Strikers

[PinkScarf]

Read the Echo today and it confirmed what every Saints Fan has been calling for and that is another Striker to join Saints. Offload Connolly in the New Year.

 

Without Barney - Saints seem unable to score goals.

 

Lambert / Barney P10 W6 D4 L0 Goals 10

 

Lambert / Guly P4 W2 D0 L0 Goals 1

 

Lambert P1 W0 D0 L1 Goals 0

 

Lambert / DC P3 W0 D0 L3 Goal 0

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[Deano6]

Read the Echo today and it confirmed what every Saints Fan has been calling for and that is another Striker to join Saints. Offload Connolly in the New Year.

 

Without Barney - Saints seem unable to score goals.

 

Lambert / Barney P10 W6 D4 L0 Goals 10

 

Lambert / Guly P4 W2 D0 L0 Goals 1

Lambert P1 W0 D0 L1 Goals 0

 

Lambert / DC P3 W0 D0 L3 Goal 0

 

That's a pretty good record to be fair - 4 matches and no draws or losses in any!

[Lighthouse]

That's a pretty good record to be fair - 4 matches and no draws or losses in any!

 

and only 2 wins...

[PinkScarf]

Rechecked the info - Lambert / Guly Played 4 Won 2 Drawn 0 Lost 2 Goals 1

 

Seems to be the next best option if Barney is crocked.

[buctootim]

Whats most amazing about the Lambert Guly partnership is that we won two games despite only scoring 1 goal.

[PinkScarf]

The statistics compliled by the Daily Echo show Lambert and Barnard have been by far the most successful strike pairing for Saints this season. Out of all the other combinations only one has managed to produce a solitary goal. That was for the Lambert and Guly pairing but that is from four games together - two of which were victories and two of which were losses.

 

Adkins might partner Lambert with Connolly against Walsall - though in their three league starts Saints have suffered three defeats.

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[beancounter saint]

Whats most amazing about the Lambert Guly partnership is that we won two games despite only scoring 1 goal.

 

I thought that - is it perhaps the no of goals scored by the "strikers"?

[PinkScarf]

That's how I read the stats - otherwise does not make any sense - Reference Page 60 Daily Echo - Sports Spotlight

[Smirking_Saint]

Yup we need a striker

 

I am pretty amazed by those statistics though, if that is genuinely in the echo it is the worst paper report since i read in the Daily Mail back in 2003 that we had lost a game 2-0 when in fact we had won 1-0.

 

Even had a complete write up.

[Lighthouse]

We need 2 strikers. Guly and DC can both leave IMO. Both useless for different reasons.

[Smirking_Saint]

We need 2 strikers. Guly and DC can both leave IMO. Both useless for different reasons.

 

TBF Guly puts a shift in. For the first half he was the only one doing any sort of closing down. He then seemed to realise no one else was helping out.

 

That said, i think he has struggled to adapt and so yeah, he probably isn't good enough. But then who have we got ?? A player held together with ducktape, a bloke just off the operating table, an untried youngster or an overweight and out of confidence.

[Turkish]

Read the Echo today and it confirmed what every Saints Fan has been calling for and that is another Striker to join Saints. Offload Connolly in the New Year.

 

Without Barney - Saints seem unable to score goals.

 

Lambert / Barney P10 W6 D4 L0 Goals 10

 

Lambert / Guly P4 W2 D0 L0 Goals 1

 

Lambert P1 W0 D0 L1 Goals 0

 

Lambert / DC P3 W0 D0 L3 Goal 0

 

What we need to do is get a few well dressed blokes together, who look connected, get 'em into a pub and maybe they can have a chat and come up with an answer.

[Lighthouse]

TBF Guly puts a shift in. For the first half he was the only one doing any sort of closing down. He then seemed to realise no one else was helping out.

 

That said, i think he has struggled to adapt and so yeah, he probably isn't good enough. But then who have we got ?? A player held together with ducktape, a bloke just off the operating table, an untried youngster or an overweight and out of confidence.

 

Hence...

 

We need 2 strikers. Guly and DC can both leave IMO. Both useless for different reasons.

 

In a dream world for me it would be 2 from Le Fondre, Fryatt, Beattie or Waigo. I know, "they're the past... move on... etc. etc." I'm just saying.

[Smirking_Saint]

Hence...

 

 

 

In a dream world for me it would be 2 from Le Fondre, Fryatt, Beattie or Waigo. I know, "they're the past... move on... etc. etc." I'm just saying.

 

Beattie ?? Really ?

 

I don't like him, never had, always thought he was over rated but even i can't argue against the fact he should score in league 1 (as long as we play his way, loads of crosses etc)

 

And yeah, Le Fondre, Austin, Fryatt would be awesome.

 

I think that Connelly is well past it aswell TBF, and considering that we seem a little light on the ground atm we should see if we can keep Guly, if nothing more than to be on the bench.

[buctootim]

Beattie ?? Really ?

 

I don't like him, never had, always thought he was over rated but even i can't argue against the fact he should score in league 1 (as long as we play his way, loads of crosses etc)

 

And yeah, Le Fondre, Austin, Fryatt would be awesome.

 

I think that Connelly is well past it aswell TBF, and considering that we seem a little light on the ground atm we should see if we can keep Guly, if nothing more than to be on the bench.

 

Guly may not look the part, but at least he scores from open play -more than Lambert this season despite only being on the pitch for a fraction of the time .

[Jonnyboy]

Hence...

 

 

 

In a dream world for me it would be 2 from Le Fondre, Fryatt, Beattie or Waigo. I know, "they're the past... move on... etc. etc." I'm just saying.

 

I like Waigo (and Antonio) but your "dream world" isnt very inspiring

[Window Cleaner]

I have been looking at the appearance stats and it would seem that Barnard was a bit of a part timer at Southend as well. True he got in about 40 games last season (for them and for us) but in the 2 prior seasons he's started about half of Southend's games.

Hadn't noticed that before.In fact he's only scored about 50 goals in his entire career,been playing for about 8 years now.

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[Lighthouse]

Beattie ?? Really ?

 

I don't like him, never had, always thought he was over rated but even i can't argue against the fact he should score in league 1 (as long as we play his way, loads of crosses etc)

 

And yeah, Le Fondre, Austin, Fryatt would be awesome.

 

I think that Connelly is well past it aswell TBF, and considering that we seem a little light on the ground atm we should see if we can keep Guly, if nothing more than to be on the bench.

 

Beattie I'm sure would be an asset in League 1. Especially as he is very much in the Lambert frame and gives us another physical option so we can drop Rickie.

 

I see no point in keeping Guly if he isn't good enough. If you think he is good, that's you're opinion, but if you don't there's no point keeping him, even to sit on the bench.

 

Guly may not look the part, but at least he scores from open play -more than Lambert this season despite only being on the pitch for a fraction of the time .

 

Guly has 3 goals to his name this season. A decent striker would have about 10.

 

I like Waigo (and Antonio) but your "dream world" isnt very inspiring

 

Maybe not a dream, but him and one of the others would definitely stand us in good stead up front.

[70's Mike]

imo it will not matter who plays up front unless the supply improves from midfield, and full backs.

not only have we lost Waigo/Antonio and there unpredictable play but whilst Dickson maybe a better defender than Harding he is not, again imo , as good going forward.

[Window Cleaner]

imo it will not matter who plays up front unless the supply improves from midfield, and full backs.

not only have we lost Waigo/Antonio and there unpredictable play but whilst Dickson maybe a better defender than Harding he is not, again imo , as good going forward.

 

True our marauding full backs were a big asset last season, always available for a pass forward.

[Toadhall Saint]

imo it will not matter who plays up front unless the supply improves from midfield, and full backs.

not only have we lost Waigo/Antonio and there unpredictable play but whilst Dickson maybe a better defender than Harding he is not, again imo , as good going forward.

 

I pray for the day we have a true ball playing mid fielder - you know, one that can thread a 15 yard pass through a defence and do it consistently. I genuinely thought that Schneiderlin was going to be that man but he seems to sit too deep and has one pass and one pass only - a 45 yard diagonal one. Real pity.

[doddisalegend]

Beattie I'm sure would be an asset in League 1. Especially as he is very much in the Lambert frame and gives us another physical option so we can drop Rickie.

 

I see no point in keeping Guly if he isn't good enough. If you think he is good, that's you're opinion, but if you don't there's no point keeping him, even to sit on the bench.

 

 

 

Guly has 3 goals to his name this season. A decent striker would have about 10.

 

 

 

Maybe not a dream, but him and one of the others would definitely stand us in good stead up front.

 

In fairness isn't Guly supposed to be an attacking midfielder?

[Dalek2003]

To be fair Connolly is potentially one of our best strikers. The trouble is that he spends to much time in the treament room.

[Turkish]

To be fair Connolly is potentially one of our best strikers. The trouble is that he spends to much time in the treament room.

 

When fit he is our best striker, his movement and control is a class above anything else we or this league has, the problem is he has only shown it in about 5 games and those were last season.

[Dalek2003]

When fit he is our best striker, his movement and control is a class above anything else we or this league has, the problem is he has only shown it in about 5 games and those were last season.

 

Agree with that, the trouble is he spends a lot of time in the treatment room.

[Smirking_Saint]

When fit he is our best striker, his movement and control is a class above anything else we or this league has, the problem is he has only shown it in about 5 games and those were last season.

 

His movement was sh*te against Plymouth.

[Turkish]

His movement was sh*te against Plymouth.

 

like i said, sadly he only showed it last season. I think he is f*****.

[Smirking_Saint]

like i said, sadly he only showed it last season. I think he is f*****.

 

Said it at the end of last season.

 

Alas, we didn't replace him.

 

Also mentioned we could do with a stand in for Rickie, but nope.

 

Now we are knackered until January and i reckon we will have a sh*t December

[Turkish]

Said it at the end of last season.

 

Alas, we didn't replace him.

 

Also mentioned we could do with a stand in for Rickie, but nope.

 

Now we are knackered until January and i reckon we will have a sh*t December

 

We certainly needed another striker. Two as Connolly clearly isn't as fit as we'd hoped. I agree, cant see us getting much out of the next three games, Wallsall will probably be postponed which is just as well as we have zero fit strikers and i cant see us getting anymore than two points from hudderfield and Charlton the way we have been playing recently.

[Smirking_Saint]

We certainly needed another striker. Two as Connolly clearly isn't as fit as we'd hoped. I agree, cant see us getting much out of the next three games, Wallsall will probably be postponed which is just as well as we have zero fit strikers and i cant see us getting anymore than two points from hudderfield and Charlton the way we have been playing recently.

 

We can only hope it snows from now til january

[Colinjb]

To be fair Connolly is potentially one of our best strikers. The trouble is that he spends to much time in the treament room.

 

He could have been one of our best strikers a few years ago. His injury ravaged frame needs to retire.

[saint-ross]

Connolly is technically a great striker, onnhis day our best striker, im sure he would benfit the whole team if playing more regular, but unfortunately the problem is he's spending too much time in the treatment room.

[up and away]

The one over riding factor in all of this, is that Ricky has only scored one goal from open play. The other problems we have is that we don't have two forwards remaining that we can play 442 well enough, and we leak goals. That's why I would set up the team to counter attack and overload the midfield to ensure control. Having a midfield / attack of

 

Lallana Hammond Fonte Chaplow Oxo

--------------Guly---------------

 

For this to work, we would have to draw the opposition onto us, but these players have all the requisites to play the counter attack far better than everything we have been doing up until now or anything the opposition has had to deal with. Even the option of putting Fonte upfront as a target if required in the later stages. We need someone in the middle to give control, something we have regularly had problems with. Hammond and Chaplow have performed best in midfield, but even they have issues with a half decent side with that extra man in midfield. Fonte I believe could do that and add the extra strength to the defence. He brings the ball out well and is a real threat in the penalty area.

 

We are in a real hole right now with injuries and forwards not able to contribute fully. This I feel could reduce the damage until a point where we have the facilities to go out and dominate teams. With that amount of skill and pace on the wings , I can't see this not working away from home where we draw teams onto us. But we would have to set up defensively, leave too big a gap between the defence and midfield and it would all end in tears.

 

I would go this way for every away game, varying it at home depending upon the opposition and what we have available, until our resources are such we have viable alternatives. We have in Oxo and Lallana, two players of pace and skill that most other teams cannot boast one of similar ilk. We must utilise their strengths, whilst limiting their weaknesses and that of the team.

[Thedelldays]

fonte is never going to play the anchor man...

[Stu Man Do]

fonte is never going to play the anchor man...

 

Stay classy San diego ;-)

[Cabrone]

In a dream world for me it would be 2 from Le Fondre, Fryatt, Beattie or Waigo. I know, "they're the past... move on... etc. etc." I'm just saying.

 

I was a big BT fan, I thought he was excellent for us.

 

I also think that at 32 he's still got a few miles left in the tank and would pulp this league but I cannot see him coming here.

 

He's far, far too good for league 1 but I'd be delighted if we somehow managed to snare him.

[Turkish]

I was a big BT fan, I thought he was excellent for us.

 

I also think that at 32 he's still got a few miles left in the tank and would pulp this league but I cannot see him coming here.

He's far, far too good for league 1 but I'd be delighted if we somehow managed to snare him.

 

So it most of our squad if you believe some of the morons on here.

[saint1977]

Hence...

 

 

 

In a dream world for me it would be 2 from Le Fondre, Fryatt, Beattie or Waigo. I know, "they're the past... move on... etc. etc." I'm just saying.

 

I can't see Beattie as a realistic option and maybe not Waigo if he's getting a game in Florence but Le Fondre and Fryatt ought to BOTH be credible and gettable targets, Fryatt perhaps as a loan and Le Fondre on a perm. I also agree with 70s Mike, the supply to the strikers isn't up to it bar Lallana (and cameos from AOC), not surprising with a CM pairing of Hammond and Morgan S V Brentford. Hopefully Chaplow is going to be fit soon and Hammond has at least improved slightly of late, Morgan needs to be sold PDQ. Harley from Exeter and Weston from Brentford would add the missing energy, pace and guile so Lallana doesn't feel like he's in a totally one-dimensional squad.