ladysaint Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 (edited) well for the 600 or so saints fan who made the effort tonight, shame the team didnt put in half the effort we did. not one shot on target and imo lucky we got a point from this game. since winning 6 0 away against oldham we havent played well in the league and on this performance we will be lucky to reach the play offs. credit to the saints fan from truro who made the trip u deserved to see a better performance than that. Edited 23 February, 2011 by ladysaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 Sky sports says there was 7 shots on target and NA said Lallana could have had a hat trick but for some good saves. But you were there and I wasnt so I will take your word. All in all, a point is not too bad and results apart from Brighton went our way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 (edited) Yeah, there were 7 shots on target. You're usually very accurate and balanced in your posts Ladysaint, what on earth made you say something like that? A few too many before the game perhaps? Edited 23 February, 2011 by Saint_clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 23 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 23 February, 2011 we read the stats and think they must have gone to a different game. would be interested to hear what others who were there thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 Well just off the top of my head I can remember a last ditch block from one of their defenders which the commentators said were going in, and two saves from Lallana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.comsaint Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 All in all, a point is not too bad and results apart from Brighton went our way I can't see how results went our way????? We drew. So did Bournemouth, Huddersfield & Peterborough. If we're going to catch them/overtake them, we have to better their results . . . which we didn't. A draw at Hartlepool is - by any measure - not good enough for a side that is (supposedly) serious about going up this season. And don't even get me started about catching Brighton . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 I can't see how results went our way????? We drew. So did Bournemouth, Huddersfield & Peterborough. If we're going to catch them/overtake them, we have to better their results . . . which we didn't. A draw at Hartlepool is - by any measure - not good enough for a side that is (supposedly) serious about going up this season. And don't even get me started about catching Brighton . . . It rather depends how you look at that. Hartlepool have beaten Brighton, Peterborough at home and Bournemouth and Huddersfield away. Therefore we gained one point that they didn't. As for Brighton, yes, they look as if they're beginning to run away with it. Don't I recall Leeds doing exactly the same thing at this stage of the Season, even beating ManUre in the Cup. Before slumping and just about limping into the play-offs a couple of seasons ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithd Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 A draw at Hartlepool is - by any measure - not good enough for a side that is (supposedly) serious about going up this season. . . . serious about going up? probably the dullest thing i've seen anybody write on here, and thats saying something. No we're not serious about going up, nah we want to stay in this league. in fact we should be more serious about relegation next season as i think this season is out of the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 A draw at Hartlepool on a Tuesday isn't a bad result if you look at it on it's own but we can't afford to keep drawing away after basically losing a month of the season between Pardew and Adkins, we've got to make sure we don't become stagnant in the play offs. We really need to get back into our stride very quickly. The two games against Charlton are getting bigger and bigger, I really hope we can take our full allocation to the Valley, it could be our most important game for 18 months... six points from the Charlton games and I think we will have the belief and confidence to go on to finish second or win the play offs, otherwise we could well end up in a play off final against Charlton coming off the back of two games against them... another season rebuilding in this league with another manager isn't worth thinking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 I can't see how results went our way????? We drew. So did Bournemouth, Huddersfield & Peterborough. If we're going to catch them/overtake them, we have to better their results . . . which we didn't. A draw at Hartlepool is - by any measure - not good enough for a side that is (supposedly) serious about going up this season. And don't even get me started about catching Brighton . . . No we don't - we have more games than them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 serious about going up? probably the dullest thing i've seen anybody write on here, and thats saying something. No we're not serious about going up, nah we want to stay in this league. in fact we should be more serious about relegation next season as i think this season is out of the question. Indeed. And, by his measure, Brighton aren't serious about going up either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 A draw at Hartlepool on a Tuesday isn't a bad result if you look at it on it's own but we can't afford to keep drawing away after basically losing a month of the season between Pardew and Adkins, we've got to make sure we don't become stagnant in the play offs. . If you'd seen how bad Hartlepool were you wouldn't be saying that. THey were there for the taking and once again we failed to even trouble their keeper. 7 shots on target the stats may say, I reckon it was more like 7 back passes. That team as it is isn't good enough to go up, and the thing that is starting to worry me is the manager doesn't seem to know, or want, to do anything about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 23 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 23 February, 2011 (edited) If you'd seen how bad Hartlepool were you wouldn't be saying that. THey were there for the taking and once again we failed to even trouble their keeper. 7 shots on target the stats may say, I reckon it was more like 7 back passes. That team as it is isn't good enough to go up, and the thing that is starting to worry me is the manager doesn't seem to know, or want, to do anything about it.. This is exactly how I see it, dont know where they got 7 shots on target from. Some of you saying a draw at Hartlepool is a good result, its not the result its the way we are playing we have no killer instinct and the goals are drying up and we were very lucky last night to not have one or two penalties given against us. We have a bogey team on Saturday and if we played like last night they are once again going to get something out of the game. Edited 23 February, 2011 by ladysaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 If you'd seen how bad Hartlepool were you wouldn't be saying that. THey were there for the taking and once again we failed to even trouble their keeper. 7 shots on target the stats may say, I reckon it was more like 7 back passes. That team as it is isn't good enough to go up, and the thing that is starting to worry me is the manager doesn't seem to know, or want, to do anything about it. I didn't go so i'll trust your judgement there... can't bring myself to do 350 miles on a Tuesday after missing out on a handfull of games already because of postponements this season. Fair play to the 600 who went, very impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 If you'd seen how bad Hartlepool were you wouldn't be saying that. THey were there for the taking and once again we failed to even trouble their keeper. 7 shots on target the stats may say, I reckon it was more like 7 back passes. That team as it is isn't good enough to go up, and the thing that is starting to worry me is the manager doesn't seem to know, or want, to do anything about it. Statistics (45 points from 23 games) say that the team and Adkins are good enough to go up.It's our recent away record that is troubling.As long as home form keeps up and we get the odd away win and the draws keep coming then I can't see us not finishing second.If we have difficulty with Bournemouth,Brighton and Charlton away and another side shocks us at home then all may change but I'm still reasonably confident.Adkins needs to rest Ox a bit though and get the midfield right. Morgan and Chaplow,doubt if he'll do that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 . its not the result its the way we are playing Exactly!! why are some on here overlooking this. Its alright saying that its great that we can grind out results whilst we are playing badly, but we have been playing badly for a while now and we are going to be found out sooner than later if our form does not greatly improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 . This is exactly how I see it, dont know where they got 7 shots on target from. Some of you saying a draw at Hartlepool is a good result, its not the result its the way we are playing we have no killer instinct and the goals are drying up and we were very lucky last night to not have one or two penalties given against us. We have a bogey team on Saturday and if we played like last night they are once again going to get something out of the game. Hallelujah! Someone sees it as I do. Well done ladysaint you talk a lot of sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrey1saint Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 Sounds like a poor performance,but we all know Saints,they don't perform away from home on a sh*ty ptich,right?I am an optimist ,so I am hoping that at home we can put in a decent performance,if we don't perform ,then Swindon will get something for sure. Come on Saints,FFS start playing for promotion!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 Very dull game. Reminds me of Wycombe away which was exactly this time last year funnily enough. Only highlight was 'Alan Carr'. Not the worst result in the world though with other sides drawing though. I see the wrist slitters are out in force on here this morning though, I guess we might as well give up on promotion now. lucky we got a point from this game. we will be lucky to reach the play offsDon't be such a drama queen. We didn't deserve to lose, they were even worse than us. I guarantee all the other teams up their have put in plenty of terrible performances this season as well, that's just the nature of this division. We were never going win 6-0 every week. We have no divine right to win these sort of games and they are a lot harder than people think. Leeds probably had a much better squad last season than we do now, and they only just stumbled over the line, dropping plenty of points to lower sides. We are still in a cracking position. Win our games in hand and we are in the automatic promotion places. We have a pretty decent run in too. Keep the faith people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 If you look at the fixtures this Saturday and next Tuesday, things could look pretty good this time next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 If you look at the fixtures this Saturday and next Tuesday, things could look pretty good this time next week. Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 Hallelujah! Someone sees it as I do. Well done ladysaint you talk a lot of sense. You do make me chuckle with your "only the people that agree with me talk sense" outlook on this place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polegategavin Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 1 deafeat from our previous 10 league games is not poor by any stretch. What were the conditions like? Our better performances have been on good pitches. We continue to be hard to beat, I accept there was one very good shout for a penalty for Hartlepool. Lallana started his first game since the 6-0 at Oldham, and he should be much more on the pace from Saturday, but if we go away from home for the remainder of the season, and draw at worst then unless our home form disintegrates we will be promoted. We definitely do better when we have 2 games per week, not sure why though! The initial reaction to a poor result is to be really down, but lets just accept that we got another point towards our goal, and look forward to the next match. There is no reason to suggest we won't have a great game on saturday and win comfortably, and everyone will then suggest we are the best team in this division. Just enjoy the ride!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 Our last 4 games have been 2 wins against Exeter (a) and Carlisle (h) and 2 away draws at diffcult to go places. We can still do this simply because there is no consistency from anyone except Brighton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 We definitely do better when we have 2 games per week, not sure why though! Thats good then coz we have plenty of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambertsrightleg Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 win on saturday and it's a good draw. lose on saturday and it's a bad draw. I don't agree with the lack of killer instinct. The team has goals in it, everyteam in this league would give their limbs for Lallana, Ox and Lambert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born In The 80s Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 If you'd seen how bad Hartlepool were you wouldn't be saying that. THey were there for the taking and once again we failed to even trouble their keeper. 7 shots on target the stats may say, I reckon it was more like 7 back passes. That team as it is isn't good enough to go up, and the thing that is starting to worry me is the manager doesn't seem to know, or want, to do anything about it. Well said my man. I actually feel embarrassed that i put in as much effort/money into being there last night as i did. The game we were treated to was pathetic. First half was the worst half of football i have ever seen. As for the people who think a draw against Hartlepool is a good result, well, they can't have ever seen Hartlepool play. Awful side, and we can count our lucky stars that the ref gave us the benefit of the doubt with the penalty. Also agree with the opening post from ladysaint. As for the 7 shots on target thing - well, i laughed when i read that. Utter ********. Now this is in no way meant as an "i'm a better fan than you" post, but i think those fans who have witnessed recent performances (especially away) feel much less confident of promotion than the fans who haven't seen the side play recently and perhaps just look at results and stats. You can make up a stat to suit any argument. Last season we were not only winning most of our matches at this stage in the season, but we were hammering teams both home and away. Those of you who still think of us as automatic promotion favourites are setting yourselves up for a big fall IMO. Our only saving grace is this is probably the worst league 1 they've had in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.comsaint Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 serious about going up? probably the dullest thing i've seen anybody write on here, and thats saying something. No we're not serious about going up, nah we want to stay in this league. in fact we should be more serious about relegation next season as i think this season is out of the question. lol. I forgot it was half term this week. Thanks anyway keithd for . . .err . . . your insight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 You do make me chuckle with your "only the people that agree with me talk sense" outlook on this place. At last! Somebody else sees that hypochondriac is mental too! You are the only person with any grasp of reality around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 Well said my man. I actually feel embarrassed that i put in as much effort/money into being there last night as i did. The game we were treated to was pathetic. First half was the worst half of football i have ever seen. As for the people who think a draw against Hartlepool is a good result, well, they can't have ever seen Hartlepool play. Awful side, and we can count our lucky stars that the ref gave us the benefit of the doubt with the penalty. Also agree with the opening post from ladysaint. As for the 7 shots on target thing - well, i laughed when i read that. Utter ********. Now this is in no way meant as an "i'm a better fan than you" post, but i think those fans who have witnessed recent performances (especially away) feel much less confident of promotion than the fans who haven't seen the side play recently and perhaps just look at results and stats. You can make up a stat to suit any argument. Last season we were not only winning most of our matches at this stage in the season, but we were hammering teams both home and away. Those of you who still think of us as automatic promotion favourites are setting yourselves up for a big fall IMO. Our only saving grace is this is probably the worst league 1 they've had in years. I go to every game and I'm confident we'll still get automatic promotion. It's not true we were hammering everyone home and away this time last season at all. One year ago today we put in an abysmal performance at Wycombe. Before that we were lucky to scrape draws at Exeter and Brentford and were very unconvincing against a rubbish Stockport side. So in the last few weeks we've been about as bad as we were this time last season. We didn't hit our peak until shortly after that Wycombe game, starting with Walsall at home. Who's to say we won't do the same this year, starting with Swindon on Satuday? Lallana being back will make a big difference. Our run in looks good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 You do make me chuckle with your "only the people that agree with me talk sense" outlook on this place. I didn't say that. I don't understand the likes of nickG who just quote stats as if the prove anything. The manner of performances is key because it gives an indicator for future performances, regardless of results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintchrissy Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 I have only just returned from the game having stayed up overnight. I agree with lady saint when I heard the stat for shots on target I wondered if I was at the same game - the" shots " that I saw were very very weak - my granny could have hit them harder - yes on target but hardly shots . The pitch was not as rough as at Dag and Redbridge so could have played better football, felt the ball was in the air a lot of the time, felt that we got away with two penalty shouts from hartlepool. I must admit though I did feel cheered by the first ten to fifteen minutes of the second half - better effort, however that soon ebbed away to long balls, inaccurately weighted passes - although again I took some heart with some intercepted passes. Nice to see that Alan Carr made an appearance perhaps he was doing one of those reality job swap shows! I suppose just have to forget this one and move on to Saturday. COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 Hallelujah! Someone sees it as I do. Well done ladysaint you talk a lot of sense. You do make me chuckle with your "only the people that agree with me talk sense" outlook on this place. I didn't say that. Erm, yeah you did, practically verbatim. "Someone who sees it as I do" = "people that agree with me..." Well done ladysaint you talk a lot of sense = "...talk sense" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 I didn't say that. I don't understand the likes of nickG who just quote stats as if the prove anything. The manner of performances is key because it gives an indicator for future performances, regardless of results. Exactly. Like if we play badly but win, it might suggest that we could play badly and win in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 Erm, yeah you did, practically verbatim. "Someone who sees it as I do" = "people that agree with me..." Well done ladysaint you talk a lot of sense = "...talk sense" Ladysaint talks a lot of sense. In this instance she sees this situation as I do. At no point did I say 'ONLY the people who agree with me talk sense.' HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfan Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 Maybe the beer was stronger than I thought as I did not see 7 shots from Saints last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 Fair play to the supporters who made the trip. It sounded terrible on the radio - also Adkins was saying on another day Lallana could have had a hat trick - not apparent from the radio commentary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 Fair play to the supporters who made the trip. It sounded terrible on the radio - also Adkins was saying on another day Lallana could have had a hat trick - not apparent from the radio commentary? Adkins says anything that comes into his head at the time. Did he mention that we could have lost it as easily as Adam could have scored 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 Just got home. Boring game. Numbers wise, our support was decent. Tons of people sat and hardly made any noise whatsoever. Performance really wasn't very good. One to forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 As others who were there have said it was a dreadful game, we struggled to do anything against a very poor hartlepool team. No atmosphere either, had a good trip with mates but the game was a waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan56 Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 Fortunately I only had to get back to Bedford last night but what an awful performance we who went witnessed. Can't get over how **** poor Guly is now that he has his contract. At one point in the second half he was gifted the ball by the Pools keeper and only needed to lob into an empty net. What does he do? Pass to a lazy totally switched off Lambert who was miles off side. Crass and symptomatic of all that we were last night. Davis too still inspires no confidence coming for balls and failing to get them. We really must get a grip and Adkins needs to kick a few arses in that changing room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 23 February, 2011 Share Posted 23 February, 2011 Fortunately I only had to get back to Bedford last night but what an awful performance we who went witnessed. Can't get over how **** poor Guly is now that he has his contract. At one point in the second half he was gifted the ball by the Pools keeper and only needed to lob into an empty net. What does he do? Pass to a lazy totally switched off Lambert who was miles off side. Crass and symptomatic of all that we were last night. Davis too still inspires no confidence coming for balls and failing to get them. We really must get a grip and Adkins needs to kick a few arses in that changing room. My god I was so annoyed when that happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 24 February, 2011 Share Posted 24 February, 2011 If you look at the fixtures this Saturday and next Tuesday, things could look pretty good this time next week. or pretty bad...........if we lose which is always a possiblity seeing as we don't have a divine right to beat anyone, money makes no difference in this league, teams don't just roll over and die becuase they're playing saints, we're everybody elses cup final so they always play better against us etc etc Luckily we have games in hand which we will of course win despite the fact we're putting in some bad performances at the moment, never mind all the teams around us are bound to slip up soon................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Saint Posted 24 February, 2011 Share Posted 24 February, 2011 Sky sports says there was 7 shots on target and NA said Lallana could have had a hat trick but for some good saves. But you were there and I wasnt so I will take your word. All in all, a point is not too bad and results apart from Brighton went our way Dont Sky are entirely correct. We had 7 on target (two of which were blocked by defenders with brilliant stops and one (from Chaplow) by an excellent save by the keeper) and they had 4 I think but only 1 actually required a save and Kelvin even made that one flashier than he needed to. We also has more corners and much more possession. The half-empty brigade are very very depressing but didn't take the gloss of a good result. The reality is that automatic promotion just got a little easier as our main challengers dropped home points and we picked up one away, closing the disparity in home and away matches to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 24 February, 2011 Share Posted 24 February, 2011 or pretty bad...........if we lose which is always a possiblity seeing as we don't have a divine right to beat anyone, money makes no difference in this league, teams don't just roll over and die becuase they're playing saints, we're everybody elses cup final so they always play better against us etc etc Luckily we have games in hand which we will of course win despite the fact we're putting in some bad performances at the moment, never mind all the teams around us are bound to slip up soon................ We will not lose against Swindon, it's unthinkable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 24 February, 2011 Share Posted 24 February, 2011 If Hartlepool were on top form and contending for the title then a draw might have been a good result - but they aren't and we played badly and seem to have lost our passing ability and hardly troubled their keeper - not a good result at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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