beatlesaint

I think you are right...but I am looking at it with hindsight now and of course that is always right.

The interesting thing is, if we are taken over and dont go out of business then whatever the League problems that Pinnacle talk about will come out.....or if they dont exist we will know, as will MLT, that a few porkies have been told. Be interesting to see what happens IF we get a buyer.

I think in fairness, although I too have been alarmed at some of the abuse dished out on this forum, a lot of this is an excuse. Do you really believe a businessman who saw this as a long term investment to return the club to past glories would walk away cos of a bit of name calling etc by people hiding behind an IP address who had no knowledge of any facts surrounding them ? Christ, what would they have done if we had lost every game up to the end of November and there were demos outside St Marys after a game ??? They kept on about their longterm plan....Premier league in 5 years.....yet we are now to believe that a short term problem, possibly a further deduction of points, has ended that plan ? On come on, no, no, no !

are you now in a position to post what you were gonna wait 36 hours to post about TL and Co then FF ?

Hang on, wasn't it AFTER the period of exclusivity was given that the main money man got cold feet and walked? In which case how would Leon Crouch have known he was going to do that ?

More or less yeah, but dont let facts get in the way of people spouting a load of ********

Yeah absolutely, serve him right, after all he only has done his best to save the club and keep it going so he deserves to lose a lot of money doesnt he ? you *****.

the cynic in me suggests he hasnt got any

I really dont care to be honest.....come on then NickG !!!

Is Andy Murray winning ?

Come on then Tony....time for an update me thinks !! (i do hope you havent made the fatal mistake of taking MLT for a ride !! )

I would agree totally with that.

Its supposedly for 2 years which appears to be a bone of contention with Pinnacle

No, not at all, it just means FF is playing his merchant of doom role again

They would definitely have to agree to the suitability of the proposed board members at the very least so, and I may be wrong, but as I see it Pinnacle would only lose it IF they pull out of their own accord, bearing in mind MLT's comments about accepting the -10 points to get the deal done. Pinnacle are still in the driving seat as they have been cleared by the FL et al !!

In fairness you know as much as the rest of us about the Swiss.......ZILCH ! So how can you decide ? You have the choice of buying one of two houses in the same road in the same town but you decide not to take a look at either of them. How do you decide which one you want then ?

Until the deal is signed, sealed and delivered it is hard to say wether Pinnacle are/were all hot air and bluster or wether they are the real deal. If you just look at the facts, not the in depth analysis of "if, buts and maybes" that have gone on on this forum they are thus - The administrator has declared that Pinnacle have the funds to complete the deal and were announced preferred bidder. The administrator stated at the end of the exclustivity period that the money was in place and the only hold up was the business with the FL. the deal has been delayed whilst Pinnacle battle with the FL over what is in the best interests of their purcahse - Southampton Football Club. This has involved much legal to-ing and fro-ing between lawyers. That is it - simple as and everything else has been conjecture with the exception of the new owners appearence on Sky Sports News last Thursday (owner, singular but not necissarily only money man hence the word consortium). And even that was to have him expalin the delay. To write off a consortium and their representatives whose only crime, **** me, is to buy and therefore rescue our club from oblivion without knowing the full facts is scandalous. If they do fail to complete and pull out then fine, let the fireworks and accusations commence cos we will have all been let down, MLT included - probably more so - but until then.....wind ya bloody necks in

Amongst all the nonsense and rubbish posted on here in the last few days these 5 words trump the lot !!! And its from a new member who only joined this month ................can i smell a small rodent here ?

I thought dustbin lid was poor ****ney rhyming slang for kid....never considered it racist. Trivia Corner - in a song called The Other Me on Paul McCartney's Pipes Of Peace album from 1983 he sings a line "and i acted like a dustbin lid" - ie kid. If Macca wasnt accused of racism then in fairness niether should GM

They wont, i agree tho, some of the theories and suggestions on here for the past few days has been mind blowing. I know we have all been worrying and doubting things in the past week as this has dragged on much longer than expected but that is no excuse for some of the scandalous suggestions and accusationsmade on here. Debate yeah, thats great, but string people up by their goolies then hang them out to dry is disgraceful......especially when a little thing like truth and facts are not known !

we will start with A (-10) no more, no less, IMHO.

Mark Fry confirmed 19 June that the money and everything was in place, the delay was the FL business, so it should be safe to say they colour of the money is already known

It was, apparently, but i fear we have moved on from there....and not in a good way

No offence Duncan because I do enjoy your posts but you do have the ability to make a drama out of a crisis sometimes dont you ? If Fry was doing that then why would there have been "very detailed discussions" (in Fry's words) ? Why would the Swiss reps have flown over last Wednesday for talks that had obviously began last weekend ? If the situation had been as you suggest he could have just faxed them the documents or had them sent by courier with a note "this is the agreement, no time to change anything,are you interested, if so please sign here" !! Ok thats a bit simplistic but you get the drift. Whatever your opinion of Fry he is here to sell the Football Club and to think or suggest that he will "scupper our one chance of survival" as you put it by being pig headed is a tad melodramatic and naieve. Besides most of that agreement, money wise anyway, has already been agreed with the Creditors and i thought back along we were told that Pinnacle were not offering the most but were in the best interests of the club. Given that the Swiss will be presumably paying less than they expected to !

Well i mentioned the European Court of Human Rights if everything else fails in an earlier post and it was knocked back by the so called experts on here. But if you think about it how many people is the actions of the FL affecting ? The supporters yes, the players who may have to up sticks and leave against their will (Kelvin anyway) - yes....but most of all the ladies and gentlemen who work for SFC and have not been paid !! If you take Pinnacle's/Tony's stance as being true and accurate then the Football League's blackmail is impacting on many many people and is wholly illegal......blackmail is illegal in all of Europe too you know !! The ECHR are not gonna give a flying **** about who the FL think they are, it is a flagrant breach of the law and there is nothing to say the Swiss outfit will not beat Pinnacle to the punch and then they take legal action against the League. A blue chip company worth billions against a bunch of old codgers who make uo their own rules ? No contest !!