Sergei Gotsmanov

I expect this is well known but I did not know and now have a Spanish team to follow. http://outsidewrite.co.uk/clubs-got-colours-2-athletic-bilbao/

Well you asked the question and then failed to reply so you can read into it how you want. Anyway Shurlock I am opting out here. You can call me what you want but the way you style your debate on here provides plenty of insight into you.

I pointed out to you on your request why people perceive the EU as being a dictatorship and you opted not to contest it. I also explained what the of a report on the positive impact of immigration on the UK - the one written by the John Van Reenen who it turned out worked for the EU commission. You asked for an answer and did not contest that either.

You either have a free trade deal or you don't. The EU quickly recognised that the only way they can hit us without hurting their trade would be through a Brexit bill and that is why it is the main theme. We will have a lot more flexibility to do our own deals. We are quite a big economy and people really will want to speak to us.

You've opted not to contest what I have said though. That would of course not be the first time.

How long can 27 countries all with different objectives from the negotiations stay united? They are all united on the fact that we should pay out a large exit bill - that must have taken some effort! I am afraid I am going to give up trying to tell you that the EU is not going to compromise its trade with us because it will hurt them as well.

No but nor do the people who suggest there were 'shy leavers' I pointed out that the reason this got bandied about was to excuse the pollsters. I also pointed out that the Leave voters in the referendum were akin to Yes voters in Scotland and were more likely to go on about how great it would be to be out but on the day would vote to stay. This happened in Scotland.

The UK is the single biggest Export market for goods in the world for the EU with a surplus of £60bn. Do you really believe that it is as simple as the EU turning up to the negotiations saying your business means more to you than it does to us. Virtually every market has a surplus with the UK - Germany's was 25billion in 2015 and no market will want to see that surplus diluted. It would be enough to put the Eurozone back into recession for a sustained period. Will they risk that? Of course they recognise that and that is why the only thing they can come up with is a £50bn leaving bill. Created on the back of a fag packet it is just a figure used to scare other countries from leaving. It is in everybody's interest to sort out a deal before our economy and Europe's is seriously damaged.

You are being a little naïve again Shurlock. The pollsters always blame 'shy voters' when they get it wrong. Leave voters like Yes voters are certainly not shy.

I expect they will be lobbying too. What rhetoric would you expect to be coming out of the EU? Do you think that you lost the referendum because of the manner that the EU argument was put across?

Well this one was the night before the vote http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-news-poll-polling-exit-live-updates-brexit-vote-leave-remain-who-will-win-a7098521.html

Was there a taboo to say that you were voting out? It is not like the shy Tories.

and you do not think that German business will not be lobbying behind the scenes for a smooth transition. What about the French wine industry how do you think they are going to respond to a slump in UK sales. I expect the Greeks are going to really approve of the EU making it harder for us to holiday there. Danish pig producers have already been hit hard by the slump in the pound in their biggest market. You are very naïve if you think that they are all going to let their economic interests get ignored by the EU in the name of the great project.

I wonder if You Gov asked the same people it asked when it got its poll wrong before the referendum!

I am not sure that he helps his cause by interfering in UK elections. That is one of the reasons people voted out. I would expect a career politician like him would be able to appreciate why May called an election. A landslide would demonstrate a relatively unified front during the negotiations. It would ensure that she will no longer have a majority of just 17 forcing her to make deals to keep negotiations on track. Thirdly with negotiations set to end in 2019 the EU will not be able to use the an election in 2020 as a tool in their negotiations. He would also be pretty stupid to advocate sabotaging the tourist industries of Spain, Portugal, Greece, Italy and France by making it harder for people to travel to their holiday resorts. Punishing us may not be something that he admits publicly to but the behaviour over Gibraltar really showed the EU's true colours. The people of Gibraltar rewarded for voting 96% in favour of staying in, threatened or should I say bullied by being told that against their right to determination Spain will determine their future. Like many I was anxious when we first voted out but every time a high profile EU bureaucrat opens their mouth I am reassured we did the right thing.

I thought we played good football under him.

Totally agree. Tadic's vision and Longs pace. It might even be the making of Boufal.

Yoshida was fantastic as far as I could see on Saturday.

I hope you are wrong and that the early stages are just posturing from the EU (and indeed ourselves) particularly with key elections coming up. Behind the scenes whether the remain camp can appreciate it or not, there will be frantic lobbying by those that will be directly affected. Take the French wine industry, they will already have been hit very hard by the drop in the pound. What will happen if they put tariffs on top? - we will just drink more new world wine. We are told that the German carmakers will not make a difference but surely they will be having a quiet word - we will just drive British produced cars. The Danish pig farmers will also already have been hit by the fall in the pound - look in the supermarkets and a year ago and your pork chops would be Danish now they are already British. The list goes on and on and this factor should not be understated. It cannot be denied that we will gain more financially from tariffs because we import a lot more to the EU than we export. Ultimately we will all lose out. The worry is that the federalist fanatics in the commission will push for principle and not pragmatism. These are the same people that gambled in the negotiations with Cameron and gave him nothing to go back to us with - they are the ones who are really culpable for the leave vote. All they needed to do was allow us to change benefit rules and acknowledge that free movement of labour only works when wage per capita is aligned. Hopefully common sense will prevail and negotiations will be driven by those that will have their livelihoods impacted but don't think that Juncker will have any less to spend on Brandy if it turns nasty. Everyone else will lose out.

I think I pointed out that the poll did refer to just 2015 voters who had already shifted to UKIP. I think the stats you quote are still valid because they indicate that more Labour voters than might have been expected in labour heartlands voted leave. I think this is why the pollsters got caught out - you cannot poll 1500 people and not make assumptions. You could get 7 to 1 on a leave vote on the day of the referendum; it was that reason I voted out because I was inclined to the status quo but assuming a stay vote I indulged myself in a vote against the EU which I think is deeply flawed.

I don't think your figures take into account those voters that had migrated from Labour to UKIP at the last election. Everyone had assumed that UKIP voters were Blazer wearing Golf Club Tories, including Cameron which is why he tried to win them back with a referendum. One of the stories of 2015's election was the defection of the traditional Labour vote to UKIP. If you count these former Labour supporters then I would believe that your numbers would look very different.

I would suggest that this man was a madman, in the same mould as somebody in the States who goes berserk and shoots his work colleagues. That is why it was impossible to prevent this attack. He just aligned himself to the Muslim faith. There certainly appear to be no video of him proclaiming his intentions with an ISIS flag and a copy of the Koran. You are far better qualified to speak on this issue than me but I do take issue with the idea of banning people from wearing the headscarf. I am not on the liberal left but I hate the idea of banning the headscarf. Maybe for teachers or those in court but it sends out all the wrong messages. If you allow somebody to settle here you should respect there customs and traditions and not tell them how to dress. It is a repressive step and goes against British values.

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So the only people that buy newspapers at the BBC are the news rooms - is that what you are saying? Your people skills continue to struggle don't they.

We are talking about hard copy not online and anyway do you think that the Daily Mail (I assume that this is the most popular) gets more views than the Guardian at the BBC?