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From what I have heard 2 other managers were pinpointed for the job before pardew,one is believed to be coppell and the other could have possibly been one of the few you mention.......perhaps they were offered it but turned it down,who knows.

 

My guess is WGS.

 

 

 

http://www.newcastleunited-mad.co.uk/news/loadnews.asp?cid=TMNW&id=462911

 

according to this site (but no source given) both were spoken to by Pinnacle (along with WGS and Dowie) and Shearer would have accepted the manager's job.

 

Should Cortesse have offered the job to either of them?

 

Very interesting but in the abscence of a more credible source than another club's fans site it is only a dubiuos rumour.

 

One point though, I just hope MLT does not now become a continual 'rent-a-quote' for what Pinnacle might have done.I suspect he was highly embarrassed by the outcome of this episode.Whilst due to the failure of others he had largely become its public face.

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http://www.newcastleunited-mad.co.uk/news/loadnews.asp?cid=TMNW&id=462911

 

according to this site (but no source given) both were spoken to by Pinnacle (along with WGS and Dowie) and Shearer would have accepted the manager's job.

 

Should Cortesse have offered the job to either of them?

 

That's not what Tis says in the article:

 

"But Alan and Kevin were both keen and if we had succeeded in our bid who knows what would have happened?"

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Pinnacle was a house of straw. With some generousity to MLT's service to the club, Saints fans mostly took the view that he was as deceived as the rest of us. It will not do his reputation any good to give the impression that he still believes in Pinnacle. An episode best forgotten.

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Nineteen Canteen

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MLT confirmed Pinnacle considered and approached all managers with a Saints connection. Why? Not because they were the best suited to the task in hand but because of their 'box office appeal' and would attract the crowds back straight away. Really?

 

It seems to me not only was their bid based on a foundation of false hopes and promises but their plans for the future were even more fanciful and ill thought out. MLT said that he did not even consider managers without a Saints connection!!! God knows what his player recruitment policy would have been.

 

We had a lucky escape with Pinnacle and MLT even if we have paid a heavy price to the start of our season thanks to some rather inglorious timewasting IMO.

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MLT confirmed Pinnacle considered and approached all managers with a Saints connection. Why? Not because they were the best suited to the task in hand but because of their 'box office appeal' and would attract the crowds back straight away. Really?

 

It seems to me not only was their bid based on a foundation of false hopes and promises but their plans for the future were even more fanciful and ill thought out. MLT said that he did not even consider managers without a Saints connection!!! God knows what his player recruitment policy would have been.

 

We had a lucky escape with Pinnacle and MLT even if we have paid a heavy price to the start of our season thanks to some rather inglorious timewasting IMO.

 

i agree 100% with you on that.

 

they seemed to be ''planning'' for an instant bounce effect, rather than long-term planning. This is what we have now and we're bloody lucky at that.

 

close shave with pinnacle - agreed.

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Or allegedly making up stories about betting scams to show us all what.........well what exactly? To inflate his ego or saleability or simply failure to put the words hard and work together - his words not mine.

 

Saleability of course. He wanted to sell more books, which he has done from all this over reaction, so he did exactly what he wanted. Perhaps he isn't such a "naive" businessman after all.

 

But yeah if the "inflate his ego" reasoning works well for you then by all means go for it.

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Or allegedly making up stories about betting scams to show us all what.........well what exactly? To inflate his ego or saleability or simply failure to put the words hard and work together - his words not mine.

 

Sneer all you want you loopy normal Saints fans don,t give a f*ck.

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ooohTerryHurlock

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Pinnacle could have spoken to Capello or Nickh it counted for nothing.

 

Our current board probably are aware of what would have come with such appointments, popular move but a huge budget would need to be in place as doubt either would settle for a 5 year plan

 

Made a massive mistake in not appointing Nick H!! tututut.

 

This mistake cascades onto the fact that we then missed out on Jan Molby in midfield, and the silky no 9 up front..... and we end up with players like hammond and lambert coming in??? Do they know what they are doing?

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Nineteen Canteen

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Saleability of course. He wanted to sell more books, which he has done from all this over reaction, so he did exactly what he wanted. Perhaps he isn't such a "naive" businessman after all.

 

But yeah if the "inflate his ego" reasoning works well for you then by all means go for it.

 

Of course it was saleability from this over reaction which I'm sorry to have to rain on your parade has had the opposite effect for the 'naive businessman'.

 

The attached link shows sales of Hard Back Non-Fiction (seems ironic) books as at 5th September and MLT has slipped from 11th to 15th. To put that into context the Times bestsellers chart listed his book of having sold 1,280 books as at 31st August so hardly rushing to re-stock I would have thought. The average selling price of under £13 isn't great compared to an RRP of £18.99 and I hope He negotiated a percentage with Hiley and the Publisher as it hardly looks like a get rich scheme at this stage.

 

Still he may have sold many thousands and still slipped down the charts thanks to books by Levi Roats and JLS. :D

 

http://www.thebookseller.com/charts/96531-top-20-hardback-non-fiction.html

 

MLT has continued to 'take le Tiss' since he hung up his boots IMO when perhaps he should have learned to put hard and work together. Why does he refuse to wear a tie on TV? Ego, arrogance, sartorial reasons, lazy or still taking le tiss?

 

IMO MLT has damaged his reputation and can't live off his playing days forever just as other flawed greats found to their cost.

 

BTW these posts don't give me any perverse pleasure but i think it's important people don't just assume a bit of controversy is actually a good thing. In the world of celebrity it may be but usually only temporary and it appears MLT doesn't even have that as a comforter.

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Of course it was saleability from this over reaction which I'm sorry to have to rain on your parade has had the opposite effect for the 'naive businessman'.

 

The attached link shows sales of Hard Back Non-Fiction (seems ironic) books as at 5th September and MLT has slipped from 11th to 15th. To put that into context the Times bestsellers chart listed his book of having sold 1,280 books as at 31st August so hardly rushing to re-stock I would have thought. The average selling price of under £13 isn't great compared to an RRP of £18.99 and I hope He negotiated a percentage with Hiley and the Publisher as it hardly looks like a get rich scheme at this stage.

 

Still he may have sold many thousands and still slipped down the charts thanks to books by Levi Roats and JLS. :D

 

 

 

http://www.thebookseller.com/charts/96531-top-20-hardback-non-fiction.html

 

MLT has continued to 'take le Tiss' since he hung up his boots IMO when perhaps he should have learned to put hard and work together. Why does he refuse to wear a tie on TV? Ego, arrogance, sartorial reasons, lazy or still taking le tiss?

 

IMO MLT has damaged his reputation and can't live off his playing days forever just as other flawed greats found to their cost.

 

BTW these posts don't give me any perverse pleasure but i think it's important people don't just assume a bit of controversy is actually a good thing. In the world of celebrity it may be but usually only temporary and it appears MLT doesn't even have that as a comforter.

 

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BTW these posts don't give me any perverse pleasure QUOTE]

 

Oh no ???

 

Then why are you sitting on here at well past 1 am on a Tuesday morning repeating ad nauseum your strange views?? Why do it if you don't get any pleasure from it??

 

Haven't you got a wife / girlfriend / boyfriend to snuggle up to ???? I can just imagine the scene in the 19 household:

 

"Come on darling. Come to bed"

 

"No love. I have to finish this posting about MLT"

 

"Oh but you wrote the same yesterday, and the day before and the day before and the day before and the day before and the day before. Come on . Come to bed"

 

"No. It is my duty to finish this post. I swore allegiance to Rupert and death to all his enemies. I get no pleasure out of it you know! "

 

" Oh come on. Sometimes I think that MLT gives you a bigger h*** - on than me. Come on. Come to bed. I will let you ...... to me. Put down that PC and come to bed"

 

"No I must finish this posting. I haven't slagged MLT off for at least an hour or so. I don't care about sensual pleasures of the flesh. I must finish off this post. I get no perverse pleasure from it you know"

 

I do feel sorry for you 19 Canteen

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EastleighSoulBoy

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Of course it was saleability from this over reaction which I'm sorry to have to rain on your parade has had the opposite effect for the 'naive businessman'.

 

The attached link shows sales of Hard Back Non-Fiction (seems ironic) books as at 5th September and MLT has slipped from 11th to 15th. To put that into context the Times bestsellers chart listed his book of having sold 1,280 books as at 31st August so hardly rushing to re-stock I would have thought. The average selling price of under £13 isn't great compared to an RRP of £18.99 and I hope He negotiated a percentage with Hiley and the Publisher as it hardly looks like a get rich scheme at this stage.

 

Still he may have sold many thousands and still slipped down the charts thanks to books by Levi Roats and JLS. :D

 

http://www.thebookseller.com/charts/96531-top-20-hardback-non-fiction.html

 

MLT has continued to 'take le Tiss' since he hung up his boots IMO when perhaps he should have learned to put hard and work together. Why does he refuse to wear a tie on TV? Ego, arrogance, sartorial reasons, lazy or still taking le tiss?

 

IMO MLT has damaged his reputation and can't live off his playing days forever just as other flawed greats found to their cost.

 

BTW these posts don't give me any perverse pleasure but i think it's important people don't just assume a bit of controversy is actually a good thing. In the world of celebrity it may be but usually only temporary and it appears MLT doesn't even have that as a comforter.

 

And on

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Of course it was saleability from this over reaction which I'm sorry to have to rain on your parade has had the opposite effect for the 'naive businessman'.

 

The attached link shows sales of Hard Back Non-Fiction (seems ironic) books as at 5th September and MLT has slipped from 11th to 15th. To put that into context the Times bestsellers chart listed his book of having sold 1,280 books as at 31st August so hardly rushing to re-stock I would have thought. The average selling price of under £13 isn't great compared to an RRP of £18.99 and I hope He negotiated a percentage with Hiley and the Publisher as it hardly looks like a get rich scheme at this stage.

 

Still he may have sold many thousands and still slipped down the charts thanks to books by Levi Roats and JLS. :D

 

http://www.thebookseller.com/charts/96531-top-20-hardback-non-fiction.html

 

MLT has continued to 'take le Tiss' since he hung up his boots IMO when perhaps he should have learned to put hard and work together. Why does he refuse to wear a tie on TV? Ego, arrogance, sartorial reasons, lazy or still taking le tiss?

 

IMO MLT has damaged his reputation and can't live off his playing days forever just as other flawed greats found to their cost.

 

BTW these posts don't give me any perverse pleasure but i think it's important people don't just assume a bit of controversy is actually a good thing. In the world of celebrity it may be but usually only temporary and it appears MLT doesn't even have that as a comforter.

 

Ad infinitum

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Made a massive mistake in not appointing Nick H!! tututut.

 

This mistake cascades onto the fact that we then missed out on Jan Molby in midfield, and the silky no 9 up front..... and we end up with players like hammond and lambert coming in??? Do they know what they are doing?

 

Jan is too busy promoting "celebrity slim for him" and the9 couldn't afford the pay cut, can't think of what nickh's reason would be other than it would take too much of his time away from here !

 

Two wins and we are +1, with so so many games to go, will remain content for the minute with our lot

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Nineteen Canteen

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BTW these posts don't give me any perverse pleasure QUOTE]

 

Oh no ???

 

Then why are you sitting on here at well past 1 am on a Tuesday morning repeating ad nauseum your strange views?? Why do it if you don't get any pleasure from it??

 

Haven't you got a wife / girlfriend / boyfriend to snuggle up to ???? I can just imagine the scene in the 19 household:

 

"Come on darling. Come to bed"

 

"No love. I have to finish this posting about MLT"

 

"Oh but you wrote the same yesterday, and the day before and the day before and the day before and the day before and the day before. Come on . Come to bed"

 

"No. It is my duty to finish this post. I swore allegiance to Rupert and death to all his enemies. I get no pleasure out of it you know! "

 

" Oh come on. Sometimes I think that MLT gives you a bigger h*** - on than me. Come on. Come to bed. I will let you ...... to me. Put down that PC and come to bed"

 

"No I must finish this posting. I haven't slagged MLT off for at least an hour or so. I don't care about sensual pleasures of the flesh. I must finish off this post. I get no perverse pleasure from it you know"

 

I do feel sorry for you 19 Canteen

 

Early start Tame?

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Smirking_Saint

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MLT confirmed Pinnacle considered and approached all managers with a Saints connection. Why? Not because they were the best suited to the task in hand but because of their 'box office appeal' and would attract the crowds back straight away. Really?

 

It seems to me not only was their bid based on a foundation of false hopes and promises but their plans for the future were even more fanciful and ill thought out. MLT said that he did not even consider managers without a Saints connection!!! God knows what his player recruitment policy would have been.

 

We had a lucky escape with Pinnacle and MLT even if we have paid a heavy price to the start of our season thanks to some rather inglorious timewasting IMO.

 

NC, this is what frustrates me, when you are not continually trolling on this site you have the ability to come out with some spot on material.

 

I have to admit i agree with this 100%

 

Unfortunately i was dragged in the the PR spin of the pinnacle campaign, i suppose when the night is at it's darkest you will focus on any light on the horizon, i am just glad that the pinnacle fiasco was nothing more than a flash and the new dawn firmly had ML and NC at the helm.

 

Keep up he decent thought out post's NC, you must be getting bored of the trolling now surely ?

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Yeah, Shearer and Keegan wanted to manage the Saints and Mummy's Boy Fiasco was worth hundreds of millions ....

 

Why doesn't MLT keep his trap shut and let ML and AP get on with the reality of sorting out a club brought to its knees by delusions of grandeur ..?

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Yeah, Shearer and Keegan wanted to manage the Saints and Mummy's Boy Fiasco was worth hundreds of millions ....

 

Why doesn't MLT keep his trap shut and let ML and AP get on with the reality of sorting out a club brought to its knees by delusions of grandeur ..?

 

I think he realises now what a mistake it was to get involved - unfortunately what we are hearing now is just digging the trench deeper and deeper.

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Nineteen Canteen

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NC, this is what frustrates me, when you are not continually trolling on this site you have the ability to come out with some spot on material.

 

I have to admit i agree with this 100%

 

Unfortunately i was dragged in the the PR spin of the pinnacle campaign, i suppose when the night is at it's darkest you will focus on any light on the horizon, i am just glad that the pinnacle fiasco was nothing more than a flash and the new dawn firmly had ML and NC at the helm.

 

Keep up he decent thought out post's NC, you must be getting bored of the trolling now surely ?

 

I have never trolled on this site and always given my view as an ardent Saints fan who believes support should always be unstinting but never blind.

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