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Rupert's Doctrine Beginning to Bear Meaningful Fruit

 

Coventry, much maligned, taken over by "Bad" SISU, who Lowe rejected out of hand, now Managed by a "no hope" Manager, Chris Coleman ....... are now 6th in the CCC, after anihilating a pathetic SAints Team 4 - 1

 

Leicester, relegated on last day of last season, managed by the "no hoper" Nigel Pearson, who, in spite of heavy odds against, did guide Saints to safety on the last day of season, rejected out of hand by Lowe, mainly because he had not appointed in in the first place ........... now sit TOP of Div 1

 

Saints, stripped of any and all recognised "seasoned" Pro's, and run by Two untried and unproven Dutch Coaches, having started out on the path of "Total Football", and now trying to add a few CCC type players ........ crash yet again to a very bad defeat ......... now sit proudly 3 points away from the Drop Zone

 

......... So, everything seems to be going to your wonderful "I know everything" plan then Rupert ........... ???

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Lets see how things go for a few more games.

 

But the comparison with Coventry & Leicester at the end of the season will be interesting.

 

I do agree that we need to try and be careful about these massive swings from salvation to oblivion after a win or a loss.

 

Its obvious people will be more upset and vociferous after a loss, but we need to be even handed in our responses.

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.... Sorry !!!!!!!!! ........... I missed out all the positives ...........

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

............... Sorry again ........ I couldn't find any

 

Win two lose one i could live with that till the end of the season!

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Rupert's Doctrine Beginning to Bear Meaningful Fruit

 

Coventry, much maligned, taken over by "Bad" SISU, who Lowe rejected out of hand, now Managed by a "no hope" Manager, Chris Coleman ....... are now 6th in the CCC, after anihilating a pathetic SAints Team 4 - 1

 

Leicester, relegated on last day of last season, managed by the "no hoper" Nigel Pearson, who, in spite of heavy odds against, did guide Saints to safety on the last day of season, rejected out of hand by Lowe, mainly because he had not appointed in in the first place ........... now sit TOP of Div 1

 

Saints, stripped of any and all recognised "seasoned" Pro's, and run by Two untried and unproven Dutch Coaches, having started out on the path of "Total Football", and now trying to add a few CCC type players ........ crash yet again to a very bad defeat ......... now sit proudly 3 points away from the Drop Zone

 

......... So, everything seems to be going to your wonderful "I know everything" plan then Rupert ........... ???

 

Do you think the clubs situation would have been different if Rupert appointed Pearson with the current situation we are in.

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Graham Taylor could manage the current Leicester team and sit where they are. If they dont win the league then that will be an upset. NP wasnt a good manager and the fact is he had a crap record here with the 'supposed better players'.

 

Complete and utter rubbish. As Leeds, Forest and before them Weds and Man C have found out League 1 is tough for big sides to get out of. Pearson has made a great start to his Leicester career and it will be interesting to see if he'll keep it up.

 

Had he not been Manager here before, people would be using him as an example of the type of young Manager we need to bring in.....

 

Pearson managed George Burley's team at SMS, he didn't have a preseason and he didn't have a transfer window. The only thing he had was the loan system and with Lucketti, Perry and Wright he used that to prefection, shoring up our weak spots. Perhaps Jan should take a leaf out of his book and get in a couple of defenders on loan, or does he think our defense is ok?

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Rupert's Doctrine Beginning to Bear Meaningful Fruit

 

Coventry, much maligned, taken over by "Bad" SISU, who Lowe rejected out of hand, now Managed by a "no hope" Manager, Chris Coleman ....... are now 6th in the CCC, after anihilating a pathetic SAints Team 4 - 1

 

And doing so well that until yesterday were 1 point ahead of us, that may swing around when we are home and have not had to play 3 out of the top five or six clubs in the league.

 

Leicester, relegated on last day of last season, managed by the "no hoper" Nigel Pearson, who, in spite of heavy odds against, did guide Saints to safety on the last day of season, rejected out of hand by Lowe, mainly because he had not appointed in in the first place ........... now sit TOP of Div 1

 

What heavy odds were they, we were not in relegation trouble when he got here, and to be honest with a minimal amount of cash you should be able to get out of League one.

 

Saints, stripped of any and all recognised "seasoned" Pro's, and run by Two untried and unproven Dutch Coaches, having started out on the path of "Total Football", and now trying to add a few CCC type players ........ crash yet again to a very bad defeat ......... now sit proudly 3 points away from the Drop Zone

 

So you only watch us on TV then, you failed to see the two wins prior to this?

 

......... So, everything seems to be going to your wonderful "I know everything" plan then Rupert ........... ???

 

I am not sure that Lowe has ever suggested he knows everything, but he could probably run rings around you in the football world and business world.

 

Take a reality check, they are young players, some of them are very good young players and until we give them a chance to mature and learn they will be inconsistent.

 

For me the most anonymous players on the pitch last night were Wotton and Perry.

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Complete and utter rubbish. As Leeds, Forest and before them Weds and Man C have found out League 1 is tough for big sides to get out of. Pearson has made a great start to his Leicester career and it will be interesting to see if he'll keep it up.

 

Had he not been Manager here before, people would be using him as an example of the type of young Manager we need to bring in.....

 

Pearson managed George Burley's team at SMS, he didn't have a preseason and he didn't have a transfer window. The only thing he had was the loan system and with Lucketti, Perry and Wright he used that to prefection, shoring up our weak spots. Perhaps Jan should take a leaf out of his book and get in a couple of defenders on loan, or does he think our defense is ok?

 

All of them were bankrupt and went into administration or damn well nearly did. Leicester are being bankrolled by Mandric.

 

Shoring up our weak spots are you sure...... have a look at his record!!!

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I am not sure that Lowe has ever suggested he knows everything, but he could probably run rings around you in the football world and business world.

 

Take a reality check, they are young players, some of them are very good young players and until we give them a chance to mature and learn they will be inconsistent.

 

For me the most anonymous players on the pitch last night were Wotton and Perry.

 

but that assumes that all the young players playing in other teams , like Best and Blackstock, and learning from a older pros (more than 2) will not get better as well.

The top Tryo sides at under 11 stay top until under 15.

 

The reality check is , i hate to have to say, that some of them are not going to get better, they have been drafted into the side because there is no one else not because they are good enough

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All of them were bankrupt and went into administration or damn well nearly did. Leicester are being bankrolled by Mandric.

 

Shoring up our weak spots are you sure...... have a look at his record!!!

 

I have looked at his record, it compares to to Jan's with a tough run in and George Burley's demotavated team. He's also lost less games than Jan has already.

 

The fact that Mandric, picked him says a lot about the potential he has. Would any other Chairman in the top 3 divisions pick JP above NP?

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and have not had to play 3 out of the top five or six clubs in the league.

 

And on the other side of the coin, the three wins we have managed have been against teams in the early season relegation battle!!!

 

We also failed to beat another at home who currently reside in the relegation places and we've also played a further three games teams who are in our "comparative" position.

 

The season is not all over by any means, btu 10 games starts to give you a feel and in that period you would normally have played a range of teams.

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Rupert's Doctrine Beginning to Bear Meaningful Fruit

 

Coventry, much maligned, taken over by "Bad" SISU, who Lowe rejected out of hand, now Managed by a "no hope" Manager, Chris Coleman ....... are now 6th in the CCC, after anihilating a pathetic SAints Team 4 - 1

 

Leicester, relegated on last day of last season, managed by the "no hoper" Nigel Pearson, who, in spite of heavy odds against, did guide Saints to safety on the last day of season, rejected out of hand by Lowe, mainly because he had not appointed in in the first place ........... now sit TOP of Div 1

 

Saints, stripped of any and all recognised "seasoned" Pro's, and run by Two untried and unproven Dutch Coaches, having started out on the path of "Total Football", and now trying to add a few CCC type players ........ crash yet again to a very bad defeat ......... now sit proudly 3 points away from the Drop Zone

 

......... So, everything seems to be going to your wonderful "I know everything" plan then Rupert ........... ???

 

Lowe Out!

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we are going to lose more than we win this season. But we only need approx 45-50 points to stay up.

 

whilst i hope there will be a takeover, in the absence of one, I cannot see many more options at the moment.

 

54 points

AND a better goal difference!

 

I just can't see that happening, thanks to lord Lowe.

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Jan Poortvliet and Mark Wotte are hardly untested in Holland, but I take SaintRichmond's point. However, this is the cheap option, and Saints have always gone for the cheap option. Time to get over it and support the Club. We can always say told you so, if it all goes pear shaped.

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Rupert's Doctrine Beginning to Bear Meaningful Fruit

 

Coventry, much maligned, taken over by "Bad" SISU, who Lowe rejected out of hand, now Managed by a "no hope" Manager, Chris Coleman ....... are now 6th in the CCC, after anihilating a pathetic SAints Team 4 - 1

 

Leicester, relegated on last day of last season, managed by the "no hoper" Nigel Pearson, who, in spite of heavy odds against, did guide Saints to safety on the last day of season, rejected out of hand by Lowe, mainly because he had not appointed in in the first place ........... now sit TOP of Div 1

 

Saints, stripped of any and all recognised "seasoned" Pro's, and run by Two untried and unproven Dutch Coaches, having started out on the path of "Total Football", and now trying to add a few CCC type players ........ crash yet again to a very bad defeat ......... now sit proudly 3 points away from the Drop Zone

 

......... So, everything seems to be going to your wonderful "I know everything" plan then Rupert ........... ???

 

 

Just for the record what is or was your expectation for the season? Failing takeover any one that managed SFC would have had to lose the high wage earners.

 

I disagree with some, i actually think N.P. was a good manager but he's not with us anymore and wouldnt fit within our wage structure. I'm no lover of R.L. but i've bought into his long term plan and on the whole i've been reasonably encourarged by what i've seen.

 

I'd take a team of young tryers any day over 90% of the games i saw last season at SMS. My expectation this season? Well a comfortable 4th from bottom will do me as these kids come of age everything else will be a bonus.

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Time to get over it and support the Club.

 

The problem is that whilst many will still support the Club come what may (and many of them post on here), there are very many who will not turn up having witnessed another 4-1 drubbing on the box.

 

Results, and dare I say peformances, aren't enticing people back and Lowe & Wilde don't engender that "We're all in this together" spirit, so I think our support will suffer.

 

We can always say told you so, if it all goes pear shaped.

 

But that will not be a crumb of comfort to anyone, because that will mean the Club we love will really be in the mire.

 

I don't think there will any time for crowing or shouting told you so, because we will be more concerned with our Club being thrown to the Wolves. I personally would rather be out doing a bucket collection to pay the bills, as opposed to getting off on saying how prophetic I was!!!!!!!!

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Do you think the clubs situation would have been different if Rupert appointed Pearson with the current situation we are in.

 

Who really knows where we would be now IF NP had not been moved on and IF the RFDH had been able to not meddle and IF a few of the players who left had stayed?

 

I just have a gut feeling that with NP here and AD in the defence there may have been better defensive displays.

 

Hey ho, it looks like Coventry and Leicester may enjoy a fairly 'local' derby next season, but then we could also, at places like Swindon,Yeovil and even Bournemouth as long as they can overcome their points deduction and get promoted.

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The problem is that whilst many will still support the Club come what may (and many of them post on here), there are very many who will not turn up having witnessed another 4-1 drubbing on the box.

 

Results, and dare I say peformances, aren't enticing people back and Lowe & Wilde don't engender that "We're all in this together" spirit, so I think our support will suffer.

 

 

 

But that will not be a crumb of comfort to anyone, because that will mean the Club we love will really be in the mire.

 

I don't think there will any time for crowing or shouting told you so, because we will be more concerned with our Club being thrown to the Wolves. I personally would rather be out doing a bucket collection to pay the bills, as opposed to getting off on saying how prophetic I was!!!!!!!!

 

I normally agree with most of your contributions which are sensible and well reasoned!

But let me ask you Steve at what point do we as supporters say enough is enough.

Lowe has always both ignored and, taken our support for granted.

has invariably gone for cheap options.

We have reached now a crossroads where Lowe and Wilde EXPECT us to bail them out having previously both failed in their past tenures.

To prop up a failed pair, to prop up a failed board is in my humble opinion going to help nobody.

With falling gates poor results and administration coming ever closer, it is perhaps time to allow the club to be put into administration

I know some small businesses will lose money, but I believe that a change in ownership is the ONLY way forward.

I will be sad to see anybody lose out, but, IF the Phoenix can rise from the ashes then let it do so.

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I normally agree with most of your contributions which are sensible and well reasoned!

But let me ask you Steve at what point do we as supporters say enough is enough.

 

Some have already said enough is enough, our attendances say more than I ever could on here!!!!!

 

Lowe has always both ignored and, taken our support for granted.

has invariably gone for cheap options.

We have reached now a crossroads where Lowe and Wilde EXPECT us to bail them out having previously both failed in their past tenures.

To prop up a failed pair, to prop up a failed board is in my humble opinion going to help nobody.

 

I can understand that sentiment, many felt the same way when Branfoot was here and felt the only way to bring about change was to boycott matches, but I'm not sure I agree with it in the current circumstances.

 

Just as many disappeared during the Branfoot era because the football was terrible and it might be more a case of that happening this time around.

 

With falling gates poor results and administration coming ever closer, it is perhaps time to allow the club to be put into administration

I know some small businesses will lose money, but I believe that a change in ownership is the ONLY way forward.

I will be sad to see anybody lose out, but, IF the Phoenix can rise from the ashes then let it do so.

 

Once again, I'm not convinced that a phoenix would definitely rise from the ashes, and my worry is that instead we would end up as dead as a Dodo!!!!!

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Some have already said enough is enough, our attendances say more than I ever could on here!!!!!

 

 

 

I can understand that sentiment, many felt the same way when Branfoot was here and felt the only way to bring about change was to boycott matches, but I'm not sure I agree with it in the current circumstances.

 

Just as many disappeared during the Branfoot era because the football was terrible and it might be more a case of that happening this time around.

 

 

 

Once again, I'm not convinced that a phoenix would definitely rise from the ashes, and my worry is that instead we would end up as dead as a Dodo!!!!!

 

 

I believe that I represent the views of the Mr Average doubter, I know that some of the directors I have named read this board...perhaps one or more would like to PM me and convince me why we should still support failed people.

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Basically the fans are between a rock and a hard place: Stay away to show their displeasure of Rupes and the 'total football' experiment and kill the club's finances, or attend the games and give tacit support to the Board. If 28,000 turned up for every game, solely because they were fully behind the lads on the pitch, it would not affect the performances on the pitch, but you can bet that RL would claim credit that his policies were the reason for the level of attendance.

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Basically the fans are between a rock and a hard place: Stay away to show their displeasure of Rupes and the 'total football' experiment and kill the club's finances, or attend the games and give tacit support to the Board. If 28,000 turned up for every game, solely because they were fully behind the lads on the pitch, it would not affect the performances on the pitch, but you can bet that RL would claim credit that his policies were the reason for the level of attendance.

 

This is the point I was making...at which point do you all pull the plug on Lowe / Wilde? They surely cannot expect people to turn up and pay to watch the rubbish currently being served up in the name of football.

I have no problem with youth, after all Arsenals team was less experienced and younger than ours and they hammered Sheff Utd 6-0

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This is the point I was making...at which point do you all pull the plug on Lowe / Wilde?

 

But in pulling the plug on the two of them, isn't there a danger that we pull the plug on the Club????

 

And therein lies the dilemna.

 

I either hope that it does all come off and we're left eating humble pie, or someone else steps up to the plate with some cash, or alternatively these two go and someone who can reunite the Club and get us all pulling in the same direction comes in and takes us forward.

 

One thing is for sure, and that is in the absence of success on the pitch, these two have not got the ability to get us all pulling together.

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Complete and utter rubbish. As Leeds, Forest and before them Weds and Man C have found out League 1 is tough for big sides to get out of. Pearson has made a great start to his Leicester career and it will be interesting to see if he'll keep it up.

 

Had he not been Manager here before, people would be using him as an example of the type of young Manager we need to bring in.....

 

Pearson managed George Burley's team at SMS, he didn't have a preseason and he didn't have a transfer window. The only thing he had was the loan system and with Lucketti, Perry and Wright he used that to prefection, shoring up our weak spots. Perhaps Jan should take a leaf out of his book and get in a couple of defenders on loan, or does he think our defense is ok?

 

 

And all of those sides spent weeks and weeks in the top three or four of that division.

 

Man City got promoted back into the second tier at first time of asking.

 

Too many people are acting like Leicester have already been promoted. It's bloody October.

 

Have a look back - Forest and Wednesday were in the top three or four in that division week in, week out for every season they were down there.

 

People making out Pearson has achieved some footballing miracle by taking the richest club by a country mile in its division to the top of the league. Give him a peanut.

 

Pearson won a grand total of three games at SMS. He was fine for us, I wanted him to stay because he deserved the chance. But for ****'s sake he is not the god some people are making him out to be.

 

 

 

And as for the usual drivel from Saint Richmond.....Go on, give us another ranting lecture about "football shouldn't be about evil business" and then in the same breath salivate over how fantastic SISU are. Yes, that SISU. The venture capitalists.

 

Full of ****. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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Would any other Chairman in the top 3 divisions pick JP above NP?

 

Of course they wouldn't, and it's only because Lowe employed him and Crouch employed Pearson, that there's any support for that appointment on here.

 

Had Leon Crouch sacked Pearson and replaced him with JP, there would have been uproar from the Anti Crouch bunch..........

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One thing is for sure, and that is in the absence of success on the pitch, these two have not got the ability to get us all pulling together.

 

And that is the crux of the matter; we dont have the players to deliver the sort of step function in "success" to get the crowds back in through the turnstile, and because of historical baggage these two will never win over the goodwill of the fan base.

 

Simply put, whilst these two are at the helm, the club is f**ked.

 

Why didnt Lowe push Cowen to the forefront and stay in the shadows, unobtrusively, with Wilde ? Maybe his "plans" would have gained wider acceptance then. But no, it's just a big f**king ego trip for them, isnt it ?

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Just for the record what is or was your expectation for the season? Failing takeover any one that managed SFC would have had to lose the high wage earners.

 

I disagree with some, i actually think N.P. was a good manager but he's not with us anymore and wouldnt fit within our wage structure. I'm no lover of R.L. but i've bought into his long term plan and on the whole i've been reasonably encourarged by what i've seen.

 

I'd take a team of young tryers any day over 90% of the games i saw last season at SMS. My expectation this season? Well a comfortable 4th from bottom will do me as these kids come of age everything else will be a bonus.

 

nail on head

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I think most Saints fans will take being three points above the relegation zone come the end of the season. So looks like a job well done so far for Rupert. There's only one Rupert Lowe, walking in a Lowe wonderland. HE IS OUR SAVIOUR. Worship at the feet of Lowe....all real Saints fans will!

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I'm no lover of R.L. but i've bought into his long term plan and on the whole i've been reasonably encourarged by what i've seen.

Rupert's plan is in two parts; first to appease the bank, second to protect what is left of his 'investment'.

 

I'd take a team of young tryers any day over 90% of the games i saw last season at SMS. My expectation this season? Well a comfortable 4th from bottom will do me as these kids come of age everything else will be a bonus.

And any of the 'kids' that have any value will be sold as the next tranche to try to keep the whole rotten edifice afloat. There is no investment plan other than this. Which of this years ressies will be promoted to replace Lallana, Surman, DMG, or any others we might get a fee for ?

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Rupert's plan is in two parts; first to appease the bank, second to protect what is left of his 'investment'.

 

 

And any of the 'kids' that have any value will be sold as the next tranche to try to keep the whole rotten edifice afloat. There is no investment plan other than this. Which of this years ressies will be promoted to replace Lallana, Surman, DMG, or any others we might get a fee for ?

 

Good for you then, you are easilly satisfied, just the sort of supporter Rupert loves!

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I think most Saints fans will take being three points above the relegation zone come the end of the season. So looks like a job well done so far for Rupert. There's only one Rupert Lowe, walking in a Lowe wonderland. HE IS OUR SAVIOUR. Worship at the feet of Lowe....all real Saints fans will!

 

Why have you changed your user name Scooby?

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And all of those sides spent weeks and weeks in the top three or four of that division.

 

Man City got promoted back into the second tier at first time of asking.

 

Too many people are acting like Leicester have already been promoted. It's bloody October.

 

Have a look back - Forest and Wednesday were in the top three or four in that division week in, week out for every season they were down there.

 

People making out Pearson has achieved some footballing miracle by taking the richest club by a country mile in its division to the top of the league. Give him a peanut.

 

Pearson won a grand total of three games at SMS. He was fine for us, I wanted him to stay because he deserved the chance. But for ****'s sake he is not the god some people are making him out to be.

 

 

 

And as for the usual drivel from Saint Richmond.....Go on, give us another ranting lecture about "football shouldn't be about evil business" and then in the same breath salivate over how fantastic SISU are. Yes, that SISU. The venture capitalists.

 

Full of ****. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

good post cb telling how it is.
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yep hes been waiting till we lost to post that message.4 games unbeaten before that but don,t let that get in the way.

 

And arsehole lucky in all of them,heavily reliant on Davis.

 

When we get found out, lose our luck and Davis cannot manage any miracle

saves we get stuffed.

 

We are not improving we are stumbling along with bind hope and

over optimism.

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Rupert's Doctrine Beginning to Bear Meaningful Fruit

 

Coventry, much maligned, taken over by "Bad" SISU, who Lowe rejected out of hand, now Managed by a "no hope" Manager, Chris Coleman ....... are now 6th in the CCC, after anihilating a pathetic SAints Team 4 - 1

 

Leicester, relegated on last day of last season, managed by the "no hoper" Nigel Pearson, who, in spite of heavy odds against, did guide Saints to safety on the last day of season, rejected out of hand by Lowe, mainly because he had not appointed in in the first place ........... now sit TOP of Div 1

 

Saints, stripped of any and all recognised "seasoned" Pro's, and run by Two untried and unproven Dutch Coaches, having started out on the path of "Total Football", and now trying to add a few CCC type players ........ crash yet again to a very bad defeat ......... now sit proudly 3 points away from the Drop Zone

 

......... So, everything seems to be going to your wonderful "I know everything" plan then Rupert ........... ???

 

And 4 points from 5th place.......devil's advocate and all that.

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