bigdavewatson Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Although I love MLT and appreciate TL's efforts, I cant get away from the inescapable fact that neither of them have: a) got any experience whatsoever of the procurement of a football club b) got any experience whatsoever of the running of a football club I have spoken to two billionaires about this (seriously) and they have both aked me the same questions when I have asked (genuinely) if they would be interested in me buying a football club and running it on their behalf. They asked me if I had either of a) or b) before politely declining my kind offer. I have read a lot of reports and posts, but I am a bit confused!!??? So: 1) Did MLT introduce the money man to TL? 2) Did TL have the relationship with the money man and approach MLT? Any ideas?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Not many people have either a) or b) though do they to be fair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exit2 Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 1) Did MLT introduce the money man to TL? 2) Did TL have the relationship with the money man and approach MLT? As I understand 1. NO 2. YES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 TL has stayed he was approached so 2 would make sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Not many people have either a) or b) though do they to be fair? I've run a couple of teams in the City of Southampton Sunday Football League. Will I do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 This is a good point. Yes, MLT is a legend and I'd love for him to be involved with the club, but what credentials does he have to be a chairman of a football club? What business acumen does he have? I'm not saying he has none, I'm just asking. We all know he's a pretty laid back guy, but is that's what's needed in the boardroom? I think I'd rather have him as a director of football so that he can get involved with the squad side of things; players to buy etc etc. We've had chairman sticking there noses into on-the-pitch affairs before and it doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Although I love MLT and appreciate TL's efforts, I cant get away from the inescapable fact that neither of them have: a) got any experience whatsoever of the procurement of a football club b) got any experience whatsoever of the running of a football club I have spoken to two billionaires about this (seriously) and they have both aked me the same questions when I have asked (genuinely) if they would be interested in me buying a football club and running it on their behalf. They asked me if I had either of a) or b) before politely declining my kind offer. I have read a lot of reports and posts, but I am a bit confused!!??? So: 1) Did MLT introduce the money man to TL? 2) Did TL have the relationship with the money man and approach MLT? Any ideas??Big Dave, I doubt it was because you hadnt done so that they declined, I expect they were too bright as you couod easily have found some one who had. PS Did they watch you in the Forum game and that put them off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 I have spoken to two billionaires about this (seriously) and they have both aked me the same questions when I have asked (genuinely) if they would be interested in me buying a football club and running it on their behalf. They asked me if I had either of a) or b) before politely declining my kind offer. Couldn't you have put them in touch with someone connected with the club who does have the requisite experience? Given these billionaires didn't turn your invitation down unconditionally seems a bit of a missed opportunity?! Who knows, you could have become the next middleman we all praise to the hills on here...!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 What experience did Niall Quinn have before becoming chairman of Sunderland? (genuine question as I've no idea) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 How do you get either a or b, without starting with a and learning b? How many people are born with both? Everyone has to start somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 I suspect that MLT will be Chairman of the Football Club and responsible for that part of the business. TL or A.N. Other will be CEO for the business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Although I love MLT and appreciate TL's efforts, I cant get away from the inescapable fact that neither of them have: a) got any experience whatsoever of the procurement of a football club b) got any experience whatsoever of the running of a football club I have spoken to two billionaires about this (seriously) and they have both aked me the same questions when I have asked (genuinely) if they would be interested in me buying a football club and running it on their behalf. They asked me if I had either of a) or b) before politely declining my kind offer. I have read a lot of reports and posts, but I am a bit confused!!??? So: 1) Did MLT introduce the money man to TL? 2) Did TL have the relationship with the money man and approach MLT? Any ideas?? Rupert Lowe, Michael Wilde, Leon Crouch can all claim b) Do you think they might get the gig? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappers Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Bigdavewatson... If either of these two contacts were interested, I can put you in touch with someone who has a) and b) and a lot more......also I am sure he would be very, very interested in taking on the role. What do you think ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
master Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Blimey. Give the poor guy a chance FFS. I'm sure you were all inexperienced at whatever job you do now at one point and was just looking for a fair crack of the whip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 bigdavewatson...Could you have not provided the said billionaires some personal services to get them on side.....where is your loyalty to the mighty Saints.....Salty Sam TDD would have used sum military expertise...of that I am sure. More effort required Dave... COYRs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horley CTFC Saint Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Not many people have either a) or b) though do they to be fair? ....and the ones the have, have a pretty poor track record judging by the number of clubs alleged to be on the verge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdavewatson Posted 25 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 25 June, 2009 some great responses, thanks :-) nick, with a bit of fitness, I could do a job in league 1 ;-) The key point I was making is that people with a lot of money want relationships with people they can trust to handle their money appropriately and this was genuine feedback from people who may have been interested. The key point is that they (billionaires) would want someone involved who had one of a) or b) in some major capacity. This doesnt need to be MLT or TL, of course. Which is why I was interested in the relationship between the 3 key players, but a £15m punt is reckless , unless of course the money man is a Saints fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Soze Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Leave the legend alone. I love you Matt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Bigdavewatson... If either of these two contacts were interested, I can put you in touch with someone who has a) and b) and a lot more......also I am sure he would be very, very interested in taking on the role. What do you think ? I think you know Rupert Lowe ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 some great responses, thanks :-) nick, with a bit of fitness, I could do a job in league 1 ;-) The key point I was making is that people with a lot of money want relationships with people they can trust to handle their money appropriately and this was genuine feedback from people who may have been interested. The key point is that they (billionaires) would want someone involved who had one of a) or b) in some major capacity. This doesnt need to be MLT or TL, of course. Which is why I was interested in the relationship between the 3 key players, but a £15m punt is reckless , unless of course the money man is a Saints fan. Cheers. Just one more question though.... Are they still interested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 A B C as easy as 1,2,3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torres Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 The key point is that they (billionaires) would want someone involved who had one of a) or b) in some major capacity. If someone had that much money to play with I think they'd find it pretty easy to employ someone who satisfied one or both of the criteria, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 some great responses, thanks :-) nick, with a bit of fitness, I could do a job in league 1 ;-) 1 step up at a time Big Dave join the footballing side of the Forum game and you wil be fed a stream of glorious chances to make a name for yourself. The9 and BigDave as a forward pairing, Griffo as the pace, Influenced in the middle and DrogBaj as the kitman. In fact Foxy (who is very shallow and bug#ered off to Dubai first chance he had) will be spending most of the game retrieving his shots from the Itchen (river not Stand) and so there is plenty of room in the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 1 step up at a time Big Dave join the footballing side of the Forum game and you wil be fed a stream of glorious chances to make a name for yourself. The9 and BigDave as a forward pairing, Griffo as the pace, Influenced in the middle and DrogBaj as the kitman. In fact Foxy (who is very shallow and bug#ered off to Dubai first chance he had) will be spending most of the game retrieving his shots from the Itchen (river not Stand) and so there is plenty of room in the team. Harsh. Did you think I wanted to be fed those horrible green drinks that your opposite number fed me? I was there working and, after the performance I put in at SMS it's only natural that Big Phil would want to try to turn my head. But for a player like me this kind of speculation is a normal part fo the summer break and whilst I am flattered by his interest I remain committed to the cause and look forward to reproting back for pre-season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Site Agent Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 What experience did Richard Branson have of the Music business? What experience did Alan Suger have of Computers? Sometimes having a lack of a) but the incentive and moxie to succeed is all you need. And it does have the advantage of looking at the task with a new perspective rather than the same old mould that all are using. And you don't need a) or b) as if you can afford to buy a football club, and you are a successful businessman, you can buy this resource and knowledge from the marketplace. And obviously without upsetting you, Big Dave, your Billionaire friends believe they could buy a better resource for this than you, TL or MLT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdavewatson Posted 25 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Cheers. Just one more question though.... Are they still interested? Hi, they were never interested, I know them reasonably well enough to ask the question, through meeting them over the years and our paths cross every now and again. One is an Indian still based in Mumbai and the other is a US guy. This kind of money really is small change, but, alas it was a no go. The money man, whoever he is, must trust either TL or MLT a lot IMO and what I was really trying to get at is who owns the relationship with him. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbletch Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 1) Did MLT introduce the money man to TL? 2) Did TL have the relationship with the money man and approach MLT? Any ideas?? So going back to the first communication we had it appears that 4 money men approached Tony Lynam who then approached MLT. I will however in the meantime offer you a few words of comfort. You will no doubt have seen various articles in news papers, news clips etc. I was originally asked by a group of 4 very wealthy business people to become involved with their proposed takeover of SFC. In answer to your general question about experience. What if you considered it a transaction principally about property with the added bonus of a getting football team that you could let some others play with? Then you might approach a property consultant to handle the acquisition. This of course we can neither confirm or deny because we don't know the money man or his motivation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdavewatson Posted 25 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 25 June, 2009 So going back to the first communication we had it appears that 4 money men approached Tony Lynam who then approached MLT. In answer to your general question about experience. What if you considered it a transaction principally about property with the added bonus of a getting football team that you could let some others play with? Then you might approach a property consultant to handle the acquisition. This of course we can neither confirm or deny because we don't know the money man or his motivation. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Harsh. Did you think I wanted to be fed those horrible green drinks that your opposite number fed me? I was there working and, after the performance I put in at SMS it's only natural that Big Phil would want to try to turn my head. But for a player like me this kind of speculation is a normal part fo the summer break and whilst I am flattered by his interest I remain committed to the cause and look forward to reproting back for pre-season I see, if only I hadnt had read about it first when it was splashed over the back of the nationals- Foxy is Hunted, and Lets Sheik hands in Dubai, I may have been less dismissive of your undoubted skills. As i take your post as a grovelling apology I will forgive on this occasion.I dont want it to be seen as a weakness, even Ronaldo is replaceable. BigDave would still be welcome to join the fold, a big step up for him of course, not of that pre match stretching but straight into kicking it hard as he can in the direction of the goal. Look forward to getting our rightful revenge, im sure Phil is procuring the next ref right at this moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappers Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 I think you know Rupert Lowe ? Thankfully, I have never met him. No this Guy has bought (UK football club), successfully run the it (promotions/silverware) and then sold it on. ....and I know he'd take it on with the right backing and more importantly make it a success ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 I see, if only I hadnt had read about it first when it was splashed over the back of the nationals- Foxy is Hunted, and Lets Sheik hands in Dubai, I may have been less dismissive of your undoubted skills. As i take your post as a grovelling apology I will forgive on this occasion.I dont want it to be seen as a weakness, even Ronaldo is replaceable. BigDave would still be welcome to join the fold, a big step up for him of course, not of that pre match stretching but straight into kicking it hard as he can in the direction of the goal. Look forward to getting our rightful revenge, im sure Phil is procuring the next ref right at this moment Not sure Phil will be doing much procuring just now - recent photos suggest: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 A B C as easy as 1,2,3 Whoa!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 Leave the legend alone. I love you Matt. Hmm, interesting how love can spring from the most unlikely relationships........ player and spectator, but there you go.... But if MLT really wants the Chairman's job, and if he has any real influence over the money man (or men) he needs to explain that 10 points in one season is a small price to pay for a club that is going to be around for a lot longer if the purchase goes ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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