Glasgow_Saint Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 who do we want now JP is days away from walking (or getting sacked) Ill go for Keano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Billy Davies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Don't you know that you can get 4,002 crap Dutch coaches for the price of a Keano? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Majestic Channon Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Forget it, none of those would be willing to be Lowelife's puppet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Forget it, none of those would be willing to be Lowelife's puppet. What he said. :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Davies. We will however stuck with Wotte and Hockady,how inspiring that will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 davies keane ince in that order of preference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 20 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Davies. We will however stuck with Wotte and Hockady,how inspiring that will be. Dudd & Gormless did ok last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Dudd & Gormless did ok last season Yep, they were superb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 I do feel a bit sorry for Jan: A decent bloke who has had to fork out some of his own cash to come here, HOWEVER, it just isn't good enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 I do feel a bit sorry for Jan: A decent bloke who has had to fork out some of his own cash to come here, HOWEVER, it just isn't good enough The word 'mug' springs to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 I do feel a bit sorry for Jan: A decent bloke who has had to fork out some of his own cash to come here, HOWEVER, it just isn't good enough I suspect he's got it back in a round-about manner... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Lowey is the main problem and will have to go now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildgoose Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Nothing will change. It'll be the same or worse by Monday What a sad, sad state we're in. The worst in over 30 years and now no sign at all of improving. In the old days something would always happen to pick things up but those days are long past. I'm finally resigned to that now..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Would love to see RK here - not for the football - but just to get ripped into some of these players and explain what it means to the average 'working man' in the street. So much for the 'pride' - where the hell did that go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Nothing will change. It'll be the same or worse by Monday What a sad, sad state we're in. The worst in over 30 years and now no sign at all of improving. In the old days something would always happen to pick things up but those days are long past. I'm finally resigned to that now..... So how much further do you think that we will fall before we bottom out....??? Blue square anybody...??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Would love to see RK here - not for the football - but just to get ripped into some of these players and explain what it means to the average 'working man' in the street. So much for the 'pride' - where the hell did that go? I'd love to see Roy Keane discussing the term 'work ethic' with David McGoldrick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubsaint Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 keane is a quitter, paul ince has something to prove if poss. i would try and get him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 In all honesty Rupert wouldn't get any of them in. They would cost bucket loads and wouldn't be "yes men." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 In all honesty Rupert wouldn't get any of them in. They would cost bucket loads and wouldn't be "yes men." Precisely. A laughable thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Precisely. A laughable thread. the same was said when we got burley... exactly the same... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumstead_Saint Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Have you seen how Sunderland are doing since Keane walked out Oh and Ince didn't do too well at Blackburn either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 I'd love to see Roy Keane discussing the term 'work ethic' with David McGoldrick. Personally I dont think the conversation would take place until Keane had ragged his lazy ass around the training ground for a week solid. From the little I've seen and what I've heard - DMG is a man who readibly believes his own headlines - time for a good kickin' and reality check methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 20 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Have you seen how Sunderland are doing since Keane walked out Oh and Ince didn't do too well at Blackburn either. Keano got Sunderland promoted and Ince did very well at MK Dons. JP has no achievements as a manager - he persists with the same formation and has no plan B EVER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Poppa Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 As much as I hate to say it, Jan needs to step down as head coach before it's to late. We don't seem to be able to adapt to certain situations thrown at us during the game, if things don't go are way ie no plan b. Out of work managers that could come in... Roy Keane Paul Ince Terry Venables Glen Hoddle David O'Leary Billy Davis Kevin Keegan Alan Curbishley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumstead_Saint Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Ince did very well at MK Dons. Wooohooo! :smt044 Mick McCarthy got Sunderland promoted as well, and he didn't need £70 million to spend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 get a grip,none of them will get the gig,we aint got the money to pay that sort of manager and we havnt got the money for a decent transfer kitty for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modern matron Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 As much as I hate to say it, Jan needs to step down as head coach before it's to late. We don't seem to be able to adapt to certain situations thrown at us during the game, if things don't go are way ie no plan b. Out of work managers that could come in... Roy Keane Paul Ince Terry Venables Glen Hoddle David O'Leary Billy Davis Kevin Keegan Alan Curbishley This is ridiculous! None of these would be interested. We have to look at lower league managers/coaches that would work with youngsters and no transfer budget in my opinion. Names such as Jim Gannon at Stockport, Nigel Adkins at S****horpe, Kenny Jackett at Millwall, John Sheridan at Oldham, Peter Taylor at Wycombe, Paul Tisdale at Exeter or Gary Waddock at Aldershot are in our league. I would go for Gannon or Taylor with Paul Tisdale as a long shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Would rather have Micky Adams myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 What happened to Joe Royle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Would rather have Micky Adams myself. Not sure he would want to step down to a lower grade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Think either of those would do good for us. They are hard lined managers and simply will not be happy with tip tap football. If i had to choose i would go for Keane but i think without any money he would not come here even if we could afford him. Ince i think would come here and i think would do very well with our squad, he is very much in the Pearson mould of manager. Plus he has ALOT of football contacts around europe who no doubt would give him a favour or two. The only problem is whoever did come in would have to now win instantly. Jan has ****ed up so bad that we have to win 7 of our last 22 games just to be on par (12 wins 12 loses). That means minimum of 33% win ratio. That is quite high and would be difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Think either of those would do good for us. They are hard lined managers and simply will not be happy with tip tap football. If i had to choose i would go for Keane but i think without any money he would not come here even if we could afford him. Ince i think would come here and i think would do very well with our squad, he is very much in the Pearson mould of manager. Plus he has ALOT of football contacts around europe who no doubt would give him a favour or two. The only problem is whoever did come in would have to now win instantly. Jan has ****ed up so bad that we have to win 7 of our last 22 games just to be on par (12 wins 12 loses). That means minimum of 33% win ratio. That is quite high and would be difficult.[/quote] That is frightening! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modern matron Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Think either of those would do good for us. They are hard lined managers and simply will not be happy with tip tap football. If i had to choose i would go for Keane but i think without any money he would not come here even if we could afford him. Ince i think would come here and i think would do very well with our squad, he is very much in the Pearson mould of manager. Plus he has ALOT of football contacts around europe who no doubt would give him a favour or two. The only problem is whoever did come in would have to now win instantly. Jan has ****ed up so bad that we have to win 7 of our last 22 games just to be on par (12 wins 12 loses). That means minimum of 33% win ratio. That is quite high and would be difficult. Why would Ince or Keane come to us? Dream on..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tango Man Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Maybe we should take all three... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Why would Ince or Keane come to us? Dream on..... Simply because they want a job with no pressure. Ince went to Maccelsfield and kept them in what div 3? Then went to MK Dons. The jump to prem league was probably to soon. I can see him wanting to go to a club and build something. He will not get offered another prem job, it just doesnt happen. People like Ince/Davies/Keane/Pardew/Adams/Curbishley and Keane etc.. will not be offered another prem team, they will have to go to a CCC team and do what people like Mcarthey/Coleman/Jones/ are doing. Very few if any of the CCC team have loads of money to burn like we did when we spent 12m in 2 seasons. All clubs are having to tighten their belts. So looking at the league where would those managers go? My view is those managers are not being managers for money, it has never been about money, they are all multi-millionaires. People like Ince/Keane if they wanted could probably buy more shares in our club then people like Lowe can. The reason they manage is because they are addicted to football the same as you and me, they are so used to winning and being a success that they simply can't walk away from the game. So you say dream on but reality is none of those managers will get offered prem jobs and will take most CCC jobs regardless of money. If they take the job and fail they say they had awful resources and use that as a way to make them look better. Where as if they come in and actually save a team from relegation (such as Ince did at Maccelsfield and Keane did at Sunderland) makes their reputation go sky high. They would see a club like ours as something where they can build something slowley over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modern matron Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Simply because they want a job with no pressure. Ince went to Maccelsfield and kept them in what div 3? Then went to MK Dons. The jump to prem league was probably to soon. I can see him wanting to go to a club and build something. He will not get offered another prem job, it just doesnt happen. People like Ince/Davies/Keane/Pardew/Adams/Curbishley and Keane etc.. will not be offered another prem team, they will have to go to a CCC team and do what people like Mcarthey/Coleman/Jones/ are doing. Very few if any of the CCC team have loads of money to burn like we did when we spent 12m in 2 seasons. All clubs are having to tighten their belts. So looking at the league where would those managers go? My view is those managers are not being managers for money, it has never been about money, they are all multi-millionaires. People like Ince/Keane if they wanted could probably buy more shares in our club then people like Lowe can. The reason they manage is because they are addicted to football the same as you and me, they are so used to winning and being a success that they simply can't walk away from the game. So you say dream on but reality is none of those managers will get offered prem jobs and will take most CCC jobs regardless of money. If they take the job and fail they say they had awful resources and use that as a way to make them look better. Where as if they come in and actually save a team from relegation (such as Ince did at Maccelsfield and Keane did at Sunderland) makes their reputation go sky high. They would see a club like ours as something where they can build something slowley over time. Sorry Marco. you're in dreamland! Do you really think wealthy , successful premiership players come managers would work for Lowe with his methods? Ince and Keane will get another chance at the top you mark my words. Coming to us having to sell everyone with no transfer budget, not in full control.......no chance!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Sorry Marco. you're in dreamland! Do you really think wealthy , successful premiership players come managers would work for Lowe with his methods? Ince and Keane will get another chance at the top you mark my words. Coming to us having to sell everyone with no transfer budget, not in full control.......no chance!!! Oh dont get me wrong none of them will put up with Lowe and his nonsense. But in terms of jobs there are only a handful of teams in the prem league who would give them the job of manager. They failed in their last jobs with millions to spend and majority of CCC teams are in trouble someway or another. Look at the teams who came down last year. 1 is 2nd to bottom of the league and 1 is near the relegation zone. Having loads of money does not mean your escape the toughness of the league. Nobody gets fired when their team is near the top only when they are near the bottom, such is how football works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modern matron Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Oh dont get me wrong none of them will put up with Lowe and his nonsense. But in terms of jobs there are only a handful of teams in the prem league who would give them the job of manager. They failed in their last jobs with millions to spend and majority of CCC teams are in trouble someway or another. Look at the teams who came down last year. 1 is 2nd to bottom of the league and 1 is near the relegation zone. Having loads of money does not mean your escape the toughness of the league. Nobody gets fired when their team is near the top only when they are near the bottom, such is how football works. Sorry Reading and Birmingham disprove that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Why the fu(k would anyone want to work with Rupert Lowe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 (edited) ... Edited 20 December, 2008 by Delmary wrong thread. doh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGC Saint Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 As much as I hate to say it, Jan needs to step down as head coach before it's to late. We don't seem to be able to adapt to certain situations thrown at us during the game, if things don't go are way ie no plan b. Out of work managers that could come in... Roy Keane Paul Ince Terry Venables Glen Hoddle David O'Leary Billy Davis Kevin Keegan Alan Curbishley Any of the above just not Jan please please please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Any of the above just not Jan please please please! I'm not too sure about Venables. What's George Graham doing these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 I think out of that list curbs is the only one that we could come close to affording, and a quick change of manager can do wonders for a club and the players motivation - looking at blackburn and spurs (though the latter had alot of good players) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 I'd like Davies.............but tis obvious that we'll end up with a Hockaday/Wotte combo, deja view.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Sorry Reading and Birmingham disprove that.... How exactly do Birmingham and Reading disprove that? If you mean as in because they currently sit 2nd and 3rd? Look at the league table and your see about 15 teams who have been in the Premiership within the last 8 years or so. Point being that the majority of teams in this league have been in the prem league then dropped down and struggled financially since. Very very few managers get lucky enough to find themselves at a club that is both safe in the financial area and have a good squad of players of whom none will leave, again that is not how football works. People like Glenn Roeder are a prime example to disprove your theory. A manager who has been in charge of clubs like Newcastle and now finds himself near the relegation zone in the CCC. People like Boythroid (or however it is spelt) who did wonders for teams like Watford , getting them promoted and to an fa cup semi-final only a year or two ago, now he has no job. Alan Pardew is another example, as is Dowie etc.. etc.. Keane and Ince join the list of people who did something then failed so again have to work their way back into the prem league. If you think a club in the prem league will come in for them with their records then you must be the one in dreamland... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 How exactly do Birmingham and Reading disprove that? If you mean as in because they currently sit 2nd and 3rd? Look at the league table and your see about 15 teams who have been in the Premiership within the last 8 years or so. Point being that the majority of teams in this league have been in the prem league then dropped down and struggled financially since. Very very few managers get lucky enough to find themselves at a club that is both safe in the financial area and have a good squad of players of whom none will leave, again that is not how football works. People like Glenn Roeder are a prime example to disprove your theory. A manager who has been in charge of clubs like Newcastle and now finds himself near the relegation zone in the CCC. People like Boythroid (or however it is spelt) who did wonders for teams like Watford , getting them promoted and to an fa cup semi-final only a year or two ago, now he has no job. Alan Pardew is another example, as is Dowie etc.. etc.. Keane and Ince join the list of people who did something then failed so again have to work their way back into the prem league. If you think a club in the prem league will come in for them with their records then you must be the one in dreamland... Boothroyd! There's another name to add to the list... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 As much as I hate to say it, Jan needs to step down as head coach before it's to late. We don't seem to be able to adapt to certain situations thrown at us during the game, if things don't go are way ie no plan b. Out of work managers that could come in... Roy Keane Paul Ince Terry Venables Glen Hoddle David O'Leary Billy Davis Kevin Keegan Alan Curbishley Glenn could be the one, but in the circumstances that we are in I would think Paul Ince is the better choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Roy Keane is a quitter, the going gets tough, he jumps ship I'll take Billy, the derby troll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Controller Posted 21 December, 2008 Share Posted 21 December, 2008 Keegan would be obvious choice but could not afford his wages, so i'd be happy with Curbishley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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