Echo marks for saturday

[Turkish]

were they at the game??

 

Ostsemebor 7 "probably his best display for saints"

Puncheon 8 - WTF?!!! I think he is a class player but he was poor, okay he set up the goal but how many times he did he hog it or make the wrong pass or give it away in a good position

Seabourne - 7 "A decent showing" err, no it wasn't constantly beaten in the air by both players he was up against.

 

i'd give them all 5's.

[benjii]

I think they all deserve a 6.

[Red And White Barmy Army]

puncheon was a 5 at best. was the worst player on the pitch by a country mile i'm afraid. no wonder he hit that poor kid in the chappel in the warm-up - that was the closest he came to scoring all day.

 

nevertheless, i cant fault seabourne for his work rate and the fact he kept a clean sheet despite being beaten aerially sometimes. semi's positioning going forward was dodgy at times and could have left us needlessly exposed, but he still managed a couple of decent crosses from deep. 6.7 for both IMO.

[Toomer]

puncheon was a 5 at best. was the worst player on the pitch by a country mile i'm afraid. no wonder he hit that poor kid in the chappel in the warm-up - that was the closest he came to scoring all day.

nevertheless, i cant fault seabourne for his work rate and the fact he kept a clean sheet despite being beaten aerially sometimes. semi's positioning going forward was dodgy at times and could have left us needlessly exposed, but he still managed a couple of decent crosses from deep. 6.7 for both IMO.

 

And that cost him his shirt off his back.

[krissyboy31]

I though Punch had a good game tbh. Some of the things he tried didn't come off and some of his passes went astray but his work-rate was phenomenal. He was nearly always on the ball, must have touched it and been in possession of it at least twice as much as the next player on the park. Always an outlet and always a danger.

[Turkish]

puncheon was a 5 at best. was the worst player on the pitch by a country mile i'm afraid. no wonder he hit that poor kid in the chappel in the warm-up - that was the closest he came to scoring all day.

 

nevertheless, i cant fault seabourne for his work rate and the fact he kept a clean sheet despite being beaten aerially sometimes. semi's positioning going forward was dodgy at times and could have left us needlessly exposed, but he still managed a couple of decent crosses from deep. 6.7 for both IMO.

 

i worried evertime the ball went near Seabourne, didnt look comfortable and hardly won a header all day. Wwe were lucky Fonte and Harding were outstanding either side of him as he looked dodgy, might be due to being rusty due to lack of games?

[Brussels Saint]

I noticed lots of people were complaining that Punch & AL were hogging the ball too much, but if you listen to AP's post match comments, these were essentially his instructions. Basically along the lines of he told them both to try to dribble past and beat a man with a piece individual skill, as he felt it would bring us a goal. He added that usually it won't come off, but he only needs it to work once.

 

Anyone else hear that?

[The9]

I wouldn't give anyone an 8 if they played an unpressurised crossfield ball ten yards behind the target and straight off the park, no matter what they did in the rest of the match.

 

Well, ok, maybe a hat-trick.

 

Thought Seaborne was too reactive and not anticipating enough, and always looks 5 yards from where he should be. There seems to be a LOT more space around our defence when he plays compared to Jaidi, but he won plenty in the air (though he did also hack one skywards towards Kelvin near the end, for which he got a look and a half from Fonte, along with some notable eyebrow raising).

 

I think Seaborne is probably Pardew's worst signing so far, but he's young and should improve with a little bit of experience. Not exactly what I'd want in the side at the sharp end of the season though.

[Pip]

I noticed lots of people were complaining that Punch & AL were hogging the ball too much, but if you listen to AP's post match comments, these were essentially his instructions. Basically along the lines of he told them both to try to dribble past and beat a man with a piece individual skill, as he felt it would bring us a goal. He added that usually it won't come off, but he only needs it to work once.

 

Anyone else hear that?

 

 

I think I read that in the Echo today. I certainly felt he should be cut a bit more slack if he was following instructions.

[Saint_Mabes]

I thought Puncheon was rubbish, semi ok and Seabourne good. But I thought Hammond and Morgan were rubbish. No doubt some people thought they had blinders!

[RonManager]

http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2022435,00.html

[krissyboy31]

I thought Puncheon was rubbish, semi ok and Seabourne good. But I thought Hammond and Morgan were rubbish. No doubt some people thought they had blinders!

I see we got stuffed then! Oh no, wait a minute. We beat a good team and kept a clean sheet. Not bad for a team full of rubbish players!

[Saint_Mabes]

Ha! I'm not usually negative but didn't think it was our best game. But do agree it was a fantastic result. I've turned into my worst knightmare - one of the moaners! I do appologise!

[MorningtonCrescent]

Few players shone for Saints, but by the same token none were poor!

 

Seabourne hasn't yet enjoyed a run in the side with a regular partner. He played a solid game alongside Fonte - who it appears can do no wrong. Between them they kept the Charlton forwards under wraps for the majority of the game. Fonte had a number of moments where he was under no pressure at all and yet headed the ball a few yards straight to a Charlton midfielder! But, hey, it must've been Seabourne's fault! **rolly eyed smiley thingy**

 

Punchy was all over the pitch and was probably the only player who constantly looked for the ball and also tried to beat his marker. Ok, sometimes it worked and others it didn't. If he beat his man every time, he wouldn't be playing Div 3 football! He also made some poor choices when presented with options (yes - Saints actually had players moving off the ball and creating options!). Again, some days they'll get every decision right, others they choose badly.

 

Semi DID play probably one of his best games. Remember, he too has been in and out of the side. He IS a very profficient, specialist right back. Something we were all crying out for when Lloyd was being skinned every week down that flank! Give him time and he'll come good - or AP won't be signing him during the summer. Simple.

 

For me, all three deserved at least a "6", perhaps even a "7" or "8" for Punchy just for actually creating the goal that won us 3 points.

[Turkish]

I noticed lots of people were complaining that Punch & AL were hogging the ball too much, but if you listen to AP's post match comments, these were essentially his instructions. Basically along the lines of he told them both to try to dribble past and beat a man with a piece individual skill, as he felt it would bring us a goal. He added that usually it won't come off, but he only needs it to work once.

 

Anyone else hear that?

 

To be honest i'd rather AP got them playing like Barcelona or Spain, their style of play seems to work.

[AussieDog]

We just got back from the game today (yes, you read that right....lol) so this is the first time I've read anything about the game. I thought Kelvin deserved a 9 for his performance, and I thought everyone played better than they did in the other 2 games we saw (with th exception of Lallana, as he had a blinder against Orient). Puncheon was a big disappointment overall though.

Although we loved the cut and thrust of the game, and the atmosphere from the crowd, I still felt we were only playing at about 65% of our potential. We need to step it up or our season is over tomorrow.

[spyinthesky]

Seabourne reminds me a bit of Richard Dryden. Keen and strong but not quite up to the mark.

 

Agree with a previous poster who said that Seabourne is AP's least effective signing.

 

Thought he was rather lacking when playing for Exeter here at Xmas.

 

Still most managers reckon that if they get 4 out of 5 signings right they have done well!!

S

[John B]

Seabourne reminds me a bit of Richard Dryden. Keen and strong but not quite up to the mark.

 

Agree with a previous poster who said that Seabourne is AP's least effective signing.

 

Thought he was rather lacking when playing for Exeter here at Xmas.

 

Still most managers reckon that if they get 4 out of 5 signings right they have done well!!

S

 

Unfortunately somebody has to be the least effective signing but as I have only seen him a couple of times I can not properly judge

[Block 5]

were they at the game??

 

Ostsemebor 7 "probably his best display for saints"

Puncheon 8 - WTF?!!! I think he is a class player but he was poor, okay he set up the goal but how many times he did he hog it or make the wrong pass or give it away in a good position

Seabourne - 7 "A decent showing" err, no it wasn't constantly beaten in the air by both players he was up against.

 

i'd give them all 5's.

 

I disagree.

Puncheon, Lallana and Antonio scared the shoite out of Charlton.

 

However you are bang on with your assessment of Seabourne, he lost the aerial battle time and time again. Jaidi he ain't. We will need to seriously strengthen at CB next season no matter what league we're in.

[bubblyone]

Ha! I'm not usually negative but didn't think it was our best game. But do agree it was a fantastic result. I've turned into my worst knightmare - one of the moaners! I do appologise!

hi hi

[SaintBobby]

Puncheon was busy - but enfuriating.

 

I thought Antonio was quite good - except when he fluffed that 4-on-1 pass on the counter attack.

 

Seabourne is okay-ish - but compares unfavourably (unfairly) to Fonte who is a cut above (although made a couple of unusual errors on Saturday)

 

Kelvin was MOTM surely?

[Turkish]

I disagree.

Puncheon, Lallana and Antonio scared the shoite out of Charlton.

 

However you are bang on with your assessment of Seabourne, he lost the aerial battle time and time again. Jaidi he ain't. We will need to seriously strengthen at CB next season no matter what league we're in.

 

Agree that they were scared of them, and Lallana and Antonio played well, but i dont think Puncheon did, two incidents that stick out in my mind, first half we had a break of 4 on 1 he had time and space to pick a pass which would surely have lead to a goal scoring opportunity and put it 10 yards behind Lallana and went out for a Charlton thrown in, second half fairly late on, he ran with the ball about 30 yards, loads of chances to play in Barnard i think it was on the saints right, delayed and delayed and ending up and ended up passing the ball to the Charlton defend. I think he was a threat and as i've already said i really rate him but his end product was poor on saturday.

[Block 5]

Agree that they were scared of them, and Lallana and Antonio played well, but i dont think Puncheon did, two incidents that stick out in my mind, first half we had a break of 4 on 1 he had time and space to pick a pass which would surely have lead to a goal scoring opportunity and put it 10 yards behind Lallana and went out for a Charlton thrown in, second half fairly late on, he ran with the ball about 30 yards, loads of chances to play in Barnard i think it was on the saints right, delayed and delayed and ending up and ended up passing the ball to the Charlton defend. I think he was a threat and as i've already said i really rate him but his end product was poor on saturday.

 

Good point mate. I remember being frustrated too.

It's fair to say that any defence in L1 or even the CCC would be bricking it with Lallana, Punchy and Antonio running at them.

[benjii]

Seabourne has loads of potential. I can't believe people are slating him but then I'm often left scratching my head on here!

[RonManager]

Seabourne has loads of potential. I can't believe people are slating him but then I'm often left scratching my head on here!

 

Are you saying this forum has head lice? :confused:

[Saint_lambden]

Not as bad as THE SUN today giving Davis a 6/10 !!!!!!

 

Did they not see his 3 saves that kept us in it?!

[benjii]

I would be amazed if the Sun actually had a correspondent at the match!

[st alex]

Seaborne seems to be getting a fair bit of stick, I thought he played well for about 80 mins and then started to feel the pressure towards the end, although to be honest I'm glad he's come in. As for the last few games Jaidi's played I thought he looked very suspect (fine at attacking aerial balls, but on numerous occasions seemed to be increadibly casual / almost ignore balls down the channel or on the ground).

 

Semi I thought had a bad game, and I felt very nervous when their winger was attacking us as he stood off too much, would have felt more comfortable with James tbh.

[Fan The Flames]

We just got back from the game today (yes, you read that right....lol) so this is the first time I've read anything about the game. I thought Kelvin deserved a 9 for his performance, and I thought everyone played better than they did in the other 2 games we saw (with th exception of Lallana, as he had a blinder against Orient). Puncheon was a big disappointment overall though.

Although we loved the cut and thrust of the game, and the atmosphere from the crowd, I still felt we were only playing at about 65% of our potential. We need to step it up or our season is over tomorrow.

 

Well played, now you are back on Oz you will have to get up early for the play off final.

[AussieDog]

For sure.....that's if it is even televised, although I am pretty sure I should be able to find an internet feed somewhere if push comes to shove.....

 

....but let's get the next 6 games out of the way first, shall we? lol