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What decent players have the two clubs bought through their ranks? What have I missed got wrong?

 

SAINTS....................................POMPEY

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Le Tiss...............................Vince Hilaire?

Shearer..............................Matty Taylor

Rod Wallace

Danny Wallace

Wayne Bridge

Mick Channon

Steve Moran

Steve Williams

Nick Holmes

Theo Walcott

Gareth Bale

 

 

;)

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What decent players have the two clubs bought through their ranks? What have I missed got wrong?

 

SAINTS....................................POMPEY

____________________________________

 

Le Tiss...............................Vince Hilaire?

Shearer..............................Matty Taylor

Rod Wallace

Danny Wallace

Wayne Bridge

Mick Channon

Steve Moran

Steve Williams

Nick Holmes

Theo Walcott

Gareth Bale

 

 

;)

 

 

 

I fear Anderton be in the blue column.

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More to add, if you looking at players who then forged a professional career/played in the top 2 divisions. MAKE NO MISTAKE, WE PUT THE SKATES TO SHAME!

 

SAINTS

 

Matt Oakley

Tommy Widdrington

Francis Benali

Adam Lallana

Chris Baird

Brian Howard

Leon Best

Dexter Blackstock

Alan Shearer

Jason Dodd (signed from Bath BUT an exception - or not?)

Neil Maddison

Jeff Kenna

David Hughes

Gary Monk/Mike Williamson (both signed from Torquay when 16?)

Michael Poke

Lloyd James

Matt Mills

Joseph Mills

Nathan Dyer

Andrew Surman

Simon Gillett

David McGoldrick (signed at 15 from Notts C)

 

 

PORTSMOUTH

 

James Keene (Elfsborg??)

Lewis Buxton?

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Has he developed at Aresenal? He has been overtaken by Ramsey already (who is younger and stayed longer at cardiff)

 

Maybe he should have stayed at Saints longer (note to Llanna)

hmmm...champions league quater finals, 3 goals in the hardest away game england had this campaign...look nailed on to keep that spot for england...

 

but right now, his injuries are tearing him to pieces...Wenger predicted this after he pleaded with the FA not to take him to the U21 competition in the summer

 

he played 20 games or so for us as a 16 year old and until his inuries this season, he was superb...

 

lallana is playing in division 3 ffs

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Possibly, TDD, they could.

 

Anyway, does anyone actually rate Theo that highly? I've always said he is way behind in his development as a footballer and is still more of a sprinter than anything? Premier League player, yes. International footballer? Despite that Croatia game amd that world class dribble v Liverpool, I still 'hmmmmm' over his inclusions.

 

Anyway, sorry, off topic!

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Sorry TDD as usual it is a matter of opinions! I was at the match where he scored a superb goal in the youth team v Arsenal and just dont think he has developed much in the 4 years since as a footballer! He has pace and he has skill but not yet a complete footballer in my opinion! I saw the Croatia hatrick described as a hat trick in a below par performance, in the same way as the recent Man u one by Michael Owen.

 

I believe that going to Arsenal so early in his career was detremintal to his progress!

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Sorry TDD as usual it is a matter of opinions! I was at the match where he scored a superb goal in the youth team v Arsenal and just dont think he has developed much in the 4 years since as a footballer! He has pace and he has skill but not yet a complete footballer in my opinion! I saw the Croatia hatrick described as a hat trick in a below par performance, in the same way as the recent Man u one by Michael Owen.

 

I believe that going to Arsenal so early in his career was detremintal to his progress!

 

 

how can you compare scoring a hattrick for england away to croatia to one by owen at man u...

 

do you think he would have scored that hattrick for england and starred in the champions league playing for saints in the CCC or even league 1..?

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What decent players have the two clubs bought through their ranks? What have I missed got wrong?

 

SAINTS....................................POMPEY

____________________________________

 

Le Tiss...............................Vince Hilaire?

Shearer..............................Matty Taylor

Rod Wallace

Danny Wallace

Wayne Bridge

Mick Channon

Steve Moran

Steve Williams

Nick Holmes

Theo Walcott

Gareth Bale

 

 

;)

 

So what

 

Pompey are in the premiership and we are League 1

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So what

 

Pompey are in the premiership and we are League 1

 

yes, and we were in the prem nearly 30 years.

 

and we've got a better stadium, training ground etc

 

and we've got a bigger fanbase.

 

and we're not riddled with debt.

 

and we've developed more players than them over the years.

 

and we're in the ascendency and they are quite the opposite...

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More to add, if you looking at players who then forged a professional career/played in the top 2 divisions. MAKE NO MISTAKE, WE PUT THE SKATES TO SHAME!

 

SAINTS

 

Matt Oakley

Tommy Widdrington

Francis Benali

Adam Lallana

Chris Baird

Brian Howard

Leon Best

Dexter Blackstock

Alan Shearer

Jason Dodd (signed from Bath BUT an exception - or not?)

Neil Maddison

Jeff Kenna

David Hughes

Gary Monk/Mike Williamson (both signed from Torquay when 16?)

Michael Poke

Lloyd James

Matt Mills

Joseph Mills

Nathan Dyer

Andrew Surman

Simon Gillett

David McGoldrick (signed at 15 from Notts C)

 

 

PORTSMOUTH

James Keene (Elfsborg??)

Lewis Buxton?

 

 

I took a long look at your very impressive list and couldn't see...

GARETH BALE ? ..and what 's that other lad's name...Theo?, Theo Walnut, or something:confused: sorry, its all that pre-Christmas cheer .

YES, of course... Walcott. Didn't they both start with us , too ?

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how can you compare scoring a hattrick for england away to croatia to one by owen at man u...

 

do you think he would have scored that hattrick for england and starred in the champions league playing for saints in the CCC or even league 1..?

 

I think we just need to agree that our opinions differ on the issue of Walcotts development since leaving saints!

 

I like Walcott and hope he makes it to the world cup! Just dont think his game has really developed in the 4 years since he left! That is my opinion and playing in the champions league and scoring a hat trick for England in croatia does not change it!

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how many times has he been picked recently..? (seriously, I dont know)

how many appearances has he made..?

 

 

well obviously not THIS season, but I think he and Surman got seelcted last season didn't they ..? despite..r*********.

 

AND there are still articles circulating from those useless journos who hint at interest from Prem.clubs. Although AP seems to have advised him well.

 

YES, I think we can say that his development WAS at Saints.

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well obviously not THIS season, but I think he and Surman got seelcted last season didn't they ..? despite..r*********.

 

AND there are still articles circulating from those useless journos who hint at interest from Prem.clubs. Although AP seems to have advised him well.

 

YES, I think we can say that his development WAS at Saints.

 

I think lallana only has one appearance at under 21 to his name? Anyone care to correct me?

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I took a long look at your very impressive list and couldn't see...

GARETH BALE ? ..and what 's that other lad's name...Theo?, Theo Walnut, or something:confused: sorry, its all that pre-Christmas cheer .

YES, of course... Walcott. Didn't they both start with us , too ?

 

Walcott came from Swindon i think?

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What decent players have the two clubs bought through their ranks? What have I missed got wrong?

 

SAINTS....................................POMPEY

____________________________________

 

Le Tiss...............................Vince Hilaire?

Shearer..............................Matty Taylor

Rod Wallace

Danny Wallace

Wayne Bridge

Mick Channon

Steve Moran

Steve Williams

Nick Holmes

Theo Walcott

Gareth Bale

 

 

;)

 

I played against Vince Hilaire back in the early 70s and he was from London and started with Crippled Palarse not the sailor boys...

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