Wilkins 'admits' management failure to make signings

[Professor]

All summer a lot of fans have been concerned and surprised at the limited signings, especially as the need was even greater with the loss of the fast, wide players. Interesting to see Dean Wilkins saying they tried to bring more than one player in before the window closed, although a lot of people would say it was all left far too late. The line taken by some, that the club were just waiting to get better players at the last minute now looks mistaken, but was the lack of signings down to Pardew, or was it other factors, including willingness to spend?

 

Whether or not the transfer policy was a factor in the Pardew sacking maybe we will learn at some point, but if the failure to bring players in is down to management, then surely Cortese shares in that failure?

[Made in Southampton]

Where has he 'Admitted' this?

[alpine_saint]

Whichever way you cut it, the entire summer was a f**king waste.

 

We didnt hit the ground running, we fell on our f**king arse.

[Toadhall Saint]

Not seen any such admission TBH.

 

That being said we got the defenders in we needed but did not replace the pace we lost and will suffer for it over the course of the season. No defender likes to face a pacey player running at them.

[lordswoodsaints]

If true,the transfer Market is always going to be a gamble,waiting for better players is stupid IMO because those players may not become available...... The best policy is to identify 2 or 3 players that could do the job in your desired position and then pursue the best player identified followed by the second and so on.

Get in early and the player can do his settling in period during the close season get in late and the player will be settling in for the first few months of the season.

 

The decision makers should have realised that there would be a possibility the loan signings would not be allowed to stay and they should have drawn up a list of replacements.....this obviously wasn't done,the consequences being panic buys or no buys at all........not really a great decision for a club that was tipped to walk this league back into the championship.

[Wildgoose]

DW said on Saints Player that the they tried to bring some players in but couldn't do it. Still hoping to bring in a couple of loans.

[Deppo]

He had admitted it! Finally they have stopped with their lies and deceit. The truth is the victor!

[doddisalegend]

I can't help thinking money plays apart, a lot of us were guility of assuming we had money to burn in a Man city way. I think we spent most of our transfer budget last january. Despite what many of us thought the club seems to have become more frugal with it's spending. We're living within our means, sure our means are much greater than most other league one clubs but it's not a bottomless pot either.

[Smirking_Saint]

I can't help thinking money plays apart, a lot of us were guility of assuming we had money to burn in a Man city way. I think we spent most of our transfer budget last january. Despite what many of us thought the club seems to have become more frugal with it's spending. We're living within our means, sure our means are much greater than most other league one clubs but it's not a bottomless pot either.

 

I don't.

 

Pardew clearly had cash to spend, this is due to the fact he kept saying he was looking to bring players in. He said himself he made approaches to players but he wasn't happy with their commitment and so turned them down. He then went on to say he was waiting for the 25 man squad lists so he could pick up better players and waited to ensure he didn't miss out on signing better players. Truth is, he did miss out.

 

Everyone knew we needed a back up to Rickie and a new CM. Now we are stuck with 1 fit striker in DC and are struggling so we are playing an injured Lambert up front which IMO is a catastrophe waiting to happen.

 

We have f*cked up, i held some faith that the signings would come and they didn't, may i be the first to apologise to Alpine who although i still think he was premature when he bemoaned the lack of signings is now spot on. We should have been ready this season, instead we are players short, short on form and managerless (for one reason or another)

[The Kraken]

All summer a lot of fans have been concerned and surprised at the limited signings, especially as the need was even greater with the loss of the fast, wide players. Interesting to see Dean Wilkins saying they tried to bring more than one player in before the window closed, although a lot of people would say it was all left far too late. The line taken by some, that the club were just waiting to get better players at the last minute now looks mistaken, but was the lack of signings down to Pardew, or was it other factors, including willingness to spend?

 

Whether or not the transfer policy was a factor in the Pardew sacking maybe we will learn at some point, but if the failure to bring players in is down to management, then surely Cortese shares in that failure?

 

What exactly has Wilkins said, and where? It perhaps would be beneficial to at least post a link to what he actually said?

[Saint Fan CaM]

Whichever way you cut it, the entire summer was a f**king waste.

 

We didnt hit the ground running, we fell on our f**king arse.

 

Come Alps, how can you possible support this statement?!?

 

We have 4 points which is more than we had after the same number of games last season and have brought in 4 players in areas we needed to. We have given a half decent Prem side a good run for their money and won the last game 0-4.

 

OK, it's not been thoroughly overwhelming, but why was it a waste? And how have we fallen on our arse?! Totally over the top and the evidence is just not there at the moment to prove anything like that!

[madruss]

He had admitted it! Finally they have stopped with their lies and deceit. The truth is the victor!

 

You've broken my sarcasm detector you b*stard

[Guan 2.0]

He had admitted it! Finally they have stopped with their lies and deceit. The truth is the victor!

 

I'm just glad the club have stop repeating their oft-made claim that we have signed ghost players, and we simply can't detect them without a PKE Meter.

 

Wise up Cortese, we're not all so easily fooled!

[modern matron]

I don't.

 

Pardew clearly had cash to spend, this is due to the fact he kept saying he was looking to bring players in. He said himself he made approaches to players but he wasn't happy with their commitment and so turned them down. He then went on to say he was waiting for the 25 man squad lists so he could pick up better players and waited to ensure he didn't miss out on signing better players. Truth is, he did miss out.

 

Everyone knew we needed a back up to Rickie and a new CM. Now we are stuck with 1 fit striker in DC and are struggling so we are playing an injured Lambert up front which IMO is a catastrophe waiting to happen.

 

We have f*cked up, i held some faith that the signings would come and they didn't, may i be the first to apologise to Alpine who although i still think he was premature when he bemoaned the lack of signings is now spot on. We should have been ready this season, instead we are players short, short on form and managerless (for one reason or another)

 

Spot on. This was AP's fault. The gaps were there since the end of last season when Papa and Antonio left.

[The Kraken]

Come Alps, how can you possible support this statement?!?

 

We have 4 points which is more than we had after the same number of games last season and have brought in 4 players in areas we needed to. We have given a half decent Prem side a good run for their money and won the last game 0-4.

 

OK, it's not been thoroughly overwhelming, but why was it a waste? And how have we fallen on our arse?! Totally over the top and the evidence is just not there at the moment to prove anything like that!

 

It's over the top of course, as usual, but the criticism is half fair. All summer long everyone agreed that we needed 3 more players (CM, RM, CF); some people were prepared to be more patient than others in terms of when they arrived, as most expected the current squad to be more thank capable of getting off to a strong start.

 

What we seemingly have now is a stuttering team (Bristol Rovers performance aside), fitness doubts over our best players, and still short of the 3 players our previous manager deemed necessary for the campaign ahead.

 

Clotese has led the way in a series of failings at the club this summer.

[buctootim]

Spot on. This was AP's fault. The gaps were there since the end of last season when Papa and Antonio left.

 

Reminds me a bit of when saggy was clearly keen to get out. Didnt target any signings, even though the gaps were obvious.

[up and away]

He had admitted it! Finally they have stopped with their lies and deceit. The truth is the victor!

 

? Pardew clearly stated this previously, no lies or deceit, just a strategy that was adopted. Until everything pans out, it is still difficult to decide whether this has cost us or not. With the right loan player/s, that bad start can easily be over turned with greater overall gains possibly to come.

 

Our present situation is a bit more difficult due to injuries and we will have to sort this out through loans. The quality of which will decide whether this action is correct or not. Pretty sure this was Pardew's idea with his explanation to the fans and request to have faith.

[doddisalegend]

Spot on. This was AP's fault. The gaps were there since the end of last season when Papa and Antonio left.

 

And you know for a fact he was getting full support from NC do you? We don't what NC was prepared to sanction by all accounts new players had to be passed by a committe. Prehaps that was the final straw in AP leaving. The whole of the club management has to take the blame for this and even then we don't know what goes on behind closed doors. Do we know for a fact we have money to burn for new players.

[Deppo]

Prehaps that was the final straw in AP leaving.

 

He didn't leave. He was sacked. Apart from that, what a lovely theory.

[Saint Fan CaM]

It's over the top of course, as usual, but the criticism is half fair. All summer long everyone agreed that we needed 3 more players (CM, RM, CF); some people were prepared to be more patient than others in terms of when they arrived, as most expected the current squad to be more thank capable of getting off to a strong start.

 

What we seemingly have now is a stuttering team (Bristol Rovers performance aside), fitness doubts over our best players, and still short of the 3 players our previous manager deemed necessary for the campaign ahead.

 

Clotese has led the way in a series of failings at the club this summer.

 

Of the three positions you mention, we have only failed to fill the CF slot....(Guly and Alex O-C have filled the others). My feeling is that the reason we've not sorted this is because it was always going to be a position to be filled by a loanee. Our current forward line will need re-evaluating if we get promoted to the CCC I would suggest and this might need significant expenditure - so why spend that money now?

[WATERSIDEIFASAINT]

If we lose today our start to the season has been a bloody disaster.If we had brought in the players we had needed to strenthen the squad this would not have happened imo.

 

I fear we could be heading for a very disappointing season and todays game will be a very good pointer.No disrespect to Rochdale but if we can't beat them at home then the play offs let alone automatic promotion will become a distant dream.

 

In a season that should have brought so much every Saints fan I know and that is a lot are all totally turned off from the football thanks to NC'S actions.We will be lucky to get £15k today against Rochdale.

 

This whole mess is NC's making(unless he communicates and tells us otherwise)and he needs to sort it out very fast unless this season could be beyond us by the time things do get sorted.Who fancies us beating Swindon,MK Dons,Colchester and Sheff Wed our next 4 games after today with the players current state of mind?

 

Currently very fed up ,angry and dissillusioned like many others I know.Its upto NC now to change this self inflicted mess!!

[The Kraken]

Of the three positions you mention, we have only failed to fill the CF slot....(Guly and Alex O-C have filled the others). My feeling is that the reason we've not sorted this is because it was always going to be a position to be filled by a loanee. Our current forward line will need re-evaluating if we get promoted to the CCC I would suggest and this might need significant expenditure - so why spend that money now?

 

No, I just don't agree with that I'm afraid. Guly can in no way be considered backup to Hammond or Schneiderlin; he adds to our options in giving us a new dimension but he is not a replacement for the current midfield duo. If one of them wereinjured I would expect (unfortunately) Wotton to fill in for them, and not Guly.

 

Chamberlain may well prove to be a great player, but having just turned 17 he needs to be nurtured slowly and not thrown in at the deep end. He will have dips in form and also need rest, so to say he fills the void left by Antonio and Waigo on the right hand side is just not right.

 

And as you say the CF slot remains unfilled.

 

So, while I think we have added to the strength of the squad by signing Guly, he in no way fits the need of a traditional CM or RM, so we're still missing in those 3 areas. Pardew knew about Chamberlain yet still said he needed to strengthen there, so I don't see why we shoudl pretend that we now don't need to, just because we've failed to sign anyone.

[doddisalegend]

If we lose today our start to the season has been a bloody disaster.If we had brought in the players we had needed to strenthen the squad this would not have happened imo.

 

I fear we could be heading for a very disappointing season and todays game will be a very good pointer.No disrespect to Rochdale but if we can't beat them at home then the play offs let alone automatic promotion will become a distant dream.

 

In a season that should have brought so much every Saints fan I know and that is a lot are all totally turned off from the football thanks to NC'S actions.We will be lucky to get £15k today against Rochdale.

 

This whole mess is NC's making(unless he communicates and tells us otherwise)and he needs to sort it out very fast unless this season could be beyond us by the time things do get sorted.Who fancies us beating Swindon,MK Dons,Colchester and Sheff Wed our next 4 games after today with the players current state of mind?

 

Currently very fed up ,angry and dissillusioned like many others I know.Its upto NC now to change this self inflicted mess!!

 

No NC is above critiscim if it wasn't for him we'd have no club, it's all APs doing

[Torres]

And if we win today?

[Legod Third Coming]

Whichever way you cut it, the entire summer was a f**king waste.

 

We didnt hit the ground running, we fell on our f**king arse.

 

We disagree on many things but this never. Two year's running pre-season whas been wasted.

[alpine_saint]

And if we win today?

 

[Kingsbridge Saint]

Boy do we need some new players. Puncheon is not good enough by a country mile, and we are completely toothless up front. We create nothing, defend like amateurs and freeze whenever we create an opening. We fall over the ball, run it out of play, knock the pass a yard too far, lack a first touch. Just fecking useless from 1 to 11. Rip it up and start again.

[Robsk II]

Puncheon wasn't terrible - just couldn't shoot for **** and didn't pick the right options a good number of times. Had a bad day, but was industrious. More than can be said for some others. But sure, if he keeps doing it, he can sod off.

[alpine_saint]

Boy do we need some new players. Puncheon is not good enough by a country mile, and we are completely toothless up front. We create nothing, defend like amateurs and freeze whenever we create an opening. We fall over the ball, run it out of play, knock the pass a yard too far, lack a first touch. Just fecking useless from 1 to 11. Rip it up and start again.

 

I would think seriously about how many of these players I would want to keep after their gutless disinterested performances over the last two games.

[The Kraken]

We really need a manager to come in and knock a few heads together. This team is good enough, they just need to bloody realise that they have to earn victories. It's almost as if we're just waiting for the breakthrough to come, lots of pressure but no real invention in and around the box.

 

Our "star players" need to man up and get the bloody job done. And that'll only start to happen with an authoritative figure in charge, too many excuses for the team to hide behind right now.

[Under Weststand]

Forget for a minute the poor forward play & unable to break down even the likes of Rochdale. The most worrying thing for me is the amount of money we've spent on the defence but we are still unable at HOME to keep a clean sheet.

[Torres]

And if we win today?

 

 

[Red and White Army]

He had admitted it! Finally they have stopped with their lies and deceit. The truth is the victor!

 

If truth had won he would have struck you dead a long time ago.

 

Whichever way you cut it, the entire summer was a f**king waste.

 

How much of that was down to your bumchum Cortese I wonder?

 

Forget for a minute the poor forward play & unable to break down even the likes of Rochdale. The most worrying thing for me is the amount of money we've spent on the defence but we are still unable at HOME to keep a clean sheet.

 

We were plenty capable of winning games last season with largely the same squad... the difference over the last couple of games has been no Alan Pardew.

 

Boy do we need some new players. Puncheon is not good enough by a country mile, and we are completely toothless up front. We create nothing, defend like amateurs and freeze whenever we create an opening. We fall over the ball, run it out of play, knock the pass a yard too far, lack a first touch. Just fecking useless from 1 to 11. Rip it up and start again.

 

We were plenty capable of winning games last season with largely the same squad... the difference over the last couple of games has been no Alan Pardew.

[Professor]

For those who wanted the link, its here:-

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/8372214.Saints_looking_for_loan_deal_striker/

 

The relevant text is:- "Caretaker manager Dean Wilkins revealed the club had tried to bring in some new faces on Tuesday ahead of the transfer deadline. But, despite their efforts, Saints were unable to secure any signings. “We’ve tried, we have tried, but it hasn’t worked out,” said Wilkins.

 

The man who has stepped into Alan Pardew’s shoes has admitted the squad does need strengthening, and it is no secret the club has been looking to add players up front and out wide. "

[Smirking_Saint]

Reminds me a bit of when saggy was clearly keen to get out. Didnt target any signings, even though the gaps were obvious.

 

This is spot on.

 

Doddisalegend has his bellend so far up Pardews ring piece that even when alan is running away he is still along side him to give him support.

 

Fact is, if Pardew wasn't backed then he wouldn't have been saying he was trying to get signings in and nor would Wilkins. Face it Dodd's, you are too far up Pardews ars* to admit he wasn't good enough.

 

Oh i wish you knew the truth, but then i think you would still back him to the hilt.

 

You might as well change your username to captain darling.

[sadoldgit]

This is spot on.

 

Doddisalegend has his bellend so far up Pardews ring piece that even when alan is running away he is still along side him to give him support.

 

Fact is, if Pardew wasn't backed then he wouldn't have been saying he was trying to get signings in and nor would Wilkins. Face it Dodd's, you are too far up Pardews ars* to admit he wasn't good enough.

 

Oh i wish you knew the truth, but then i think you would still back him to the hilt.

 

You might as well change your username to captain darling.

 

So what exactly is the truth and how do you know it to be so?

[doddisalegend]

This is spot on.

 

Doddisalegend has his bellend so far up Pardews ring piece that even when alan is running away he is still along side him to give him support.

 

Fact is, if Pardew wasn't backed then he wouldn't have been saying he was trying to get signings in and nor would Wilkins. Face it Dodd's, you are too far up Pardews ars* to admit he wasn't good enough.

 

Oh i wish you knew the truth, but then i think you would still back him to the hilt.

 

You might as well change your username to captain darling.

 

 

 

Ooohhh tetchy. Wasn't good enough laughable. You can tell when some one feels their arguement is under threat when they resort to personal attacks.

 

The fact is according to the football league managers table for last season AP finished 9th best manager out of all four leagues so not the best manager in the country but a hell of a lot better than you'd like to make out becuase it helps you cope with the fact our club may have ****ed up again.

 

http://www.leaguemanagers.com/managers/mpl-league.html?seasonid=140&type=Season+Total&x=20&y=11

 

you can try to re-write history if you like smirking but it's there in black and white.

Edited 5 September, 2010 by doddisalegend

[redder freak]

Ooohhh tetchy. Wasn't good enough laughable. You can tell when some one feels their arguement is under threat when they resort to personal attacks.

 

The fact is according to the football league managers table for last season AP finished 9th best manager out of all four leagues so not the best manager in the country but a hell of a lot better than you'd like to make out becuase it helps you cope with the fact our club may have ****ed up again.

 

http://www.leaguemanagers.com/managers/mpl-league.html?seasonid=140&type=Season+Total&x=20&y=11

 

you can try to re-write history if you like smirking but it's there in black and white.

 

If we're getting a new manager who's better than Pardew then there are your 8 choices, in black and white.