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Wilde has confirmed he will not attend the AGM !

This further confirms that Wilde is not fit to be chairman of Southampton Fc

The man should be attending to answer questions from the shareholders how he has caused this awful mess at the club !! Wilde you have no bottle please leave now !!!!

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Wilde has confirmed he will not attend the AGM !

This further confirms that Wilde is not fit to be chairman of Southampton Fc

The man should be attending to answer questions from the shareholders how he has caused this awful mess at the club !! Wilde you have no bottle please leave now !!!!

 

And take Lowe and the rest of the useless board with you

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Perhaps he's not going because he can't look RL in the face when he withdraws his backing?

 

It's a farce. The biggest day in the business of a football club and no attendance. Perhaps he has family problems, so let's not assume he's a coward or not interetsed. Let's be a bit more charitable, after all it is the season of good will to ALL men, even these two clowns.

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Perhaps he's not going because he can't look RL in the face when he withdraws his backing?

 

It's a farce. The biggest day in the business of a football club and no attendance. Perhaps he has family problems, so let's not assume he's a coward or not interetsed. Let's be a bit more charitable, after all it is the season of good will to ALL men, even these two clowns.

 

Yorkie this is normal for him, he did not turn up for the first three board meetings when he was chairman last time !!!so lets not be charitable to him !!!

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Quote from Cicero. Seems to apply rather well:

 

TREASON

 

A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.

 

An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly. But the traitor moves among those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the galleys, heard in the very hall of government itself.

 

For the traitor appears not a traitor—he speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and wears their face and their garment, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation—he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city—he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared.......Cicero, 42 B.C.E.

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Wilde has confirmed he will not attend the AGM !

This further confirms that Wilde is not fit to be chairman of Southampton Fc

The man should be attending to answer questions from the shareholders how he has caused this awful mess at the club !! Wilde you have no bottle please leave now !!!!

 

source or sauce?

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Wildes only good at loading the gun and getting others to fire the bullets. He´s done it from day one when he used Keith Legg and the Saints Trust. It´s hardly surprising he´s not bothering to perform his duties as Chairman now.

 

I hope this decision heralds the end of his involvement with SFC.

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Because people like you wanted Lowe Out, no matter what the alternative was, and believed his ridiculous lies first time around.

 

LOL.

 

We didn't know they were lies at the time though did we!

 

Hindsight is a wonderful thing eh?

 

Also, did Wilde forget to mention his long standing family commitment overseas when he was discussing the date of the AGM with Rupes?

 

The two Chairmen of the club DO speak to each other don't they?

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Because people like you wanted Lowe Out, no matter what the alternative was, and believed his ridiculous lies first time around.

 

I stand by my previous support of him.

 

Nobody was to know he either suffers from serious judgemental issues or is a bit flaky ...

 

My one regret looking back at the whole sequence of events is that Crouch's sudden reluctance to back Wilde unequivocally at the Northam Social Club meeting was largely glossed over and not questioned. And for this reason out of all the main culpritts, Crouch is the only one I would give another chance to..

 

Greater and closer (wo)men than me (Trant, McMenemy, Corbett) were conned by Wilde too...

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LOL.

 

We didn't know they were lies at the time though did we!

 

Hindsight is a wonderful thing eh?

 

It wasn't that hard to figure him out:

 

Sat Jun 24, 2006 11:13 am Post subject: Where is the investment coming from?

 

My reading of the accounts of Merlion plc, is that it has a high level of borrowing with a resultant high level of interest payments. Most of the profits the company makes, rather than being re-invested in the group, are taken out in the form of dividends.....So, in 2004, out of a profit of about £1.1M, a dividend of over £800K was paid out. Amazingly, in 2003, although a profit of only about £500K was made, over £1M was taken out by Wilde.

I haven't a clue what Wilde is personally worth, but it seems to have come mainly from bleeding the company he runs. What we are left with is a company, in my opinion, with high gearing, large debts and interest payments of over £500K a year. With the low level of net assets, due, for instance, to the withdrawal of £1.8M in dividends against £1.5M in net profits over the two years, 2003-2004, Merlion seems to be very susceptible to any increase in interest rates and downturn in the property market.

How does this affect Saints you may wonder? Well let's imagine Wilde has bled £5M from Merlion over 5 years. He punts a couple of million in Saints shares to satisfy his ego and very poor investment judgement. Interest rates go up a couple of percent, property sales dip and all of a sudden, Merlion can't afford the £500K a year in interest to service their debt. The banks look to the shareholders or they will call in the loans and he either has to sell his Saints shares or let Merlion go to the wall. With potential personal guarantees, things are looking grim and the last thing him and people like Patrick Trant, also involved in building, want to do is invest further money in a Championship football club that is going nowhere. I'm not saying this will happen and I am sure Wilde understands the risks of running a company like Merlion plc. I am also sure that I would not like him running Southampton Leisure plc in the way he seems to be running Merlion plc.

For that reason, if he wins the EGM, I will be selling my shares PDQ and will certainly not be providing any more money in the form of a rights issue.

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It wasn't that hard to figure him out:

 

As your previous post states, Wilde had 'bled' £5m from Merlion in the previous 5 years.

 

He said he was going to invest circa £2m of his own money if needed didn't he?

 

It's not unreasonable to suggest that someone that had earnt £5m in the previous 5 years - however principled his earnings may or may not have been - possibly hadn't spunked the lot and still had £2m left. So if he said he was going to invest his own money, how is it possible - AT THAT TIME - to know he was lying?

 

I don't think his honesty and morality is in any doubt now, but at that time, very little was known about him - from an SFC point of view.....

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I stand by my previous support of him.

 

Nobody was to know he either suffers from serious judgemental issues or is a bit flaky ...

 

To quote you:

 

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

 

Many people were wary and unsure at the time. They were all rubbished, again by people like yourself. lol@you,youidiot

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To quote you:

 

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

 

Many people were wary and unsure at the time. They were all rubbished, again by people like yourself. lol@you,youidiot

 

As I wrote, I stand by my decision. I reckon the roll-of-the-dice to go for broke for promotion to the PL in Burley's first full year was correct, however it was impossible to legislate for a demotivated, disinterested and incompetent manager with personal issues. And there were a lot more prominent "idiots" than me....

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The leading figures at our club are charlatans and/or shisters.

 

Good quote by Offix:

 

Quote from Cicero. Seems to apply rather well:

 

TREASON

 

A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.

 

An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly. But the traitor moves among those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the galleys, heard in the very hall of government itself.

 

For the traitor appears not a traitor—he speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and wears their face and their garment, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation—he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city—he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared.......Cicero, 42 B.C.E.

 

Thats worth going on a t-shirt !

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Because people like you wanted Lowe Out, no matter what the alternative was, and believed his ridiculous lies first time around.

 

Spot on. Sheep like Apline swallowed the spin hook line and sinker.

 

What is really sad is that they still keep slagiing off the same old targets when they should be looking at themselves.

 

Take Alpine's agenda for example. Because he has decided that all of our problems are down to Lowe he feels it necessary to slag him of, any any one associated with him, at every opportunity.

 

Woodward and Burley were (and are) legitimate targets because LOwe brought them here.

 

Burley was getting flak from Alpine even when we were chasing the play off spot.

 

Then his agenda kicks in again when he nails his flag to the any one but Lowe brigade. Pearson comes in and winds fewer matcheds than Burley but gets Alpine's total support because a) apparently he is a decent chap and b) Lowe did not bring him in.

 

Because subjectivity needs to be justified Alpine tells us that JP is a decent chap too but because the anti Lowe aganda needs to be fed, we are told that he is failing because of Lowe.

 

Now to the best of my knowledge Alpine has bever met anyone who manages SFC. Certainly not Burley, Pearson or JP. Yet he is able, from his bunker in Austria, to determine that Burley is thoroughly despicable and deserving of being "lumped" but that Pearson and JP are both thoroughly decent types who he would happily have round to Chez Alpine for a slice of Black Forest gateaux on a Sunday afternoon.

 

As far as I know Alpine has never met Lowe, Wilde, Crouch or any of these characters yet he makes statements about them as if he sits in the same board meetings and knows the innermost workings of their minds.

 

I will give him his due though, he is very consistant and will slag off club members whether we are doing well or not.

 

This is the man remember who thjought that Burley was deliberatley sabotaging our efforts to go up!!!

 

Whatever you think of people at the club, be they board members or players, I believe that they do what they believe to be their best for us when they are here. Yes they make mistakes (and are not alone there as the majority of clubs do not achieve any level of success in a season).

 

Yes, other people would do things differently but that does not mean they would do any better.

 

Wilde and Crouch were both given a lot of support on here because a) they were not Lowe and b) they were supporters.

 

Neither managed the expecations of the suporters and Crouch almost presided over relegation.

 

SFC are not alone in having spent time in the top flight and are now struggling in the second tier, look around you. It happens. Lowe and Wilde have not had any influence on these other clubs. Every club has people at the top who are doing what they can they way they think best to get their club back to where the fans expect them to be. Most of these people are failing.

 

It seems the only way that the Alpine brigade can deal with the disppointment of not being Chelsea or Manchester United isn to find targets to shoot at. Consequently Alpine will spend the rest of his days on here slagging off one person or another.

 

What a waste of time and energy.

 

If you do not enjoy the process of supporting a football club, why even bother?

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Spot on. Sheep like Apline swallowed the spin hook line and sinker.

 

What is really sad is that they still keep slagiing off the same old targets when they should be looking at themselves.

 

Take Alpine's agenda for example. Because he has decided that all of our problems are down to Lowe he feels it necessary to slag him of, any any one associated with him, at every opportunity.

 

Woodward and Burley were (and are) legitimate targets because LOwe brought them here.

 

Burley was getting flak from Alpine even when we were chasing the play off spot.

 

Then his agenda kicks in again when he nails his flag to the any one but Lowe brigade. Pearson comes in and winds fewer matcheds than Burley but gets Alpine's total support because a) apparently he is a decent chap and b) Lowe did not bring him in.

 

Because subjectivity needs to be justified Alpine tells us that JP is a decent chap too but because the anti Lowe aganda needs to be fed, we are told that he is failing because of Lowe.

 

Now to the best of my knowledge Alpine has bever met anyone who manages SFC. Certainly not Burley, Pearson or JP. Yet he is able, from his bunker in Austria, to determine that Burley is thoroughly despicable and deserving of being "lumped" but that Pearson and JP are both thoroughly decent types who he would happily have round to Chez Alpine for a slice of Black Forest gateaux on a Sunday afternoon.

 

As far as I know Alpine has never met Lowe, Wilde, Crouch or any of these characters yet he makes statements about them as if he sits in the same board meetings and knows the innermost workings of their minds.

 

I will give him his due though, he is very consistant and will slag off club members whether we are doing well or not.

 

This is the man remember who thjought that Burley was deliberatley sabotaging our efforts to go up!!!

 

Whatever you think of people at the club, be they board members or players, I believe that they do what they believe to be their best for us when they are here. Yes they make mistakes (and are not alone there as the majority of clubs do not achieve any level of success in a season).

 

Yes, other people would do things differently but that does not mean they would do any better.

 

Wilde and Crouch were both given a lot of support on here because a) they were not Lowe and b) they were supporters.

 

Neither managed the expecations of the suporters and Crouch almost presided over relegation.

 

SFC are not alone in having spent time in the top flight and are now struggling in the second tier, look around you. It happens. Lowe and Wilde have not had any influence on these other clubs. Every club has people at the top who are doing what they can they way they think best to get their club back to where the fans expect them to be. Most of these people are failing.

 

It seems the only way that the Alpine brigade can deal with the disppointment of not being Chelsea or Manchester United isn to find targets to shoot at. Consequently Alpine will spend the rest of his days on here slagging off one person or another.

 

What a waste of time and energy.

 

If you do not enjoy the process of supporting a football club, why even bother?

 

About the only line of this post that made any sense. A Freudian slip...

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Spot on. Sheep like Apline swallowed the spin hook line and sinker.

 

What is really sad is that they still keep slagiing off the same old targets when they should be looking at themselves.

 

Take Alpine's agenda for example. Because he has decided that all of our problems are down to Lowe he feels it necessary to slag him of, any any one associated with him, at every opportunity.

 

Woodward and Burley were (and are) legitimate targets because LOwe brought them here.

 

Burley was getting flak from Alpine even when we were chasing the play off spot.

 

Then his agenda kicks in again when he nails his flag to the any one but Lowe brigade. Pearson comes in and winds fewer matcheds than Burley but gets Alpine's total support because a) apparently he is a decent chap and b) Lowe did not bring him in.

 

Because subjectivity needs to be justified Alpine tells us that JP is a decent chap too but because the anti Lowe aganda needs to be fed, we are told that he is failing because of Lowe.

 

Now to the best of my knowledge Alpine has bever met anyone who manages SFC. Certainly not Burley, Pearson or JP. Yet he is able, from his bunker in Austria, to determine that Burley is thoroughly despicable and deserving of being "lumped" but that Pearson and JP are both thoroughly decent types who he would happily have round to Chez Alpine for a slice of Black Forest gateaux on a Sunday afternoon.

 

As far as I know Alpine has never met Lowe, Wilde, Crouch or any of these characters yet he makes statements about them as if he sits in the same board meetings and knows the innermost workings of their minds.

 

I will give him his due though, he is very consistant and will slag off club members whether we are doing well or not.

 

This is the man remember who thjought that Burley was deliberatley sabotaging our efforts to go up!!!

 

Whatever you think of people at the club, be they board members or players, I believe that they do what they believe to be their best for us when they are here. Yes they make mistakes (and are not alone there as the majority of clubs do not achieve any level of success in a season).

 

Yes, other people would do things differently but that does not mean they would do any better.

 

Wilde and Crouch were both given a lot of support on here because a) they were not Lowe and b) they were supporters.

 

Neither managed the expecations of the suporters and Crouch almost presided over relegation.

 

SFC are not alone in having spent time in the top flight and are now struggling in the second tier, look around you. It happens. Lowe and Wilde have not had any influence on these other clubs. Every club has people at the top who are doing what they can they way they think best to get their club back to where the fans expect them to be. Most of these people are failing.

 

It seems the only way that the Alpine brigade can deal with the disppointment of not being Chelsea or Manchester United isn to find targets to shoot at. Consequently Alpine will spend the rest of his days on here slagging off one person or another.

 

What a waste of time and energy.

 

If you do not enjoy the process of supporting a football club, why even bother?

 

As opposed to your deity Lowe who has one in the bag and is looking good for a second ????

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As I wrote, I stand by my decision. I reckon the roll-of-the-dice to go for broke for promotion to the PL in Burley's first full year was correct, however it was impossible to legislate for a demotivated, disinterested and incompetent manager with personal issues. And there were a lot more prominent "idiots" than me....

 

Ah Doctor Alpine, perhaps you would like to present your evidence? Persoanlly I think that you and your obsessive hatred of people you have never met and only know anything about through 3rd hand gossip on the internet far more indictive of having personal issues.

 

In Burley's only full season with us he would have taken the team to the play off final if it hadn't have been for some poor penalties. What a dreaful dreadful failure he is.

 

Yet the man you hail as some kind of hero came in and took us t the brink of relegation, but no scorn poured on him? Go figure.

 

And before you state your we were dropping like a stone mantra - Burely's last ten games in charged yielding the same points level as Hoddles first ten games in charge, which was the best start for a Saints manager since the war.

 

But don't let the fact inerfere with your agenda Alpine.

 

You would have us believe that all was lost when Burley was here. It might not have been fantastic but it was certainly better than anything that has happened since.

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As opposed to your deity Lowe who has one in the bag and is looking good for a second ????

 

 

Feel free to provide evidence of Lowe (or anyone) being my deity.

 

The only way you can support your pathetic claims and agenda is to make pointless and pathetic attacks on others.

 

You were a busted flush a long time ago Alpine.

 

You give you support to some based on irrational hatred of others. No surprise then that you pitch up in Austria. I bet your only regret is that you are not there in the 1930's. You would have been right at home at the birth of the Super Race.

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Ah Doctor Alpine, perhaps you would like to present your evidence? Persoanlly I think that you and your obsessive hatred of people you have never met and only know anything about through 3rd hand gossip on the internet far more indictive of having personal issues.

 

In Burley's only full season with us he would have taken the team to the play off final if it hadn't have been for some poor penalties. What a dreaful dreadful failure he is.

 

Yet the man you hail as some kind of hero came in and took us t the brink of relegation, but no scorn poured on him? Go figure.

 

And before you state your we were dropping like a stone mantra - Burely's last ten games in charged yielding the same points level as Hoddles first ten games in charge, which was the best start for a Saints manager since the war.

 

But don't let the fact inerfere with your agenda Alpine.

 

You would have us believe that all was lost when Burley was here. It might not have been fantastic but it was certainly better than anything that has happened since.

 

You make the same, clapped out tedious points every post. You obviously got bored with stalking Um Pahars, so I'll indulge you a little...

 

Burley got a fortune to spend, got us to the play-offs in 6th place (which was the completely unambitious target he set himself) when we should have been automatic. He got brain farts in team selection everytime we threatened to break into the top 3 (dropping Rasiak for half the season when he was top-scorer in the League, and Skacel who was our main supply along with Bale was utterly f**king ridiculous). Some of the performances that season were utterly dire. He totally didnt bother the next season (I refuse to believe he didnt know the consequences if he failed to get us up when the parachute payments were lost)

 

Pearson took over an utterly knackered, unfit, demotivated team, made some f**king good loan deals and kept us up.

 

I suggest it is you who needs to "go figure"

 

I hope your response refers to Ted Bates and Lawrie Mac in your inimitable time-honoured tradition.

 

How bizarre you now attack me for criticising Wilde, considering your stand before. You are obviously the type to argue over two flies crawling up the wall...

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You give you support to some based on irrational hatred of others. No surprise then that you pitch up in Austria. I bet your only regret is that you are not there in the 1930's. You would have been right at home at the birth of the Super Race.

 

Wow, he's referred to that old knackered cliche. Really time to run the old white flag up, SOGGY...

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Anyone at the AGM able to give updates in an 'Official AGM' thread?

 

 

Not unless they can see into the future, as the AGM is tomorrow!!!!

 

That said, i could give you a rough idea of how it will go.

 

A bit of bluster from Lowe, the odd difficult question will be batted back by Lowe (who is very good in these situations) and then the classic line he has always trotted out which will be along the lines of, the future is bright with the academy ready to roll out some aces to save us on and off the pitch, we just need to give it some time (all of which is impossible to argue against, and he knows that!!).

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We didn't know they were lies at the time though did we!

 

Hindsight is a wonderful thing eh?

 

Come on, some of us were onto him straight away, the problem was that there were a number of vocal people - some in positions of influence with fans - who deliberately ignored those points and joined in the conspiracy for the sake of their own egos. How do you think we ended up with the Saints Trust in bed with Wilde and wilfully lying about share proxies? How do you think we ended up with posters (like me) having their IP addresses traced and having their personal details and places of work plastered across S4E? Never mind people like Crouch and Corbett who were in positions to make the relevant checks on Wilde's promises - completely and utterly negligent (at best).

 

As for not attending the AGM, well why is that a surprise? Why attend the company AGM when you can have Xmas in Singapore instead... like you can't afford to change your 1st class flights eh Mike?

 

The irony is that fans have always had the hump about Lowe and his "ego" - yet the club's demise was kick-started by Wilde's ego and the chance to be chairman, backed by the egos of certain fans who swallowed everything Wilde gave them and helped to perpetuate his lies, aided by McMenemy's ego in trying to prove he knows best (still), and finally cemented by the egos of the likes of Trant, Crouch and Corbett who ensured they would take their chance of personal glory ahead of what was good for the club. Where were all these people when Dulieu came in and took £100k plus 1st class flights for nothing, where were they when Vantis back-charged the club for £90k to pay for Wilde's campaign? Anyone else remember Trant not bothering to turn up for the AGM? Didn't think so, funny how nobody cared back then as it was all "Anyone-But-Lowe"...

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- yet the club's demise was kick-started by Wilde's ego

 

How convenient of you to forget that the demise of this Club was already well underway following relegation under the tenure of Lowe. This Club was a busted flush the minute we got relegated following that disastrous last period overseen by Lowe. It's a pity that many who supported him back then weren't so keen to stand up to him (particularly around the Sturrock/Wigley fiasco).

 

And judging by the fantastic results and atmosphere surrounding the Club following his return, I think his dismissal in 2006 was more than justified.

 

What followed should definitely be open to debate and discussion, but let's not get the debate off on the wrong foot by forgetting the role Lowe played (and is continuing to play) in our demise.

 

Lowe didn't kick start this Club's demise, he sent us hurtling off the cliff.

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Thankyou mate, sorry its just most of the time people spout this kinda stuff of without any real source, Michael Wilde should hang his head in shame the only excuse I can see for non attendance would be the passing of one of his immediate family other than that no excuse, it seems like he planned ages ago not to attend.

 

I think the real reason is he has been told by a certain puppeteer no to :mad:

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This Club was a busted flush the minute we got relegated

 

I love the way you continue to place complete 100% blame on the club's current position on the chairman of the PLC board from 4 seasons ago - even the relegation itself, no blame to be attached to Redknapp for failing to keep us up, Davenport for single-handedly leaking about 20 goals, Crouch for his sending off and Everton ****-up, Killer's injury, etc etc. We had most of the same players that got us to the Cup Final and 4th in the league.

 

I'm sure most people aren't naive enough to think a prudently managed club couldn't survive relegation from the Premiership - of course it's a Bad Thing and it left us with a real problem, but that was nothing compared with the events that kicked off thanks to Wilde and his merry band of muppets. Who the hell increases the wage bill to 80% of turnover without expecting the worst? Who increases the size of the board when we are trying to cut costs? Who uses people like Anderson and Dulieu, who uses underhand tactics to gain control of the website and trust? They had 2 years to sort out the finances and only succeeded in making things worse...

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Ah Doctor Alpine, perhaps you would like to present your evidence? Persoanlly I think that you and your obsessive hatred of people you have never met and only know anything about through 3rd hand gossip on the internet far more indictive of having personal issues.

 

Think before you write!!

 

So anyone who doesn't like the current prime minister, unless of course they have met him in person, has 'personal issues'.

 

It seems to me that Alpine isn't the only one with an agenda ;)

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I love the way you continue to place complete 100% blame on the club's current position on the chairman of the PLC board from 4 seasons ago - even the relegation itself, no blame to be attached to Redknapp for failing to keep us up, Davenport for single-handedly leaking about 20 goals, Crouch for his sending off and Everton ****-up, Killer's injury, etc etc. We had most of the same players that got us to the Cup Final and 4th in the league.

 

I'm sure most people aren't naive enough to think a prudently managed club couldn't survive relegation from the Premiership - of course it's a Bad Thing and it left us with a real problem, but that was nothing compared with the events that kicked off thanks to Wilde and his merry band of muppets. Who the hell increases the wage bill to 80% of turnover without expecting the worst? Who increases the size of the board when we are trying to cut costs? Who uses people like Anderson and Dulieu, who uses underhand tactics to gain control of the website and trust? They had 2 years to sort out the finances and only succeeded in making things worse...

 

The damage was really done with the appointment of Wigley. Athough Redknapp had time to keep us up, the rot had set in. At the beginning of the relegation season, Mr Lowe said that we had the strongest squad that we ever had. Did you believe that? Lack of investment in the team after the Cup Final, the subsequent loss of WGS and non-appointment of a suitable replacement are real causes of the current problems. Was Redknapp a good appointment?? Who made that appointment?

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