John B

I do not disagree with what you are saying but we are on a continual downward spiral and eventually will be relegated without significant investment I just feel we need to regroup and develop some of our younger players Most relegated teams do well in the Championship

So you reckon it is nothing to do with the lack of investment from Gao regime over the last few years and the Academy not producing any worth while PL players then? It always seems to be the manager fault despite players missing goal scoring chances and defenders and goal keeper making unforced errors. We just do not seem to have enough quality PL players so lets sack the manager and get in someone with little topclass experienceto play a system which has not proved to be successful before This at the moment does not seems not be a very good strategy. Over the last few years we have lost Forster Bertrand Romeu Ings Redmond Stephens PEH Cedric Bednerak Vestegard and loads of Academy players. With their replacements apart from KWP who have proved to be not much better and to continue to make errors whilst other clubs like Brighton Crystal Palace and Brentford have become recruited better players We seem now to be in a group with Nottm Forest Bournemouth Wolves Leeds Everton and possibly West Ham fighting for survival. Wolves seem to be addressing their problems and I expect the other three will do so with more investment and experienced managers like Aston Villa have done As a club we seem to be at our best when we have a number of home produced players in the squad and playing a full part but not these days

I dont see many games these days but we played well against Man U at home and were unlucky to lose as my Man U friend said.

I was quite surprised how so many of the forum were in support of SR I must admit I was sceptical of their approach and did and always think for the club to prosper is to have an owner with deep pockets and the will to sign proven PL standard players. I have been following the Saints for ages but this squad of ours today is pretty ropey containing International players of repute who I have watched over the last sixty years. Football in the PL is big business and some of the best players in the world play in it and all we can offer is JWP who would not be one of the better midfield players I have seen in a Saints shirt and a lot of young players who maybe PL standard players in the future but are not at the moment

We did not have any decent attacking players to replace Edozie That is why we are where we are at the moment because we lack goals. Who was going to come on and suddenly change the momentum of the game Stu A came on did OK but nothing great We just do not have players like Mane Llalana or MLT to bring on to increase the tempo we had Mara and A Armstrong. We were level away from home needing every point we can get so the obvious thing was to make sure we came away with a point just like Everton and Leeds did But the defence had other ideas we were lucky not to lose 3 1

I agree but we are not any good at defending either We should have finished 1 1

I do not think the manager did much wrong today 1 1 would have been a decent result

But the likes of Ramos Broja and Gapko did not want to come here I would have thought

I agree the only way for success in the PL is to have rich owners who want to invest to succeed In general we have not had owners with large amount of money to invest we did have Markhus but his investment in players was not that high really was it

The last two times we went down we came back stronger and we went to Wembley and won two cups cups. I always wanted to watch Hartlepool United as a boy as they were crap and I did eventually when we played the in League 1 You will enjoy some good wins with lots of goals

Got us back in four years and won the FA cup after 2 years but we did have some decent players

Ralph was an ideal fit for Saints and he proved that during his time here He did not run out of ideas as he constantly tried different combinations he was undone and so will Jones be a lack of investment in quality PL It is unsurprising we find ourselves at the bottom of the PL with the squad we have now if we had replacements PEH Bertrand Forster Redmond Romeu Ings playing their best we no doubt be in a better position as well as Armstrong JWP and KWP playing as they once did

It amazes me that after recruiting young but promising goalkeepers over the last 15 years with none showing they were good enough for the PL we then bought GB with the same outcome at the moment. For the PL you need experienced GKs like Niemmi Boruc Forster even Kelvin was better than Bazuna and sometimes quite inspired

Luckily my family came to lunch I did watch 2 or 3 mins at the start of the game where no Saint had control of the ball and did not watch anymore. My nehew who is at Southampton Uni was quite positive about the result as he thinks tickets will be cheaper next season and he can watch more games

Merry Christmas and lets hope this dreadful year with regards to Saints results ends positively I have been watching Saints since Derek Reeves was centre forward and apart from the time we were in financial difficulty under Wilde/Lowe this has been the most depressing time I have had

I think you may well be right but we have had some success with recruiting decent PL players too Bertrand Romeu Ings KWP Cork spring to mind We have been successful in recruiting genuine international players from Scotland such Forster Davis VVD and Wanyama spring to mind

Of course I must be a knob reading mostly drivel on here for the last 15 years but SFC has been part of my life for over 60 years

Most are young lads who need encouragement not misinformed nonsense from knobs on here

Well Jones is a Welsh name so all should happy then

Do think Boufal/Ramirez/Gakpo/Ramos types are likely to want to come here and get verbally abused on this Forum when things go wrong

The squad and Southgate have been a credit to our country and should be congratulated for what they achieved It is very difficult to win a QF in the world cup If the referee is incompetent the opposition team continually foul but score two pretty spectacular goals and you miss a penalty against a really top class experienced team

Thats football you need the 'rub of the green' which we did not have

Not the first for me but in 1966 I was convinced we would win. But earlier in the year I was far from convinced I would see First Division football at the Dell but we did thanks mainly to Terry Paine and Martin Chivers with Paine being involved with the World Cup

I would have thought that we would have recruited a proven PL type goal scorer by now if there were any available and they wanted to come to SFC I just think we are fucked and will be relegated

Unsurprising really as he has no experience of the PL or a higher class of player