What is wrong with America

[hypochondriac]

In other news, I saw that Brigitte Macron is prepared to provide proof that she is a woman in her lawsuit against that odious piece of rubbish Candace Owens. Let's hope she rinses her for all she has.

[hypochondriac]

Just now, Farmer Saint said:

It's arguable, but honestly I don't think it's anywhere near enough to sack someone. It's not like saying something like, oh, I don't know, abortion is worse than the holocaust.

I don't think he should be sacked. It's likely though that with his contract ending soon, Disney probably didn't think it was worth the hassle given it's still arguable like I said. He's not valuable enough for them to bother with and he was silly to put himself in that position.

[spyinthesky]

3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

In other news, I saw that Brigitte Macron is prepared to provide proof that she is a woman in her lawsuit against that odious piece of rubbish Candace Owens. Let's hope she rinses her for all she has.

Apparently quite a few MAGA supporters think Michelle Obama is a man.

I wonder who else is on the list?

[Farmer Saint]

4 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I don't think he should be sacked. It's likely though that with his contract ending soon, Disney probably didn't think it was worth the hassle given it's still arguable like I said. He's not valuable enough for them to bother with and he was silly to put himself in that position.

I don't disagree with that.

It's a shame, I've watched him for years and years, and he is a great broadcaster, the "I'm f***ing Matt Damon" and "I'm f***ing Ben Affleck" stuff back in the day with then girlfriend Sarah Silverman was properly funny. He wasn't a fire-breathing lefty, he just thought Trump and his followers were morons, and there is no real argument there.

[LVSaint]

15 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Who knows what the reason is. All we know is it's definitely not a freedom of speech issue.

It absolutely is. Jimmy Kimmel took the piss out of Trump on a daily basis. He got under Trump's incredibly thin skin all the time. Some punditry shows, like Bill Maher for example have noticeably toned it down in recent months with their criticism of the president. Maher, not long ago had dinner with Trump at the White House. Which is fine, but.....you know. The Kimmel incident will potentially set a president on what can or can not be said and others may or may not follow the narrative. (John Oliver's fucked then)

[Farmer Saint]

2 minutes ago, LVSaint said:

It absolutely is. Jimmy Kimmel took the piss out of Trump on a daily basis. He got under Trump's incredibly thin skin all the time. Some punditry shows, like Bill Maher for example have noticeably toned it down in recent months with their criticism of the president. Maher, not long ago had dinner with Trump at the White House. Which is fine, but.....you know. The Kimmel incident will potentially set a president on what can or can not be said and others may or may not follow the narrative. (John Oliver's fucked then)

I want to see Jon Stewart's reaction as well.

Bill Maher is a sell-out dick sucker.

[hypochondriac]

13 minutes ago, LVSaint said:

It absolutely is. Jimmy Kimmel took the piss out of Trump on a daily basis. He got under Trump's incredibly thin skin all the time. Some punditry shows, like Bill Maher for example have noticeably toned it down in recent months with their criticism of the president. Maher, not long ago had dinner with Trump at the White House. Which is fine, but.....you know. The Kimmel incident will potentially set a president on what can or can not be said and others may or may not follow the narrative. (John Oliver's fucked then)

Explain how any of that impinges on free speech ?

[whelk]

11 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Explain how any of that impinges on free speech ?

You aren’t that stupid

[hypochondriac]

1 minute ago, whelk said:

You aren’t that stupid

Indulge me. Do the FCC rob American citizens of their first amendment rights?

[whelk]

9 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Indulge me. Do the FCC rob American citizens of their first amendment rights?

If you’re too dense to see any connection, I’m afraid I am not going to explain it to you. 

[egg]

Kimmel says something contrary to the narrative. Threat then made, essentially, to pull ABC license unless he's dealt with. He's then taken off air. Of course it's a freedom of speech issue. 

[hypochondriac]

2 minutes ago, egg said:

Kimmel says something contrary to the narrative. Threat then made, essentially, to pull ABC license unless he's dealt with. He's then taken off air. Of course it's a freedom of speech issue. 

The FCC can take you off air for a host of different reasons. If Ofcom uphold complaints from someone on GB news and they are removed from air as a result, in what way are they prevented from speaking ?

[hypochondriac]

If Kimmel were put in jail to prevent what he's saying then I'd wholeheartedly agree his free speech is in jeopardy. He's free to tweet exactly what he said on telly now if he wanted. He could put it on YouTube and probably get multiple millions of eyeballs on him immediately.

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[egg]

Just now, hypochondriac said:

If Kimmel were put in jail to prevent what he's saying then I'd wholeheartedly agree his free speech is in jeopardy. He's free to tweet exactly what he said on telly now if he wanted. He could putnitnon YouTube and probably get multiple millions of eyeballs on him immediately.

Jeez. You don't get this do you. 

[hypochondriac]

2 minutes ago, egg said:

Jeez. You don't get this do you. 

It doesn't threaten his free speech. It's not completely the same but Lawrence Fox was kicked off GB news as a contributor because he made a crass comment about not shagging someone. That wasn't a free speech issue either.

[LVSaint]

5 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

The FCC can take you off air for a host of different reasons. If Ofcom uphold complaints from someone on GB news and they are removed from air as a result, in what way are they prevented from speaking ?

I thought you'd alluded to it earlier in the thread though?

Nexstar are about to do a mega deal merger with another company which needs Trump's...sorry, FCC's authoritarian, sorry, authorisation to complete. Nexstar own lots of local tv channels that air networks, like ABC. That's the way it's done here. FCC says you can merge, however, Kimmel's got to go, have a word with ABC will ya? FCC chief Carr, in effect had already said that a few days ago.

[hypochondriac]

5 minutes ago, LVSaint said:

I thought you'd alluded to it earlier in the thread though?

Nexstar are about to do a mega deal merger with another company which needs Trump's...sorry, FCC's authoritarian, sorry, authorisation to complete. Nexstar own lots of local tv channels that air networks, like ABC. That's the way it's done here. FCC says you can merge, however, Kimmel's got to go, have a word with ABC will ya? FCC chief Carr, in effect had already said that a few days ago.

I don't disagree. It's quite possible there were elements of this involved. I don't think that's a good thing and I don't support him being kicked off. Even if there are dirty dealings to get him off air, he's not been prevented from speaking has he. He still has freedom to say what he likes, just not on ABC.