Thedelldays Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 its that time again The general Wimbledon spectator is generally the saddest in sport HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 Whose playing for us this year - is it Andy Murray again. Have we got any female tennis players. Do we have any chance of winning it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 June, 2012 Author Share Posted 26 June, 2012 Whose playing for us this year - is it Andy Murray again. Have we got any female tennis players. Do we have any chance of winning it? all the females (UK wise) are virtually out.......in day 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 I usually pop down with my mate one day in the first week to try and score on the posh girls, it's not a bad day out if it's sunny even if you ain't got tickets for the show courts there's plenty of stuff to do, at least in the first week, after that it's all sh!tty doubles and juniors on the outside courts. I ain't going unless the weather hots up a bit tho! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 all the females (UK wise) are virtually out.......in day 2 Two of the five UK women are still in the competition. Three of the five UK men are still in the competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 all the females (UK wise) are virtually out.......in day 2 Ohhh right - used to follow tennis big time in the days of connors, borge and chrissie and all that - but sort of lost interest. Its one of those tournaments when if you see english success in your lifetime you could probably say that you have witnessed a true historic occassion - a bit like a man standing on the moon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 Two of the five UK women are still in the competition. Three of the five UK men are still in the competition. On day two - that doesnt sound too good to me...! Take it we have no stars then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 On day two - that doesnt sound too good to me...! Take it we have no stars then. No. 4 male in the world is in action right now. A bit of a star I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 No. 4 male in the world is in action right now. A bit of a star I think. Unfortunately Im in Germany at the moment so cant watch - does No 4 male have a name....?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 Unfortunately Im in Germany at the moment so cant watch - does No 4 male have a name....?????? LOL! Andy Murray and he's broken his opponent's serve already - he's playing Davydenko who until a couple of years ago was world no. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 Two more UK players through and Murray is absolutely demolishing Davydenko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 Two more UK players through and Murray is absolutely demolishing Davydenko He'll still lose in the semis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 He'll still lose in the semis. As his ranking would suggest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 As his ranking would suggest Andy Murray is a loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 Andy Murray is a loser. As are many people when they face up to someone who is ranked higher than they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 Isnt Andy Murray a scot, do we have any Englishmen in it, wasnt the last english guy a canadian really. What happened to Tim. Is henman hill still there or is it now murray mound...???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 Andy Murray is by far one of the best Sportsmen the UK has at the moment (in a "big sport"). If as a nation we could comfortably say we had the 4th best footballer in the world, the media would be jizzing themselves. He's achieved more than any British player in the past 100 years or so. In the women's game, having watched them both for a few years now I'm fairly confident that Heather Watson and Laura robson both have the potential to be top 10 players in the coming years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 I've men semi-final tickets, looking forward to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 Andy Murray is by far one of the best Sportsmen the UK has at the moment (in a "big sport"). If as a nation we could comfortably say we had the 4th best footballer in the world, the media would be jizzing themselves. He's achieved more than any British player in the past 100 years or so. In the women's game, having watched them both for a few years now I'm fairly confident that Heather Watson and Laura robson both have the potential to be top 10 players in the coming years. Erm no he hasn't. Fred Perry achieved loads more. He actually won something for a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 Erm no he hasn't. Fred Perry achieved loads more. He actually won something for a start. He did say 'at the moment'. AFAIK Fred Perry is no longer with us. And when he was, it was an amateur game where money didn't matter and only gentlemen played. It's a whole different ball game now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latter day saint Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 He did say 'at the moment'. AFAIK Fred Perry is no longer with us. i think you will find he lives on his rather nice polo shirts think Murray would be better thought off if he didnt come across as a right grumpy cock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 i think you will find he lives on his rather nice polo shirts think Murray would be better thought off if he didnt come across as a right grumpy cock Yep. And if his tactics were less boring and defensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 Yep. And if his tactics were less boring and defensive. Shame you didn't watch this afternoon's match then. He was far from defensive and absolutely wiped the floor with Davydenko who has been in the world top ten for the past 7 years or so and a Grand Slam semi-finalist on a number of occasions. Murray beat him 1, 1 and 2. Of course clay and hard court play tends to be more defensive than grass but his tactics and mindgames with his opponent were breathtaking today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 June, 2012 Author Share Posted 26 June, 2012 Shame you didn't watch this afternoon's match then. He was far from defensive and absolutely wiped the floor with Davydenko who has been in the world top ten for the past 7 years or so and a Grand Slam semi-finalist on a number of occasions. Murray beat him 1, 1 and 2. Of course clay and hard court play tends to be more defensive than grass but his tactics and mindgames with his opponent were breathtaking today. so it should be......being first round etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 so it should be......being first round etc Jamie in not reading / failing to understand tennis and the ability of Murray's first round opponent shocker Respected commentators were saying that Murray could well fall at this first hurdle - he treated it like the high jump and made this very talented and experienced top 10 player look like a novice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 June, 2012 Author Share Posted 26 June, 2012 there is a reason why murray played this bloke in the first round.....the seedings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 there is a reason why murray played this bloke in the first round.....the seedings. That's not quite right. The seedings are established and then it's a draw to see who plays the seeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 June, 2012 Author Share Posted 26 June, 2012 (edited) That's not quite right. The seedings are established and then it's a draw to see who plays the seeds. serious question. what seed was andy Ms opponent this year? edit...he was not seeded. not in the predicted top 32 in wimbledon. and is no. 47 in the world you would expect the no4 seed and no4 in the world to dispatch said opponent...anything else would have been a complete shock result Edited 26 June, 2012 by Thedelldays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 Laura Robson had a great go today. 3rd youngest person in the draw. She's one for the future, top 10 definitely. Hits the ball so hard. People need to get over the 'anyone but England' joke Murray made years ago too. Love Wimbledon though. Going again this year, but I do hate how everyone suddenly thinks they are a tennis expert based on watching a couple of matches over 2 weeks once a year. The same people who argue Andy Murray is **** when he is probably the best tennis player to be born in the UK ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillyanne Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 That's as it may be but Murray is leading on match stats against him. Can you not just support the British players FFS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 serious question. what seed was andy Ms opponent this year? edit...he was not seeded. not in the predicted top 32 in wimbledon. and is no. 47 in the world you would expect the no4 seed and no4 in the world to dispatch said opponent...anything else would have been a complete shock result Davydenko is ranked 41 in the world if I remember the prematch stuff correctly. Used to be top 5 though and a fairly steady opponent. A big test for Murray in the first round and I was a bit worried because Murray often starts slow. Came through well though, but he has a very tough draw to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 June, 2012 Author Share Posted 26 June, 2012 Davydenko is ranked 41 in the world if I remember the prematch stuff correctly. Used to be top 5 though and a fairly steady opponent. A big test for Murray in the first round and I was a bit worried because Murray often starts slow. Came through well though, but he has a very tough draw to come. he is no 47....check the ATP site if you don't believe me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 he is no 47....check the ATP site if you don't believe me I trust you. It is still one of the hardest draws he could have had. The guy won the ATP tour championships only 3 years ago and was a top 5 player. But Murray dealt with it excellently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 serious question. what seed was andy Ms opponent this year? edit...he was not seeded. not in the predicted top 32 in wimbledon. and is no. 47 in the world you would expect the no4 seed and no4 in the world to dispatch said opponent...anything else would have been a complete shock result Absolutely right. However, look here: http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Nikolay-Davydenko.aspx And you will see that 2010 was the first year he'd been outside the top 10. From memory, I think that may have been because of the distraction of the claims that he'd been involved in a betting scam (he was cleared). The way that seedings work is that top 16 are expected to beat lesser ranked players and then start to meet each other in the later stages of the competition. So, with respect, the fact that he's ranked 47 this year is a bit of a red herring. Just take a moment to read just what he's achieved over the past 5 years. He was no pushover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 June, 2012 Author Share Posted 26 June, 2012 oh good...if this russian was so good and andy brushed past him...we should expect a smooth path to the semi's (where he will lose) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 I don't understand why people are so keen to paint Andy Murray as a rubbish player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 oh good...if this russian was so good and andy brushed past him...we should expect a smooth path to the semi's (where he will lose) If he was expected to win in a semi final, he would have been ranked no. 1 or 2, wouldn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 oh good...if this russian was so good and andy brushed past him...we should expect a smooth path to the semi's (where he will lose) He has been in 3 grand slam finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 June, 2012 Author Share Posted 26 June, 2012 I don't understand why people are so keen to paint Andy Murray as a rubbish player. im not..quite the opposite..I said he should be expected (given his level of talent) to brush past the worlds no 47 and a wimbledon unseeded player in round 1.....you and BTF are making out how brilliant it was...to win a round 1 tie.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 im not..quite the opposite..I said he should be expected (given his level of talent) to brush past the worlds no 47 and a wimbledon unseeded player in round 1.....you and BTF are making out how brilliant it was...to win a round 1 tie.. Not at all. Just it was a tougher than normal first round. I think me and BTF are just a little bit protective as all tennis followers are because of the constant and unfair Murray bashing when he has achieved a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 June, 2012 Author Share Posted 26 June, 2012 Not at all. Just it was a tougher than normal first round. I think me and BTF are just a little bit protective as all tennis followers are because of the constant and unfair Murray bashing when he has achieved a lot. well, that is our problem...over praising something which is nothing special...I probably believe murry has more ability than you think he has..given how much of an achievement you think it was...where I said it should be expected....and I DO expect him to get to at least the Semi's.....he is that good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 well, that is our problem...over praising something which is nothing special...I probably believe murry has more ability than you think he has..given how much of an achievement you think it was...where I said it should be expected....and I DO expect him to get to at least the Semi's.....he is that good Yep, he is a fantastic player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 June, 2012 Author Share Posted 26 June, 2012 Yep, he is a fantastic player. then, winning round one...of all the possible round one opponents should be expected... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 then, winning round one...of all the possible round one opponents should be expected... Indeed it should be expected. None of us are saying it wasn't. All that we said is that it was a particularly tough match up for a first round, probably the hardest possible. We are just saying that the way he dealt with it demonstrates his ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 You really should ignore Davydenko's low ranking this year, TDD. Players' rankings (not the same as seedings) are very much dependent on the ATP tournaments. If they don't play in those tournaments for whatever reason their rankings suffer. The Williams sisters have both had their rankings slashed in the past because they've been injured and therefore unable to play in ATP tournaments. Maria Sharapova was out of the top 5 in 2007 and 2008 because of shoulder injuries and was ranked 126 in 2009. She was ranked 18 in 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 June, 2012 Author Share Posted 26 June, 2012 venus williams is very low on the rankings...as indeed, already out. not really a coincidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 venus williams is very low on the rankings...as indeed, already out. not really a coincidence That's right - she has an autoimmune disease disorder and hasn't played much recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 2 to 3 years ago I thought Murray was a complete coc8. But he has won me over, I really want him to be successful now. But as TDD pointed out in the OP, 95% of tennis fans at WImbledon are mentally deranged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillyanne Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 Hatch just because your thing seems to be horses doesn't mean you should 'diss' other sports! Murray may well surprise us? who knows. Did you do well at Royal Ascot btw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillyanne Posted 26 June, 2012 Share Posted 26 June, 2012 2 to 3 years ago I thought Murray was a complete coc8. But he has won me over, I really want him to be successful now. But as TDD pointed out in the OP, 95% of tennis fans at WImbledon are mentally deranged. Oh and 95% of racegoers are emblazened with the most strange clothing, tweed, red/yellow/blue trousers and look retarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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