work permits , like hundreds of other countries do .

**** me , you really don't get it do you? It's not about numbers it's about who decides the numbers . The British Government , accountable to the British people , or other nations . The fact that Cameron had to beg the Poles & Bulgarians to change OUR welfare rules , tells you all you need to know about our indipendance . My lad works in Aus , he applied for a work permit . The authorities agreed with his boss that he had the skills they needed and that he wasn't taking an Aussies job , so have granted him an extension . There are hundreds of countries from New Zealand to Canada to The US , that manage immigration without being in the EU . It's really quite pathetic that you think we need Greeks, Latvians & Belgiums to dictate our immigration needs, and that we're incapable of doing so with them holding our hands

The reason we go through this every pre season is because we're successful without paying stupid wages. Therefore our players heads are going to be quite easily turned ( or their agents) by bigger clubs paying more a lot more money . Before anyone starts on about breaking our pay structure or paying more , they need to think it through . If you pay more money to your top players , the general wage level rises as well. Therefore , people like Juanmi & Cedric turn from a punt to a liability. Our method appears to be sign them on lowish wages and give them a rise after they've produced the goods , FF & VvD? Of course the problem with this is when they refuse to extend they're easy to pick off. Personally I hope we have " meltdown " every summer , because it means we've had another great season

I would have thought house prices being lower would be considered a good thing.

You can't really sack the guy for wanting to stick to the original agreement he signed , not when he's delivered us 6th place . At the end of the day 3 years will be a pretty decent length of time in the modern game . The issue comes when managers say they're leaving . Even if Ron has no intention of staying past next season , provided he gives the impression he may do , I don't see it being too much of a problem

It really depends on the kid . I've got 4 and they've all come with me since they're were 5, but have been interested in the actual match at different ages. My youngest is a girl and she enjoyed the pub, the food and the atmosphere , but as soon as we kicked off, wanted to go home. She's 15 now and doesn't bother anymore . The 3 boys now ranging from 29-16 still love the game , but again matured as a fan at different ages . The 16 year old has been able to concentrate , and enjoy the game from about 5 , but the other 2 were 10/11 before they stopped being a bit of a pain . The first couple of seasons were home games only . He started coming away since the Forest relegation game and apart from the odd occasion when he couldn't really see ( due to the standing ) has been fine . He did have the annoying habit of shouting " shoot" any time a Saints player got the ball in their half but other than that he's been fine . Having older brothers obviously got him into it at an early age . My advise would be to take yours to a league and see how he is. If he's not ready for it ,he's not ready for it and I'd leave it for a bit . There's nothing wrong with dipping in and dipping out of it until he's hooked .

We did it over 2 days , Fri & Sat so no problems with pubs shut . We wanted to spread it out rather than rush about on one day . Some bloke worked out the route , but it defo wasn't in order of the board , it was planned to minimise travelling time .

Redmond could be good with some decent coaching , needs to work on his decision making and final ball . Worth a punt , I also like Brady as a squad player. Wouldn't touch Newcastle players , disgraceful attitude from top to bottom . Smashing Spurs by 5 made it even worse . As for Townsend , there's a reason Poch went out of his way to freeze him out . Look what he does with young willing players , but he couldn't wait to get rid

I don't see much difference . Both were desperate to leave . Had Lallana been refused a move , thrown his toys out of the pram but then honoured us with another year before jumping ship , that'd make him a hero would it? People talk about Spurs , the way he's played this season he wouldn't get in their side .

He was a good player for us, but the " how can we ever replace him" & " a Morgan sized hole left in our midfield " type of posts have been OTT since he left . Good player for a Europa league side , squad player at champions league level imo . Throw his toys out of the pram because he couldn't go to Spurs ,there haven't been many in my 45 years of watching who've refused to play ( or not been in the right mind to play) , but he's one of them . So sorry if I don't quite think he's the great others do

I'm all for signing key players onto long term contracts , but they've got to earn it first . He's done absolutely nothing this season to deserve a better deal . Seems to be permanently " establishing" himself. If he was Dutch people would be wondering why we've lumbered ourselves with him for another few years

Perhaps some on this forum will calm down on the Morgan love in . He's got to be the most over rated player on here .

I don't know the answer to that , but I do know that Europeans by and large buy into the EU . This is because their leaders have be honest with them , explain the concept and generally focus on the positives . We are lied to, conned , and treated like plebs . Pro EU politicians never ever praise it, always talk of it needing reform and try to make out its just a trading bloc , with a tiny bit of " shared sovereignty " . That's why this vote will not change a thing , the country will still have suspicious thoughts over it, we'll still be having the same old arguments 40 years from now. This will not be a once and for all decision over our place in the EU , because we're given a version of it that only exists to win a referendum. The Europeans accept it warts and all, our political class don't have the balls to persuade us to.

There's clearly something in this , it's not a made up story or some sort of plot to destabilise our Europa League qualification. The press have gone big on it because somebody credible wants them to and until it becomes clear who that somebody is , nobody will know whether this has legs or not . It could be Ron or his people putting pressure on us to resist selling Vic or Mane . It could be Everton putting pressure on their target to commit , " we have others interested " . It could be Everton distracting people to get their target in under the radar ,or appeasing their fans before the last game by chucking a name into the ring. It could be that Les & CO see this as a way of pushing Ron out the door , with him attracting the flak rather than them . Maybe they don't want constant " will he-wont he " speculation next season . However , it could be that Everton want him and he's interested. Whatever happens , let's hope it's dealt with quickly and without everybody losing their heads and going into meltdown mode . Ron's done a good job, but if he wants to go to Everton , he can **** off as far as I'm concerned . With all the money swimming around in the English game the 7th/8th best team in the country would be able to pick up a pretty decent replacement

I fancied it today , . Once we went 2-1 up they were as flat as **** , most sides would have done them from that position , Had they needed to beat us today , they would have done . I really don't recognise or understand the gloating on here , they were there for the taking and we didn't need to play particularly well to beat them . They were flat , understandably so . Having said that , we got the job done . Long , VvD , Davo , outstanding . Tadic was in and out , Martina a liability, Fonte was dodgy , FF at fault for the goal . Don't get me wrong, I'm chuffed as **** to do them , but let's not get carried away .

Until the plp take the leadership decision away from the membership he hasn't a hope in hell. The party is moving towards becoming a protest movement , with the majority of members unwilling to compromise their principles for power . In some way it's an honourable stance, but whilst we retain FPTP it will lead to constant opposition . To bypass the strict qualifying criteria and gerrymander Corbyn on to the ballot has to be the most ridiculous decision ever, they're now going to compound it by sitting back and letting the Corbynittes change the rules for future contests ensuring that there will always be a leftie put forward to the membership . Meanwhile people like Andy Burnham jump ship & moderate potential candidates choose an alternative career .

Maybe Frank's forgotten he's got it .

Wasn't Brown " real Labour " rather than new Labour? . Hockey and his ilk don't seem to understand the reality of labours situation and seem incapable of understanding basic facts . The further the party move away from New Labour the further they move from the majority of the electorate . Their last non new Labour winner was Harold Wilson , doesn't that tell them something.

Great great achievement, unbelievable that anyone outside of the big 6 could win it , doubely so that it wasn't us , or Stoke or Everton , clubs ghat have flirted with the top 8 , but a club that nearly got relegated . Unbelievable. Had we signed Mirgan , Huth, Allbrighton they'd have been meltdown on here , then replaced Poch with the sacked Greek manager lol . I heard on the radio that the manager negotiating the deal wanted £5mil bonus if they qualified for champions league , I bet that discussion didn't take long , personally if I was the chairman I'd have binned him then and there for taking the ****

You lefties maybe sick with " Blairittes " and New labour policies but the voters aren't . Cameron / Blair there's a ciggie paper between them , Why don't lefties wake up and smell the coffee .

When I wrote " since Blair " I meant post Blair . Basically labour need to accept the voters are to the right of Brown -Corbyn . The only time they've won in nearly 40 years is with a " red Tory" , until they grasp the reasons they're destined for permanent opposition

So in summery , it won't make a blind bit of difference if Liverpool win the Europa league or not . Or am I missing something

What are you , stuck in the 1950's . Most people don't vote tribally nowadays . They're not " life long " supporters of any party . They clearly don't like labour since Blair , until you accept that and change, your party is doomed. Labour seem to think the voters are wrong .

Maybe you're right . Maybe people show their support by voting for another party , or not bothering at all . If only labourites hadn't voted Tory, Ed would be pm now

Hockey's bonkers analysis seems to be that labout have plenty of supporters , but they just vote for someone else when an election comes around