Master Bates Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 Leon Crouch will be at Eastleigh this weekend being presented with a framed shirt. Through his company, the Fullers Group, Crouch has agreed to become the new shirt sponsor of the Spitfires. It's not the first time Eastleigh have benefited from Crouch's generosity. 2 years ago he donated £5,000 to provide a scoreboard for their Silverlake Stadium. Full story in todays echo. Crouch, you sir are still a gent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanthemanfairoak Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 Leon Crouch will be at Eastleigh this weekend being presented with a framed shirt. Through his company, the Fullers Group, Crouch has agreed to become the new shirt sponsor of the Spitfires. It's not the first time Eastleigh have benefited from Crouch's generosity. 2 years ago he donated £5,000 to provide a scoreboard for their Silverlake Stadium. Full story in todays echo. Crouch, you sir are still a gent.the man could do with a pat on the back from saints imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsaint Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 although he was with the "opposition" to the new regime during administration,, his efforts to helpf SFC should be recognised. A free Box for 5/10 years ould be a good gesture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 I thought that he had sold the Fullers group hence he has a lot of ready cash at his disposal ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintjersey Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 Crouch seems to donate alot of money to finance clubs, my respect increased massively for him when he paid our staff wages for a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 Leon has clearly been involved in Saints because he's a fan. He is also a successful business man in his own right. Being both a fan and running the club is not always a happy combination (see Newcastle, for instance) but the criticism he suffered for his time in charge I think was at least in part suspect and self-justifying for those who levied it. We are grateful, and he comes out with credit from the whole spectacle, but I think it is probably rather early doors for giving him some special status in the club. ML has made clear that he will not have any involvement with the past squabbles, so let's give the past a rest for a good while, should we? Lawrie Mac, after all the years he served with distinction, must reasonably be first in line for something like a ceremonial role, like vice president, for instance. The club has already said that freebies for directors and ex-directors are no longer on the agenda. Leon doesn't need it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 although he was with the "opposition" to the new regime during administration,, his efforts to helpf SFC should be recognised. A free Box for 5/10 years ould be a good gesture. Ain't going to happen, nor should it. If ML expects all directors to buy tickets then this is a no-brainer. Anyway I'd argue that Crouch is as much to blame for the mess we found ourselves in as the other so called directors who squabbled like children. Leon put up money to keep the club afloat and we should thank him for that. However the Pinnacle bid he gave credability/funding to was one of the reasons why we needed his support in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 Squabbling like children is more akin to a public schoolboy thingy....AND you know it Alain Perrin...You know which naughty little Ruperts and Cow sons that refers to. Leon Crouch and Lawrie Mac will pay for their own box at St Marys to support The club they love etc and will always be there for The Saints and local football...True fans and real gents. Yes let us leave the other squabbling schoolboys in the distant past. Saints onwards and upwards, with new ownership and leadership, but never forgetting the peeps like.. Leon and Lawrie who have done so much and no doubt will continue to work and support The Mighty Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 Leon Crouch and Lawrie Mac will pay for their own box at St Marys to support The club they love etc . Who cares what they do they like Woggy Wilde and Lowe are in the past Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 Who cares what they do they like Woggy Wilde and Lowe are in the past Bring back Woggy the other two shiiiiisters are well left in the past but the kit needs a real pro for the kit and the other thousand excellent jobs Woggy was so good at.:smt060 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 Leg end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 Regardless of what others may think, he will always be held in the highest regard by me, he saved us, he paid up when we where about to fold...... I am eternally grateful for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 Who cares what they do they like Woggy Wilde and Lowe are in the past And some might argue that without Crouch's help over the last six months, there'd be no future... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 And some might argue that without Crouch's help over the last six months, there'd be no future... True...you know I never had much time for him for various reasons but perhaps on balance it might be fair to say he was the only one of the 3 who were responsible for the mess to actually to something practical to put it right - and it would be fair to acknowledge of the 3 he was probably the least responsible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 Leon might be joining Malone and spending all his time at Eastleigh....Pity for Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 Leon might be joining Malone and spending all his time at Eastleigh....Pity for Saints. To be fair, if he has apassion for football and wants to be involved in running a club, Eastleigh is probably more suited to his budget? Whilst he was no doubt willing to do all he could for saints, his pot was probably not big enough to continually keep dipping into to bail us out without bankrupting himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 To be fair' date=' if he has apassion for football and wants to be involved in running a club, Eastleigh is probably more suited to his budget? Whilst he was no doubt willing to do all he could for saints, his pot was probably not big enough to continually keep dipping into to bail us out without bankrupting himself.[/quote'] Fair comment as long as Eastleigh do not pass us on the way....as they travel up the leagues....Thank you Leon and good luck for the future....He will always be a Saint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintchris23 Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 What people don't seem to realise is that there would have been a spin off concerning other sponsors of EFC and that every penny that Fullers Group 'donate', they will receive far more in return through business dealings. I've had many a dealing with Leon and enjoyed many a golf day with him and can honestly say he's a top bloke, however, don't for a second think it was a donation and he expects nothing back! A few years ago, Appleton Signs in Hedge End, sponsored EFC to a hefty tune with the promise that they would make the money back within the year. Sure enough, enough orders came in from other sponsors that they made a return on their investment within months. So in other words, business is business and everyone wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 Who cares what they do they like Woggy Wilde and Lowe are in the past What a stupid comment (re Crouch and Lawrie Mac)........they may be in the past, but one is a BIG part of our history, and the other in all probability, saved us from extinction. How 'Fans' like you, can keep coming on here and deriding Big Lawrie is beyond me.............but then again, it's becoming the norm to run our own down on here.:mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghq Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 True...you know I never had much time for him for various reasons but perhaps on balance it might be fair to say he was the only one of the 3 who were responsible for the mess to actually to something practical to put it right - and it would be fair to acknowledge of the 3 he was probably the least responsible. That pretty much sums up my opinion of the situation. Let's not forget, with the real information, or lack of it, to hand that's all it is, an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 Who cares what they do they like Woggy Wilde and Lowe are in the past I don't think Lawrie Mac should be dragged in as somebody of past regimes. He is the most successful manager in the club's history and has always been there to support the club. With the death of Bobby Robson today he is also the last remaining of the big characters of that era. We should be ashamed if he is not recognised by this club in his lifetime. A bit of respect would be a good start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 True...you know I never had much time for him for various reasons but perhaps on balance it might be fair to say he was the only one of the 3 who were responsible for the mess to actually to something practical to put it right - and it would be fair to acknowledge of the 3 he was probably the least responsible. I'd agree with this. I just feel there are two sides to this story and the 'Crouch cuddlers' seem to forget he had some role in what happened. He may be less culpable than Lowe or Wilde, but some of his decisions were decisive (and bad) for Saints (eg. Wilde support, Euell wages and Pinnacle bankroll). BUT the guy put his hand in his pocket when things looked bleak and he should be thanked for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 I'd agree with this. I just feel there are two sides to this story and the 'Crouch cuddlers' seem to forget he had some role in what happened. He may be less culpable than Lowe or Wilde, but some of his decisions were decisive (and bad) for Saints (eg. Wilde support, Euell wages and Pinnacle bankroll). BUT the guy put his hand in his pocket when things looked bleak and he should be thanked for that. Statement.... from The Chairperson of the small group of Lowey cuddlers:smt027 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wopper Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 Statement.... from The Chairperson of the small group of Lowey cuddlers:smt027 You have to laugh at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 (edited) You have to laugh at them. They're all Double Dutch to me:grin: Edited 31 July, 2009 by ottery st mary SPELLIN COPYING mR pERRIN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 What a stupid comment (re Crouch and Lawrie Mac)........they may be in the past, but one is a BIG part of our history, and the other in all probability, saved us from extinction. How 'Fans' like you, can keep coming on here and deriding Big Lawrie is beyond me.............but then again, it's becoming the norm to run our own down on here.:mad: I agree. L Mac is far from perfect but he cares passionately about SFC and still does everything he can to promote Saints. I think he should be cut just a little slack for services rendered and you can say the same about Crouch. I doubt either man will ever have a position of influence at SMS again so maybe its time to say thanks to both men and let them be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 Let's build him a statue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 Let's build him a statue. he looks a bit like the comedy manderic statue we used to have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 Let's build him a statue. Great idea...Alain Perrin alongside Leon and Lawrie.....Cuddles for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 You have to laugh at them. There are none so blind as those that will not see. I'm glad we're rid of Lowe, I think the club needed a new beginning. I'm just not a season ticket holder on the 'anyone but Lowe' **** truck like Ottery and yourself. Does Crouch deserve a box for 5-10 years? No Does he deserve one more than Lowe? Yes If you cannot see that there were many rogues in our club, rather than just the one, that's your problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 There are none so blind as those that will not see. I'm glad we're rid of Lowe, I think the club needed a new beginning. I'm just not a season ticket holder on the 'anyone but Lowe' **** truck like Ottery and yourself. Does Crouch deserve a box for 5-10 years? No Does he deserve one more than Lowe? Yes If you cannot see that there were many rogues in our club, rather than just the one, that's your problem. Alain...You are in need of a BIG cuddle......I am going to ask GM if he could meet you at Milwall game and provide the service...I would but I am very shy...:smt060 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 Regardless of what others may think, he will always be held in the highest regard by me, he saved us, he paid up when we where about to fold...... I am eternally grateful for that. +1 with knobs on . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 Alain...You are in need of a BIG cuddle......I am going to ask GM if he could meet you at Milwall game and provide the service...I would but I am very shy...:smt060 Meaningful contribution as usual Ottery. Perhaps more emoticons will help get your message across.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 Meaningful contribution as usual Ottery. Perhaps more emoticons will help get your message across.... jonah and my other friends call them crayons....Bear in mind I am only 12 years of age but improving all the time.....COYRs:grin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 31 July, 2009 Share Posted 31 July, 2009 Leon is a very generous man. I have nothing but respect for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red and White Army Posted 1 August, 2009 Share Posted 1 August, 2009 jonah and my other friends call them crayons....Bear in mind I am only 12 years of age but improving all the time.....COYRs:grin: I suspect Most 12 year olds are a lot smarter than you. If Crouch had not backed Wilde, then we wouldn't be in this mess at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 1 August, 2009 Share Posted 1 August, 2009 I suspect Most 12 year olds are a lot smarter than you. If Crouch had not backed Wilde, then we wouldn't be in this mess at all. You are so much fun:smt060 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_mears Posted 1 August, 2009 Share Posted 1 August, 2009 I suspect Most 12 year olds are a lot smarter than you. If Crouch had not backed Wilde, then we wouldn't be in this mess at all. I dont think that has much to do with it. The same situation would of occured irrespect of Wilde/Crouch. Fans where doing big protests before anyone had heard of MW. Crouch wanted to invest money but nobody else would. All history thank fook anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speculator Posted 2 August, 2009 Share Posted 2 August, 2009 And some might argue that without Crouch's help over the last six months, there'd be no future... Equally, some might argue without Crouch's perverse meddling at times, the whole sorry saga of the past 3 years may not have happened. The only benefit we have achieved is that we are now a club without debt but one with seemingly no money to spend until such time the club can show it can generate it's own finance. Futhermore, any influence we may have had over the club is gone other than the usual voting with feet which thankfully is not going to happen if the ST sales are a guide to decent attendances in the long run. Crouch is a dinosaur as are his methods and one who apparently still believes that throwing his money around will cure all ills. Crouch should be thanked for our future no more than we should offer thanks to Lowe or Mchameleon and Andrew Oldknow is the man whose contribution we have really overlooked as custodian of our future. The real issue is can those jumped up alleged ITK's cope with a club run as a competent commercial enterprise and one whose soul aim is to generate a business that is self sufficient and largely secretive. A business that can be run without any contribution from directors whose ego's are allegedly bigger than their financial acumen? The club can only improve without the 'look at me' types of Lowe and Crouch and their close 'friends'. Asking for them to purchase a ticket is IMO as much to do with burying the hatchet of the past as recognising the need for them to pay for their past contributions. Concessions need not apply in these instances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speculator Posted 2 August, 2009 Share Posted 2 August, 2009 Leon is a very generous man. I have nothing but respect for him. Genoristy is a wonderful trait if used wisely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 3 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 3 August, 2009 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/4524891.Crouch__I_m_sticking_with_Saints/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 Equally, some might argue without Crouch's perverse meddling at times, the whole sorry saga of the past 3 years may not have happened. The only benefit we have achieved is that we are now a club without debt but one with seemingly no money to spend until such time the club can show it can generate it's own finance. Futhermore, any influence we may have had over the club is gone other than the usual voting with feet which thankfully is not going to happen if the ST sales are a guide to decent attendances in the long run. Crouch is a dinosaur as are his methods and one who apparently still believes that throwing his money around will cure all ills. Crouch should be thanked for our future no more than we should offer thanks to Lowe or Mchameleon and Andrew Oldknow is the man whose contribution we have really overlooked as custodian of our future. The real issue is can those jumped up alleged ITK's cope with a club run as a competent commercial enterprise and one whose soul aim is to generate a business that is self sufficient and largely secretive. A business that can be run without any contribution from directors whose ego's are allegedly bigger than their financial acumen? The club can only improve without the 'look at me' types of Lowe and Crouch and their close 'friends'. Asking for them to purchase a ticket is IMO as much to do with burying the hatchet of the past as recognising the need for them to pay for their past contributions. Concessions need not apply in these instances. An exceptionally cold , mean-spirited take on a decent man who's always done his best for this club irrespective of any mistakes made along the way . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 Genoristy is a wonderful trait if used wisely. I'm 100% sure you're not the person to talk about using words wisely, you can't even spell generosity correctly which is quite amusing TBH. Whoever you really are hiding behind another assumed identity you are way off target with your criticisms and since it is blatantly obvious you are a regular poster I'd be inclined to hope this account gets closed ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 I was speaking to an ex Director who agreed with me that Crouch's judgement, when it came to Saints, was badly flawed but without his close season "investment" we would not have a club to support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 (edited) Equally, some might argue without Crouch's perverse meddling at times, the whole sorry saga of the past 3 years may not have happened. The only benefit we have achieved is that we are now a club without debt but one with seemingly no money to spend until such time the club can show it can generate it's own finance. Futhermore, any influence we may have had over the club is gone other than the usual voting with feet which thankfully is not going to happen if the ST sales are a guide to decent attendances in the long run. Crouch is a dinosaur as are his methods and one who apparently still believes that throwing his money around will cure all ills. Crouch should be thanked for our future no more than we should offer thanks to Lowe or Mchameleon and Andrew Oldknow is the man whose contribution we have really overlooked as custodian of our future. The real issue is can those jumped up alleged ITK's cope with a club run as a competent commercial enterprise and one whose soul aim is to generate a business that is self sufficient and largely secretive. A business that can be run without any contribution from directors whose ego's are allegedly bigger than their financial acumen? The club can only improve without the 'look at me' types of Lowe and Crouch and their close 'friends'. Asking for them to purchase a ticket is IMO as much to do with burying the hatchet of the past as recognising the need for them to pay for their past contributions. Concessions need not apply in these instances. You remind me of that Captain swing.....Is it bafoon or bufoon or do you play games in your strange world?:rolleyes:OR even BUFFOON...ottery you are useless. Nice to see Leon Crouch supporting The Mighty Saints.:smt060 Edited 3 August, 2009 by ottery st mary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 Shpellinge lessens aypartt. Eye wille alweighs bee graitful foure hys hellp. His money kept us alive and for that reason alone we should find a way to forgive him his mistakes. Our club is still here and I hope that he as a fan can now enjoy watching and supporting us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 Shpellinge lessens aypartt. Eye wille alweighs bee graitful foure hys hellp. His money kept us alive and for that reason alone we should find a way to forgive him his mistakes. Our club is still here and I hope that he as a fan can now enjoy watching and supporting us. Sorry..Teach...My daughters keep telling to do some spell check..But for the mo..I am still learning the computer...To be honest they think I am a buffoon.:smt027 Then again ALL my fellow Saints luvving SWF posters will stick up for me:smt060 COYRs:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 We are all different and yet we are all the same. WE ARE SAINTS SUPPORTERS. With one or two possible exceptions of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 I thought that he had sold the Fullers group hence he has a lot of ready cash at his disposal ???? He sold to the Fuller's Group. H was Lymington Precision Engineering. Don'y know thw figures but probably around £10/15M. Certainly not Football Club territory but more than I've got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 Sorry..Teach...My daughters keep telling to do some spell check..But for the mo..I am still learning the computer...To be honest they think I am a buffoon.:smt027 Then again ALL my fellow Saints luvving SWF posters will stick up for me:smt060 COYRs:) You are 12 years old and you have daughters?!!:shock: Are you sure that you don`t live in P**tsmouth?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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