Block 5 Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 (edited) I undertake to NEVER purchase the Echo again until Ian Murray resigns or is sacked. Pledge your allegance here. (Mods - can we make this a sticky? Or are we on dodgy legal territory?) Edited 27 January, 2010 by Block 5 Sticky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambol2K9 Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 I've never bought the Echo in my life, so all politics aside, this is an easy one for me to put my name too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 Definitely. Actually, I think my boycott started about 3 or 4 years ago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartosz Bialkowski Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 After their accusing article this morning, I have to say i agree. Poor form echo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintalton Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 never have, never will, utter rubbish written by a bunch of s*it stirring jealous idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruftydog Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 Difficult one that. The Echo is the perfect size as a liner for my cat's litter tray so it does come in useful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 this article has lost me as a customer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 I vow never to buy the Echo again. Actually I've never bought it anyway as I live in Christchurch. I never buy newspapers at all, I think they are a total waste of money. Have to say though, Ian Murray is starting to make himself look a right tit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 Difficult one that. The Echo is the perfect size as a liner for my cat's litter tray so it does come in useful! Use the Advertiser! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 Murray is pathetic. Very poor behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDonkey Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 This childish squabble is doing nothing but embarassing the Echo and Southampton FC. I pray that they stop before the wider media picks up on it and we become a laughing stock once more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 (edited) Murray OUT Actually what you need to do is boycott the advertisers and tell them why. The paper would cease to exist without that revenue. Edited 27 January, 2010 by TNT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonsaint1604 Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 It's rubbish anyway. The pink was good but I haven't seen it the last few times I was in southampton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torbay Saint Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 Very poor article today. Which begs the question how did it win Newspaper of the Year? Surely it must have been Newspaper of the Year for just Southampton!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 Very poor article today. Which begs the question how did it win Newspaper of the Year? Surely it must have been Newspaper of the Year for just Southampton!? Doubt it could even win that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint2Hotty Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 Count me in. I will no longer buy that useless, uninformative wrag! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitterne again Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 Shame on you Mr Murray, pity none of your staff have the ba**s to point out what your doing too? So as far as the echo is concerned...I'M OUT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Bones Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 For an OS supporter - is the Echo a local only rag or covers the southern UK ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractor_Saint Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 Pathetic journalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altoniansaints Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 i heard that ian murray has been head hunted by a yet unnamed northern newspaper ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 this article has lost me as a customer. What article? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractor_Saint Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 (edited) Southampton FC bosses 'ruined' charity event claims For Dementia Southampton chairman Nicola Cortese linked with Serie A club Italian job for Cortese? ‘Nicola who?’ Cortese: Saints are my baby Edited 27 January, 2010 by Tractor_Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 Poor journalism...led by someone who it seems would use a charity to get in digs at SFC. We needed their support against Lowe and Wilde and got.....NOTHING. What goes around comes around eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 For an OS supporter - is the Echo a local only rag or covers the southern UK ? Southamton based but aim for triangle -Fareham, New Forest to guess north of Winchester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/4871629.Saints_chiefs____ruined____our_charity_event/ http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/4871585.Cortese_linked_with_move_to_Italy/?ref=mr http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/4873633.Italian_job_for_Cortese_____Nicola_who____/?ref=rss http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/4873657.Cortese__Saints_are_my_baby/ Seem quite interesting news to me NC must be highly thought of in Italy but not by John Suchet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakovnetski Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 I undertake to NEVER purchase the Echo again until Ian Murray resigns or is sacked. Pledge your allegance here. (Mods - can we make this a sticky? Or are we on dodgy legal territory?) Easy for me. It never makes its way north of Hampshire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 How about a "boycott the Echo" banner at the Pompey game live on ITV for all Saints fans to see? I doubt the club would mind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amsterdam Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 i heard that ian murray has been head hunted by a yet unnamed northern newspaper ;-) Nah - just 'phoned the Newcastle Evening Chronicle and they said "Howay, pet, Ian who-like?" (translates as "My dear chap, who is this Ian fellow of whom you speak?") Appalling journalism from the Echo - wouldn't buy it if I lived there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 I get it delivered everyday and TBH after all of this i'll probably cancel it and give my reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 That Murray fella is going on like a little girl, it's childish and tiresome, and for that reason, I won't be buying the Echo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 Murray is being head hunted by some Hunting, Fishing, Shooting magazine... He has been recomended by some Pleasant Flucker from the wilds of Gloustershire..... Apparently these two schoolboys have something very much in common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altoniansaints Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?v=app_2344061033&ref=name&id=737173078#/group.php?gid=275742367148 facebook group done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?v=app_2344061033&ref=name&id=737173078#/group.php?gid=275742367148 facebook group done 'After the recent articles printed in the echo which seam to be nothing more than sour grapes towards SFC i think a boycot is in order' Or seem!!!!!....can't sign up to this until this is corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 'After the recent articles printed in the echo which seam to be nothing more than sour grapes towards SFC i think a boycot is in order' Or seem!!!!!....can't sign up to this until this is corrected. and boycott has two t s. lets not stoop to the Echo's level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 I don't quite understand the dislike of the Echo, which is the only local paper we've got. They seemed to have upset NC by publishing material already in the public domain, and have then been banned from SMS when used by other organisations for non-football matters. Saints needs a local paper and the paper needs Saints. The two parties should sit down and talk to each other, but it's not quite as simple as just having a go at the Echo. How can a newspaper possibly agree not to write about what is already in the public domain?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoozer Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 Anyone have an email address for the editor of whom we speak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 (edited) I don't quite understand the dislike of the Echo, which is the only local paper we've got. They seemed to have upset NC by publishing material already in the public domain, and have then been banned from SMS when used by other organisations for non-football matters. Saints needs a local paper and the paper needs Saints. The two parties should sit down and talk to each other, but it's not quite as simple as just having a go at the Echo. How can a newspaper possibly agree not to write about what is already in the public domain?! Well said Clifford dont really know what the fuss is about the Echo just appears to be reporting things that have happened Edited 27 January, 2010 by John B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractor_Saint Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 I don't quite understand the dislike of the Echo, which is the only local paper we've got. They seemed to have upset NC by publishing material already in the public domain, and have then been banned from SMS when used by other organisations for non-football matters. Saints needs a local paper and the paper needs Saints. The two parties should sit down and talk to each other, but it's not quite as simple as just having a go at the Echo. How can a newspaper possibly agree not to write about what is already in the public domain?! It's the DE's 'hard done by' attitidue re: the charity event that really p***ed me off. How dare they try and use a Charity to make Cortese look bad - extremely unprofessional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 That Murray fella is going on like a little girl, it's childish and tiresome, and for that reason, I won't be buying the Echo. What is he actually going on about I thought the Echo were reporting things that had happened they cannot surely stop publishing things which Cortese may not like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 (edited) It's the DE's 'hard done by' attitidue re: the charity event that really p***ed me off. How dare they try and use a Charity to make Cortese look bad - extremely unprofessional. Sorry but they were only reporting what happened if Cortese had not banned them there would be no story. The Charity are apparently upset with SFC but if that is not the case you maybe right I thought the Charity were using the Echo to make SFC look bad Edited 27 January, 2010 by John B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 never bought a copy of the echo in my life. I'll boycott it quite easily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 never bought a copy of the echo in my life. I'll boycott it quite easily Dont think many people do theses days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 Regular buyer. Not now until that loser is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 I don't quite understand the dislike of the Echo, which is the only local paper we've got. They seemed to have upset NC by publishing material already in the public domain, and have then been banned from SMS when used by other organisations for non-football matters. Saints needs a local paper and the paper needs Saints. The two parties should sit down and talk to each other, but it's not quite as simple as just having a go at the Echo. How can a newspaper possibly agree not to write about what is already in the public domain?! Don't think Saints do need a local paper with the OS and also they can reach fans via key people such as forums as this. The Echo is a dismal paper run by dismal people and overall a dismal company (Newsquest). Look at how the Guardian has gone downhill since they bought it. If we do need a local paper, we don't need a faceless US corporation to provide it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Site Agent Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 (edited) Hot breaking News: An Un-named Project manager somewhere on the M1 claimed today that he alledgedly will not be buying his local newspaper ever again. The Project Manager, who uses a sudonym that he has had for many years, claims that he will not be buying it in the future as the poor journalistic standard and their capacity to 'shoot themselves in the foot' plus their incessant personal attacks on the Chairman of SFC had caused them to 'Get right on my man-tits'. 'He wont even just read the old copies left in his local chinky whilst he is waiting for his Sweet and Sour anymore.' Said a spokesman for a top 20 construction company, which has a commercial deal with the Project Manager, this morning. One experienced construction journalist, who writes for the Italian design magazine L’Arca , said: “Who? I have never heard of Secret Site Agent or any news of changes within his newpaper buying habits.' However, it has been reported in the National press that a Construction manager, who works for the Italian construction company TODINI COSTRUZIONI GENERALI SpA , said 'Yes, we know Secret Site Agent well, and we can confirm that he will, in future, be looking to cease the buying of his local paper. We are surprised that there are those claiming not to know him. Why, when he was last here for the European Road Constructors conference to lecture on Stone Mastic Asphalt, I remember him appearing with His Holiness the Pope in St. Peter's square on the landing and many people in the crowd, especially visitors to our great country from around the world, saying 'Whose that man up there stood next to Secret Site Agent?' As written on my Blackberry from my ever fertile mind. Edited 27 January, 2010 by Secret Site Agent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 27 January, 2010 Author Share Posted 27 January, 2010 Hot breaking News: An Un-named Project manager somewhere on the M1 claimed today that he alledgedly will not be buying his local newspaper ever again. The Project Manager, who uses a sudonym that he has had for many years, claims that he will not be buying it in the future as the poor journalistic standard and their capacity to 'shoot themselves in the foot' plus their incessant personal attacks on the Chairman of SFC had caused them to 'Get right on my man-tits'. 'He wont even just read the old copies left in his local chinky whilst he is waiting for his Sweet and Sour anymore.' Said a spokesman for a top 20 construction company, which has a commercial deal with the Project Manager, this morning. One experienced construction journalist, who writes for the Italian design magazine L’Arca , said: “Who? I have never heard of Secret Site Agent or any news of changes within his newpaper buying habits.' However, it has been reported in the National press that a Construction manager, who works for the Italian construction company TODINI COSTRUZIONI GENERALI SpA , said 'Yes, we know Secret Site Agent well, and we can confirm that he will, in future, be looking to cease the buying of his local paper. We are surprised that there are those claiming not to know him. Why, when he was last here for the European Road Constructors conference to lecture on Stone Mastic Asphalt, I remember him appearing with His Holiness the Pope in St. Peter's square on the landing and many people in the crowd, especially visitors to our great country from around the world, saying 'Whose that man up there stood next to Secret Site Agent?' As written on my Blackberry from my ever fertile mind. POTD (so far). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smith Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 I resolve never to buy the Southern (Ports***th) Echo ever again until the skate resigns! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 Well said Clifford dont really know what the fuss is about the Echo just appears to be reporting things that have happened The fuss as you put it is about an agreement NC had with The Echo. He planned to have a press conference to unveil the plans for the new training ground to the local media. He asked the echo to refrain from running the story until after the conference so they could be briefed on the plans. The Echo agreed to do so. Then the day before the conference The Echo ran the story. Claiming it was already in the public domain. Translated means "we wanted to cash in on it before it became a nothing story". Now i don't know about you, maybe you do things different to me but i would be ****ed off at them too for that. The Echo are supposed to be a local paper not a national paper. They should be having respect for all local organisations not trying to make money off them. Southampton FC have given The Echo a lot of inside stories over the years of which they have obviously made money from. Without that connection as others have mentioned The Echo becomes pretty pointless seeing as Saints are amongst if not their main draw story. The Echo should have loyalty and respect for the club due to the special access it had been granted for many years. By running the story early shows a clear action of mistrust. Could you tell these people your future plans and ask them to keep it secret? Journalists live by a un-written code which is to not print anything if you have been asked to wait. The national press could not give a fook about this rule but the local press are different. For example the people on BBC Solent. They have access to the club just as The Echo did and a few of them would of been totally aware of people who were in talks with the club. They could of mentioned those things on air and for all of 5mins had a scoop. One that would of been forgotten by the same time next week. But they don't do that. Because the relationship between the club and the local media is more intimate. The Echo went against that code to simply try and look good, to try and make extra money. If you are dis-loyal and go back on your word then you deserve the treatment you get. Since they were banned rather then try and mend the rift they have done everything they could to increase it and at the sametime create stories that are obviously personal to NC. By the looks of it they made them up. Each time a story like that appears the people become more aware just how bad The Echo has become. They are trying to create an image for NC that is the total opposite to how the fans and how the local organisations see him. So the "fuss" is that by running the story The Echo went back on an agreement and by doing so basically bite the hand that feeds them. Without Saints they are nothing, without the inside access to the club they have to fish for stories on the internet to try and create something. They should be ashamed of themselves and whoever fecked up the relationship with the club should be fired. They need to have a clear apology saying "my bad, we fooked up, sorry". Because they are clearly the ones in the wrong and by continuing to run a national style hate campaign will just drive away the remaining readers that they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 I will never ever ever buy the Southern Daily Echo ever again. I find them biased against the club I support and will never fund them ever again. Yours. Colin, 25, Coventry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 27 January, 2010 Author Share Posted 27 January, 2010 The fuss as you put it is about an agreement NC had with The Echo. He planned to have a press conference to unveil the plans for the new training ground to the local media. He asked the echo to refrain from running the story until after the conference so they could be briefed on the plans. The Echo agreed to do so. Then the day before the conference The Echo ran the story. Claiming it was already in the public domain. Translated means "we wanted to cash in on it before it became a nothing story". Now i don't know about you, maybe you do things different to me but i would be ****ed off at them too for that. The Echo are supposed to be a local paper not a national paper. They should be having respect for all local organisations not trying to make money off them. Southampton FC have given The Echo a lot of inside stories over the years of which they have obviously made money from. Without that connection as others have mentioned The Echo becomes pretty pointless seeing as Saints are amongst if not their main draw story. The Echo should have loyalty and respect for the club due to the special access it had been granted for many years. By running the story early shows a clear action of mistrust. Could you tell these people your future plans and ask them to keep it secret? Journalists live by a un-written code which is to not print anything if you have been asked to wait. The national press could not give a fook about this rule but the local press are different. For example the people on BBC Solent. They have access to the club just as The Echo did and a few of them would of been totally aware of people who were in talks with the club. They could of mentioned those things on air and for all of 5mins had a scoop. One that would of been forgotten by the same time next week. But they don't do that. Because the relationship between the club and the local media is more intimate. The Echo went against that code to simply try and look good, to try and make extra money. If you are dis-loyal and go back on your word then you deserve the treatment you get. Since they were banned rather then try and mend the rift they have done everything they could to increase it and at the sametime create stories that are obviously personal to NC. By the looks of it they made them up. Each time a story like that appears the people become more aware just how bad The Echo has become. They are trying to create an image for NC that is the total opposite to how the fans and how the local organisations see him. So the "fuss" is that by running the story The Echo went back on an agreement and by doing so basically bite the hand that feeds them. Without Saints they are nothing, without the inside access to the club they have to fish for stories on the internet to try and create something. They should be ashamed of themselves and whoever fecked up the relationship with the club should be fired. They need to have a clear apology saying "my bad, we fooked up, sorry". Because they are clearly the ones in the wrong and by continuing to run a national style hate campaign will just drive away the remaining readers that they have. Excellent explanation Marco. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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