OldNick

To be fair in those days there wasnt the internet or so places to get the info. Shurlock you may well understand the undercurrent of the wording but I suspect the majority who were voting still had the memories of WWII ( it was only 30 years pre this time, the Falklands is further back to us now, 12 years after forthe initial treaty) and the wording is soft. It was done to deceive, if they had worded it in laymans terms the vote would have been different. The academics and politicians wanted it to happen and so joined in with the game imo

Perhaps but I still feel we will get 2 mores points than Cardiff after the next 12 games, do you feel the same about getting 3 more points than Barnsley or 10 more than Luton. I think you were 9 points clear at the top a few weeks ago Mack. Oh I forgot about Sunderland behind you with 2 games in hand

I thought these were not enforceable, if you respond you are likely to pay. Im sure Martin Lewis had something on his site about these tickets.

Please tell how we fans could have got rid of Les? Did you fight your way to the directors box to challenge him, did you wait in the car park to meet him to give him your views? Nope you sat behind the computer telling others what they should do. I have total distaste for Les reed and feel sickened he has now a good job at the FA but know Im powerless to affect the goings on at a multi million pound business. Iam one of the foolish victims who stupidly follow a business that cynically uses the city of my birth as its name to play at my loyalties.

its always nice to get appreciation from Mother Teresa

Lol Ron, yep I did and still do. We wouldn't be where we are now if we kept our nerve. Anyway I like RH and hope the fans don't turn on him as quick. Funniy enough Ralph has to cope with a forward line who are not that good

I wonder if you don't get the sense that the club is short of money like |I do. We are cutting budgets everywhere and Iam concerned that there is an underlying financial problem brewing. Les employed 3 managers who were paid of, perhaps 10-15m add to that the purchases of deadwood who are out on loan on big wages. The actions were perhaps not only to trim the squad but also to get our costs down. RH seemed to have steadied the boat and felt we could cope without Cedric and the failing Gabbi. The tragedy has inspired Cardiff to winn 2 in a row, we now have to gain 2 more points than them in the next 12 games. Frankly if we cant then we get what we deserve. Some of the fans thought Puels team wasn't good enough for them, well its not time to turn on the 4th manager in a row, as if we do it says more about us than the club itself

all the England fans who do the dambusters stuff, thousands died with that raid. Sala has got them more points due to his tragedy than if he had played. Look at the deaths register in Southampton every week and you see more tragedy than this event, young kids who never have had a life pass away. It seems we all trip over ourselves to show people that we really are nice.The 2 fans made a misjudgement, Im sure they regret it now. I own up to singing the how many lived and how many doed song with hundreds of others when standing under the east stand by the \United fans, I see how bad that was now, but then I was young and stupid. I also recall songs sung to Ossie Ardiles about his cousin who died at the Falklands. It was 2 fans , the media just need a story and they don't care whose life they mess up. Sanitisation of society, is underway, 20-30 years time I do wonder that meat eaters will be picked out as being the ogres of society.

Yeah and I read on here that Hoj should be first name on the teamsheet and then today apparently he was rubbish. Cardiff came and did a job on us, I didn't have a good feel about today as all the planets seemed to be lining up against us. We have made a simple job harder but we need to stick together . Cardiff have a united cause due to the tragic event, that will fade and they have now a lot of goodwill from the neutrals wanting them to stay up on the back of this.

Accumilation of points over a period of time will get the job done. 3pts against Cardiff are the same as 3pts against Arsenal. Yes it is a terrible result but as I feel confident that over 12 games I fully expect to get more points than Cardiff in that period. If we don't then we deserve to go down.

exactly

Probably ****s on here were going to blame him, people sit in the background waiting to have a pop at him again once things are not going right

have you got a mirror in your house? Take Redmond off and play with 10 men lol

Burnley were never going to go down, Brighton slipping into our mire might be a good thing

I think this thread sums up what a poor lot of fans we are.

I am trying to come to terms with thinking over a 12 game period are we going to get 1 or more points than Cardiff. Whilst today loses me some confidence in that, but I still think we will. Finishing 8th under Puel wasnt so bad was it lol. The little bits I here from the club tell me we have no money and tbudgets are being cut left right and centre. 'Trust in Les' leaving us wit Forster 80k pw CA 60-70kPw Boufal 50K Pw Eli 40K pw Carillo 40k pw etc etc etc thats where our transfer kitty is

It is sad but Sala has earned them more points than if he had played

People voted to take back control of our laws, our borders and our money. Whether it was one, or all of those things that persuaded somebody to vote to leave the EU, is up to them. But nothing could be more pointless than arguing about the semantics of the debate which concluded well over two years ago with the referendum result, when we are now under 50 days away from leaving, with or without a deal.Wes I dont think they did. I think that most didnt really have much knowledge of what it entailed. They were too interested in Celebrity Love island and EastEnders to research. The 350m to the NHS, the Africans being washed up on the beaches of Italy where it seemed it would never end (on BBC news every night leading up to the vote, then not at all after the referendum the reports stopped) Taking back control of our borders means passport booths and the extra time getting to and from Europe, how can that be good? I remember when we had border control pre the open ones and we were getting loads of illegal immigrants then. The leavers have done untol damage to our nation, which is the irony as they thought they were saving it.

so that means there will be a minutes silence etc etc. All gives a depressing feel to a game.

Probably my bad wording, more likely to wave the Union Jack, I suppose

That is the irony of all this, people who voted out are I believe more patriotic and nationalist, but their vote is what is going to tear apart what they worship

Apparently the news are reporting that over a trillion has left the UK in the last 6months!! The damage this is doing to our nation due to Brexit. It seems that for our financial services to get a licence to trade in the Eu have to transfer their assets there. Frankfurt is stripping us bare. What a death by a 1000 cuts. Self harm of a nation

You dont think that Liverpool for generations haven't had millions put in to put them where they are? The same goes for all the top clubs. Year on year they have spent more than all the others and so they have grown stronger. None of theirs has been jumpers for goalposts either. I dont know how long you have been watching football but in the 50+ years Ive devoted my spare tine to the game I have seen the gap get bigger and bigger

If I saw a crime committed and am asked to describe the assailant do I say he was wearing a coat or a white coat to help find the perpetrator. Surely we are programmed to notice the main things that would help to narrow the suspect down. We notice tall/short/ skin colour/ fat/thin/ hair tone etc etc. Is that racism??