Saint Fan CaM

No I don't go there - and if I did to be fair, I would not mind standing as I like the atmosphere it generates. However, not everyone wants to stand. So, perhaps there should be a petition raised by someone like the thread starter to lobby the club to introduce a standing area? It might see some success, who knows. But to kick the club for controls that have been progressively introduced by law due to some of the terrible scenes of death and injury at football stadiums in the past, is not being mature or reasonable IMHO.

Stupid comment - you use the steps as a legitimate thoroughfare and so are standing anyway. Why do you pay for insurance? To cover you in the event of an emergency...but until you need to use it, you don't need it - right? With H&S legislation its the same principle for the Club - they need to demonstrate due care otherwise some wally will fall over, potentially hurt others and wind up with a lawsuit. If some lumbering drunken oaf fell on your child/friend/relative causing injury, you'd be up in arms I'm sure. The trouble with all this kind of stuff is that there are always a minority of idiots that will spoil it for everyone else. There are several horrific accidents that have happened at football stadiums - are you too young to remember them? Perhaps we should go back to the days of Hillsborough eh? Stadium regulations and health and safety controls are there for a purpose, lets not forget that.

I take it that is a serious comment as there's no 'winky'? Shall I spell it out for you? The 'dangerous highways' are not inside the ground and therefore no responsibility for the club to uphold the law....can't believe I've just had to explain that!

See above post...

Collectively...Poortvliet, Pearson, Burley, Harry & Jim, Bassett & Wise, Dodd & Gorman, Sturrock, Wigley, Strachan. Missed anyone?

A voice of reason...at last.

Oh dear, I'm afraid I do know what I'm talking about 'mate'. If there were no seats in the way, it would be much less of an issue. The fact is the seats present a very clear H&S risk for standing - i.e. if someone was to topple over one and take out people in front domino fashion. I have seen idiots fueled by alchohol topple and fall down the steps in the Northam on more than one occasion, so don't tell me it can't happen. I suspect if you were badly injured you'd be one of the first to bring a lawsuit against the club.

How this is supposed to be of any purpose whatsoever, other than ingratiating onself with a few Northam supporters that post on here? Standing in a seated area is dangerous not just to yourself but to others too. When will you start to realise its the law, not the club that you need to have an argument with? Jeez.

Well thats two mistakes then - 1st the sneaky illegal fag and then coming on here expecting sympathy. Pathetic.

Thats the key fact - 4 wins and a draw from 8 games when we cannot score against poor opposition. Unfortunately the writing was on the wall several months ago...Wotte putting two up front helped, but he still persists with the diamond at home and THAT limits the teams ability to dominate the midfield and get good balls to feet in attack. We are down people. That could also mean administration and if Lowe tries to hold on this season that could mean a very rough ride in league one, in turn leading to TWO seasons (or more) in that league. The next 8 games are probably the most important in the recent history of the club and yet look at who is in custody at this most important time...it ain't looking too good is it?

I reckon James was told to get a card in the game to ensure his suspension was out of the way for the run in. The challenge he made was not necessary (by the centre line) and somewhat out of character. Then we had Jake T come into the side from out of the wilderness and I thought, hang-on I think we're seeing our new RB here! Interesting actually, I think JT could be a better RB than James potentially as he has more pace and had proven he can get to the byline and put in a good cross (his style reminds me a little of Walcott). What is unknown is how good he is defensively - can he put a boot in where it hurts?

Stupid idea written by a stupid man. That's all.

Stuggling badly here...sorry.

I have a horrible feeling that this is the game we will look back on and say "thats the game that sent us down". Head : Saints 1 - QPR 3 Heart : Saints 2 - QPR 1 I pray that the lads come out fighting today and Blackstock has a mare.

Yes, but an interesting number of similarities don't you think? They had to work with a "play the youth policy" when they couldn't pay the senior players. Gates dropped - income dropped...etc. I thought what a sad state they're in and then realised how close we must be to their fate. We may have bigger revenue, but we've got much larger debts too.

Surely for all the "6-pointers" for our rele-rivals, it would be better for it to be a draw so they each just get 1 point. Mind you, that's only good if we're winning.

Did anyone see the TV program "Inside Out" last night on Weymouth FC and their fight for survival? I think there were property developers involved at some stage that bought into the club because there was potential with the land around the stadium. Anyway, it was interesting to hear they adopted a "youth policy" when they no longer had money to pay their senior players - the youths were highly pleased to be given the chance finally to play for the 1st team, but the results went dramatically downhill. Gates dwindled thus plummetting the club into deeper financial turmoil. Now where have I heard that story before...it does sound remarkably familiar does it not? Saints must be close to going under - the gates cannot possibly support the overheads - there's a firesale of everything not bolted down (BOGOF in the shop) - the stadium debt is crippling....etc. etc. The only thing I really hope for now is that there is someone out there waiting with their money for admin to occur so they can buy the club and not need to worry about 1,000's of shareholders to placate. I still find it hard to believe one man has masterminded the collapse of a PLC in such a short period of time...

I can confirm these facts.

Blimey, if he invested £50 in Saints it would be £50 more than Lowe or Wilde.

You need to read a little more carefully my friend - I did not state ALL Dutch guys - just the two that we've had the misfortune to endure at SMS. It's pretty clear what I meant - why are you so intent on baiting instead of discussing the subject properly?

Defining moment? Wotte taking off Surman and replacing him with Wotton. We needed to press home the 1-0 advantage and defend from the front - putting on Wotton told the team to defend deep effectively and it almost cost us the game. Inept managerial decision once again.

Agreed. And do you not agree also that it was a bit strange - no stupid - playing for a 1-0 win by bringing on Wotton when we had them on the back-foot? For me that decision almost lost us the game and once again gives me some doubt over the tactical nouse these Dutch guys have.

Lets hope he's right - Saturday will be a telling game that may well determine the fate of the club. QPR lost last night - it's the right time to put in a top performance - anything else and I feel we're definately done for as even a draw with other teams around us winning will leave too much to do. Saturday really is last chance time.

I have mentioned on here many times that I will not be renewing my ST via March Madness as a protest against Lowe's mismanagement, but then the club have not offered it so we'll see. I am certain that I will not renew if we look likely to go down - to do so would be effectively supporting Lowe and Wilde, sanctioning their continued positions in the face of abject failure. A bit like paying bankers massive retirement pensions for failure. I might decide to buy a seat when I feel the need, but I think I might find myself not missing it TBH.

Just don't think we have any chance whatsoever of bringing in new players, whether or not we need them. Frankly, if Euell and Saga can stay fit, I think we've got enough about the squad to do a job. I actually do not think that the standard of player we could AFFORD would bring anything better to the team. I would say keep the squad tight and hungry - success will breed a spirit of WANTING to play and stay away from injury by playing smarter. Bringing in new players now might endanger the team spirit that seems to be pretty good at the moment TBH.