doddisalegend Posted 24 August, 2010 Share Posted 24 August, 2010 All right it's still early days of the season but in four games a quick count of the BBC match stats suggests we've had 58 attempts on goal and we've converted three:cry:. I don't get it we're creating loads of chances and last season we were a free scoring side. Barnard can't seem to buy a goal and Lambert still looks of the pace, surely though we should of tucked away a few more out of 58 attempts? I'm just hoping whatever is missing clicks on saturday if we actually start converting all these chances someones going to be on the end of a thrashing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 24 August, 2010 Share Posted 24 August, 2010 I understand your point - but if we are going to score 6 then I would prefer six 1 - 0 wins and settle for the points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 24 August, 2010 Share Posted 24 August, 2010 It will click, and someone is going to get a tonking from us. Though Lambert looked very poor tonight, and didn't look sharp...still off the pace IMO. Feel sorry for Barnie at the moment. He looks quick, sharp, good on the ball and getting good shots, just isn't hitting the back of the net at the moment. Sometime very soon I think it will click though ! Lets hope so ! Coys, WIFM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 24 August, 2010 Author Share Posted 24 August, 2010 It will click, and someone is going to get a tonking from us. Though Lambert looked very poor tonight, and didn't look sharp...still off the pace IMO. Feel sorry for Barnie at the moment. He looks quick, sharp, good on the ball and getting good shots, just isn't hitting the back of the net at the moment. Sometime very soon I think it will click though ! Lets hope so ! Coys, WIFM I don't Know what Barnard has to do to get a goal it must be driving him nuts, he looked really ****ed on saturday. As for Lambert somethings not right, 3 free kicks tonight and not one went in I'd put my house on Lambert getting a goal if a team give him three free kicks in dangerous postions in one match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 24 August, 2010 Share Posted 24 August, 2010 I think that we are missing Antonio and Waigo. When things were going like this a year ago one or other or both of them were brought on and it seemed to break the deadlock. Only because they brought something different to the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 25 August, 2010 Share Posted 25 August, 2010 I can see a draw Saturday, increasing the pressure than smashing Rochdale at home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Strover Posted 25 August, 2010 Share Posted 25 August, 2010 It wouldn't surprise me if we lost Saturday - everyone is expecting us to win, loads of people will be quoting last season and the 5-1 and 3-2 wins at Bristol Rovers and I can see us battering them and then losing 2-1. Mind you I have been wrong so many times before - hopefully I'll be wrong this time. For some reason I've not been optimistic about this season since before a ball was kicked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patred44 Posted 25 August, 2010 Share Posted 25 August, 2010 Simple.. we cant cross a quality ball.. Puncheon plays better on the left, crosses the ball better from the left... Swap him and Lallana, perhaps then we can turn the oppositions defence Lumping balls into the box is doing no favours to Ricky or Barny. Signing Antonio will help, at least his extra pace will be something different, and will give the opposition some hairy moments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 25 August, 2010 Share Posted 25 August, 2010 Something is not right. If we need 1 -1 1.5 months to get in the groove for this season (forcing us to play catch-up), what's the f**king point in pre-season ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 25 August, 2010 Author Share Posted 25 August, 2010 Simple.. we cant cross a quality ball.. Puncheon plays better on the left, crosses the ball better from the left... Swap him and Lallana, perhaps then we can turn the oppositions defence Lumping balls into the box is doing no favours to Ricky or Barny. Signing Antonio will help, at least his extra pace will be something different, and will give the opposition some hairy moments. I don't agree we are not struggling for chances at all (58 in four games) it's that final ball to put it in the back of the net that seems to be the problem. If our crossing/dead ball delivery was better, your right it can be awful at times. We'd have even more chances but if the strikers can do the last vital bit it won't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 25 August, 2010 Author Share Posted 25 August, 2010 Something is not right. If we need 1 -1 1.5 months to get in the groove for this season (forcing us to play catch-up), what's the f**king point in pre-season ? In fairness three of our key players where injuried in pre season and it still shows with Lambert and Lallana. Barnard played a lot in pre-season though as did Connolly yet niether seem to able to find the back of the net which can't be becuase of pre-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 25 August, 2010 Share Posted 25 August, 2010 Lambert was poor last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'00' Posted 25 August, 2010 Share Posted 25 August, 2010 I think that we are missing Antonio and Waigo. When things were going like this a year ago one or other or both of them were brought on and it seemed to break the deadlock. Only because they brought something different to the table. Spot on.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 25 August, 2010 Share Posted 25 August, 2010 I think that we are missing Antonio and Waigo. When things were going like this a year ago one or other or both of them were brought on and it seemed to break the deadlock. Only because they brought something different to the table. I note everyone else is allowed to say it now, and I got abuse for having the foresight to say it at least 1 month ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 25 August, 2010 Share Posted 25 August, 2010 thats not why you got abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 25 August, 2010 Share Posted 25 August, 2010 Although we have obvious quality with Lambert, Barnard and Connolly, I think that you need to freshen up the front line with a single quality addition; a target man. This does not in itself explain why we are not putting the ball in the net in our first few games, but would allow us to rest Lambert (if he is carrying a knock or unfit, as it seems at present) and mix things up, both in terms of personnel and formation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 25 August, 2010 Share Posted 25 August, 2010 The team as a whole is just not match fit - pre-season was a joke. The first team only really played 2 maybe 3'very friendly' games. That's why they are off the pace and not scoring. It also means the new players like Dickson had no chance to bed themselves into the team. If Lambert, Puncheon and Lallana were injured it wouldn't have helped either I guess. Still we got nothing on the bench to change the game and no pace in the team. In terms of signing players we needed to make a strong challenge for promotion and putting together a decent pre-season programme Pardew and Cortese have let us down. Now they are going to have to pull some signings out of the hat and hope our form picks up before it's too late. With Hudds and Sheff Weds as well as Peterborough, Plymouth and Swindon in the running this division is already much harder than I think they thought it was going to be - and promotion let alone automatic promotion is far from assured. We needed to start the season running at full pace - at the moment we don't even seem to be jogging along. We're still missing a playmaker in CM and possibly a decent holding midfielder as well. We also need pace and possibly one or two wingers and a fast striker. We also still need another big centre forward to cover for Lambert. And it now looks like we need another CB to play alongside Fonte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 25 August, 2010 Share Posted 25 August, 2010 I don't agree we are not struggling for chances at all (58 in four games) it's that final ball to put it in the back of the net that seems to be the problem. If our crossing/dead ball delivery was better, your right it can be awful at times. We'd have even more chances but if the strikers can do the last vital bit it won't help. When your strikers are not doing it you need more goal threat from other areas, which is why, when your strikes are all marked up the CM players need to be a real threat. The best teams get goals from CM in these situations. We don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 25 August, 2010 Share Posted 25 August, 2010 Spot on!... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West End Saint Posted 25 August, 2010 Share Posted 25 August, 2010 I would be more worried if we were'nt creating the chances with the proven goal scorers we have in the side it will click. I agree that as a side we dont look fit enough and pre season was'nt as high tempo as it should have been maybe Pards was protecting the players a bit pre season? We need Antonio or some one like him we havent got the ability to change the shape of the game from the bench we are desperate for some genuine pace power someone who is direct and can cuase mayhem. I like the Oxy chamberlin looks like a good prospect but it is to much to ask for him to be the difference but I am sure he has a part to play this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadia Sllim Posted 25 August, 2010 Share Posted 25 August, 2010 I think we as supporters and the team, once the ball is with Lambert then job done and a goal is imminent (sp)! Lambert is not fit at the moment and Barnard just needs a bit of luck. Draw Saturday and O'Neil will be in by 10th Sept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 25 August, 2010 Share Posted 25 August, 2010 Lambert is lacking fitness and sharpness, which affects our general play and contributes to our ''bluntness' But i believe the main reason we're struggling to score is because we're not opening teams up down the sides, we're trying to walk it through the middle where it seems to get very congested. All the talk on solent last night was that our new player this week is going to be a winger, but they couldn't reveal any names. Watch the goals flow once we start getting wide down the flanks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 25 August, 2010 Share Posted 25 August, 2010 We need another striker IMO if Lambert gets injured LB or DC are not good enough to lead the strike force we need another striker whos at least 5ft11 because DC and LB are only 5ft8/9 and they cant win everything in the air and we seem to lob it forward quite alot plus im starting to think LB cant play with RL. Are defence looked good last night keeping two prem strikers quiet who both scored vs West ham and IMO are midfield is quality anyway so AP please buy a striker or loan a quick young powerfull striker from a prem team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 25 August, 2010 Author Share Posted 25 August, 2010 When your strikers are not doing it you need more goal threat from other areas, which is why, when your strikes are all marked up the CM players need to be a real threat. The best teams get goals from CM in these situations. We don't. Surely Lallana provided our midfield goals last season (was it twenty?) although from wide rather than CM. We didn't have a regular CM scorer last year and had no problems scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 25 August, 2010 Author Share Posted 25 August, 2010 Lots of interesting answers but most of the theories put forward (not getting down the flanks not good enough crossing not opening up teams etc) would surely be symptoms of not creating enough chances? That is simply not the case we're creating tons of attempts on goal but they're not going in when last year they would have. We're playing teams off the park according to the match stats (and my own eyes agree) what we're not doing is putting those chances in the onion bag and thats what I can't understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 25 August, 2010 Share Posted 25 August, 2010 I think we need an away game to release the pressure of home games. I think we will win on Saturday and we will click into place. I have no doubt that we have the best team in this league and we create enough chances, but every team goes through the same problem for a few games a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 25 August, 2010 Share Posted 25 August, 2010 I'm predicting another 5-1 win at Brizzle on saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 25 August, 2010 Share Posted 25 August, 2010 It's alright, I've found it - it was down the back of the sofa. Right, everything should be fine now. Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 25 August, 2010 Share Posted 25 August, 2010 I think that we are missing Antonio and Waigo. When things were going like this a year ago one or other or both of them were brought on and it seemed to break the deadlock. Only because they brought something different to the table. I think this is far too easy a statement/excuse to make. Has anyone actually compiled any stats to show how many league games last year we had where one or both of these players came on when we were at a stalemate and actually changed the game/result? I think it would make interesting reading, either way. I can certainly remember when Antonio tore Bristol Rovers a new one, but he started that game. And Papa did a lot in the JPT. But I just wonder if its a distortion of reality that we remember them actually coming on in ltight league games when we were looking lost and providing the answer to all of our problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 29 August, 2010 Share Posted 29 August, 2010 I think we need an away game to release the pressure of home games. I think we will win on Saturday and we will click into place. I have no doubt that we have the best team in this league and we create enough chances, but every team goes through the same problem for a few games a season. As many did say, we needed an away game, I have no fear that we will go up!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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