Saint Charlie Posted 15 September, 2015 Share Posted 15 September, 2015 Yorks 4 down and into the allrounders. Shame tomorrow will probably see no play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 15 September, 2015 Share Posted 15 September, 2015 Well we seem to be making a go of this - could we even win it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 15 September, 2015 Share Posted 15 September, 2015 Well we seem to be making a go of this - could we even win it? Could do, although weather will make it tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 15 September, 2015 Share Posted 15 September, 2015 Sussex vs Somerset looks like it's going to be a friendly draw with max batting and bowling points for both teams. that could well change if we ever looked like winning, would become dog eat dog and far less "friendly" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 September, 2015 Share Posted 16 September, 2015 Started on time then, need a breakthrough if we are to have a realistic chance of actually winning this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 16 September, 2015 Share Posted 16 September, 2015 No more play today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 16 September, 2015 Share Posted 16 September, 2015 This will be a draw then so will need nothing less than a win vs Notts to have any chance. Weather probably going to be a factor in that game too. Shame to go down when the team that ends the season is competitive. Some poor form/signings for the early games has cost us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 16 September, 2015 Share Posted 16 September, 2015 One of the problems facing clubs, particularly Hampshire, is the lack of concentration in building an innings in the 4 day game and to a certain extent the 50 over format. There seems a tendency of late for players to go for quick runs and never mind they get out to a bad shot. When players come up against better bowlers like we have in the 1st division the mind set cannot cope. That has been our problem until recently. The Test series against Australia proved the point. Australia were so intent on playing their shots that they lost the art of building an innings and lost a series they were strong favourites to win by a street. The Hampshire team have noticed and taken that on board. As a result our performances have improved of late. Unfortunately it might be too late for this season but sets next on a firm basis. There are one or two players in the first team squad who are blocking the way for useful younger players who are now knocking on the door. I will not name either sets of players but the club are aware and more will be revealed when the release information is published by the club. We are trying to sign McLaren on a 2 or 3 year contract. It is not a done deal but positive vibes so far. If he does sign it will be as a Kolpac. We are also talking to Edwards but may face competition from other clubs. Nothing was mentioned about the “overseas” possibility next season but it is likely to be a bowler. The club are very impressed with Stevenson and he is bowling at about 83mph and getting the ball to go both ways. They expect his speed to increase as he develops. An exciting find. Watson is a possibility. He has gone home to think about it. However he will only be used for white ball cricket. I know a lot more about the Dawson affair now. I will not repeat it but let us just say it had the desired effect and I can see why the coach took the decisions he did. There is nothing above that is not readily available from various outlets so I am not breaching any confidences. It has been gleaned from frank talks with the Chairman, Coaches and Players by me and other friends over the last week. They are all refreshingly honest and understand the issues and what needs to be done to arrest a very poor season in red ball cricket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 16 September, 2015 Share Posted 16 September, 2015 One of the problems facing clubs, particularly Hampshire, is the lack of concentration in building an innings in the 4 day game and to a certain extent the 50 over format. There seems a tendency of late for players to go for quick runs and never mind they get out to a bad shot. When players come up against better bowlers like we have in the 1st division the mind set cannot cope. That has been our problem until recently. The Test series against Australia proved the point. Australia were so intent on playing their shots that they lost the art of building an innings and lost a series they were strong favourites to win by a street. The Hampshire team have noticed and taken that on board. As a result our performances have improved of late. Unfortunately it might be too late for this season but sets next on a firm basis. There are one or two players in the first team squad who are blocking the way for useful younger players who are now knocking on the door. I will not name either sets of players but the club are aware and more will be revealed when the release information is published by the club. We are trying to sign McLaren on a 2 or 3 year contract. It is not a done deal but positive vibes so far. If he does sign it will be as a Kolpac. We are also talking to Edwards but may face competition from other clubs. Nothing was mentioned about the “overseas” possibility next season but it is likely to be a bowler. The club are very impressed with Stevenson and he is bowling at about 83mph and getting the ball to go both ways. They expect his speed to increase as he develops. An exciting find. Watson is a possibility. He has gone home to think about it. However he will only be used for white ball cricket. I know a lot more about the Dawson affair now. I will not repeat it but let us just say it had the desired effect and I can see why the coach took the decisions he did. There is nothing above that is not readily available from various outlets so I am not breaching any confidences. It has been gleaned from frank talks with the Chairman, Coaches and Players by me and other friends over the last week. They are all refreshingly honest and understand the issues and what needs to be done to arrest a very poor season in red ball cricket. Thanks for posting always good to get your views from close quarters Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 16 September, 2015 Share Posted 16 September, 2015 Ditto, thanks Weston, very useful insight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 16 September, 2015 Share Posted 16 September, 2015 Good win. Shame about his hamstring injury. I do not know how bad it is at the present but he is a big doubt for Somerset next Wednesday. Still we will have Tomlinson, Briggs and Crane available to us. Tomlinson has been offered a lead bowling coaching role with Hampshire over the winter and is delighted. He has a year left on his contract but I can see him moving more to coaching with Topley coming in. Nothing more on having Edwards next season. I suppose it depends on what division we are in for the clubs point of view Rumour that Adams will not be playing next year. I was with his Dad for the early part of the England Australia game but the rumour came later so I did not get chance to ask him Another rumour (Echo) doing the rounds is that Watson might be are overseas next year. Wait to see on that one but it might make sense. He is still a class player.Today I spoke with the person allegedly attributed with the comment about Adams, Kevin James on Solent. He said someone had misunderstood his comment and he has no idea about Adams other than he, Kevin James, expressed the view that he could not see him taking back the captaincy. So no basis for the comment I made for the rumour in my original post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 16 September, 2015 Share Posted 16 September, 2015 Thanks Weston. Would be a big blow to lose Edwards to another county. Bowlers of his type are rare over here and genuine matchwinners at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 17 September, 2015 Share Posted 17 September, 2015 Solent suggesting there might be a contrived result today with Yorkshire declaring first thing - presumably would mean us forfeiting our second innings rather than enforcing the follow-on, leaving a chase of 304 in a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 17 September, 2015 Share Posted 17 September, 2015 Solent suggesting there might be a contrived result today with Yorkshire declaring first thing - presumably would mean us forfeiting our second innings rather than enforcing the follow-on, leaving a chase of 304 in a day. Whyever not, we have nothing to lose really because a draw won't help us a great deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 17 September, 2015 Share Posted 17 September, 2015 Exactly that has happened. Risky but bold decision. Strap in for today then.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 17 September, 2015 Share Posted 17 September, 2015 Good decision to try and get a result. Would favour Yorks myself but you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 17 September, 2015 Share Posted 17 September, 2015 18 for 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 17 September, 2015 Share Posted 17 September, 2015 18-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 17 September, 2015 Share Posted 17 September, 2015 18 for 1. wow, now 18 for 2, they'd better make a bit of a go of it or we'll be accused of a fix by the other struggling counties. Say 250 all out...that sounds like they tried...but not too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 17 September, 2015 Share Posted 17 September, 2015 Going well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 17 September, 2015 Share Posted 17 September, 2015 Going well... perhaps not so much, they seem to be scoring pretty quicky now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 17 September, 2015 Share Posted 17 September, 2015 We need to put the brakes on, they're scoring much too quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 17 September, 2015 Share Posted 17 September, 2015 Starting to look none to great, still a wicket or two would change that, think they had the possibility of far too many overs myself, just need to wait for the bad balls to hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 17 September, 2015 Share Posted 17 September, 2015 Ultimately, they were champions with three games to spare for a reason. We batted pretty well, but the weather has forced our hand here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 17 September, 2015 Share Posted 17 September, 2015 The declaration now looks too generous - it was all a bit too easy for Yorkshire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadesmith Posted 17 September, 2015 Share Posted 17 September, 2015 The declaration now looks too generous - it was all a bit too easy for Yorkshire. To honest if you are getting Yorkshire to forfeit an innings (bear in mind they didn't need to) they are only going to do it if there is a realistic chance they could win, if we sent them 360 in 70 overs they probably would have not agreed to forfeit.. I think the right decision was made by both teams, we just weren't good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 17 September, 2015 Share Posted 17 September, 2015 The thinking behind this was that Dale did not want to rely on the weather in Nottingham and saw a chance of a result here. He discussed it with Yorkshire who wanted a smaller total to go for. Obviously we wanted a bigger total to leave them but negotiations were stacked in Yorkshire favour and eventually the declaration just before play started was agreed. Although we got a good start the wicket was always favoured the batting side and so it proved despite good bowling from Hampshire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 17 September, 2015 Share Posted 17 September, 2015 The first innings against Somerset was the final nail in the coffin. Get an extra 3 or 4 batting points there, and a desperate declaration today wouldn't have been necessary: instead get a couple more bowling points today, along with a draw, and we're looking at around an extra 10 or 11 points over the last 2 matches, and everything to play for in the final round of matches. Oh well, shit happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 17 September, 2015 Share Posted 17 September, 2015 Cant blame Hants for trying this. Worth going for. Good bowling but as Steve says, they are champions for a reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 22 September, 2015 Share Posted 22 September, 2015 Won the toss and bowling. Unchanged from last week. As expected, Broad playing a very rare championship match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 22 September, 2015 Share Posted 22 September, 2015 http://live.trentbridge.co.uk/#stream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 22 September, 2015 Share Posted 22 September, 2015 11-2. Both to Edwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 22 September, 2015 Share Posted 22 September, 2015 Great start again, their middle order seem to be digging in again though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 22 September, 2015 Share Posted 22 September, 2015 340 all out. Could have been better, but fair play to Edwards, with six wickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 22 September, 2015 Share Posted 22 September, 2015 Stevenson opens with Adams, and takes strike. Goes first ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadesmith Posted 22 September, 2015 Share Posted 22 September, 2015 Lost nigh****chman first ball. I always feel night watchman tend to be a waste of time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 22 September, 2015 Share Posted 22 September, 2015 Never understood the point of the nigh****chman - which batsman is most likely to be able to see out the rest of the day, a tailender or the specialist batsman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 22 September, 2015 Share Posted 22 September, 2015 Never understood the point of the nigh****chman - which batsman is most likely to be able to see out the rest of the day, a tailender or the specialist batsman? A specialist nigh****chman like Derek Underwood for instance is a useful thing to have in the case of just a couple of overs in poorish conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 23 September, 2015 Share Posted 23 September, 2015 89/5 now, top order all gone for not a great deal, sad, sad season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 23 September, 2015 Share Posted 23 September, 2015 267/8, wagging tail. Sussex 248 all out. It's not over yet, win this and Sussex lose and it's the great escape. It's the hope that kills you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Lej Posted 23 September, 2015 Share Posted 23 September, 2015 298/8 at close. Shame bad light came into play as we were well on top and may well have finished up with another 25-30 runs. Still, right back in the game now. Good to see some fight if nothing more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadesmith Posted 23 September, 2015 Share Posted 23 September, 2015 I know we go on about not signing any more ageing foreign players....but with Berg and Edwards this year we would have been relegated about six weeks ago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 24 September, 2015 Share Posted 24 September, 2015 298/8 at close. Shame bad light came into play as we were well on top and may well have finished up with another 25-30 runs. Still, right back in the game now. Good to see some fight if nothing more This. As posted above, its the hope that kills you. Look dead and buried at 89/5 and then this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 24 September, 2015 Share Posted 24 September, 2015 So a deficit of 14 on the first innings, better than it looked at one point but we still need to bowl them out cheaply and knock off the difference. Add to that that Sussex still have to lose.....far fetched scenario all in all. I hope that we won't regret the attempt at a result against Yorkshire, although it's been a poor season all round and that decision was only made necessary by previous poor results anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted 24 September, 2015 Share Posted 24 September, 2015 If Hampshire win and Sussex lose, Hampshire stay up by one point - I think! Can't see it happening though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 24 September, 2015 Share Posted 24 September, 2015 I hope that we won't regret the attempt at a result against Yorkshire, although it's been a poor season all round and that decision was only made necessary by previous poor results anyway. Hopefully, for the last time. If we hadn't made the arrangement with Yorkshire, we could have picked up a further maximum 7 points (2 bowling and 5 for the draw). We would still be 7 points behind Sussex as it now stands, so the situation would be exactly the same. We must win and Sussex must lose. If we had beaten Yorks and got the 16 points, we would have been level with Sussex before this game and ahead of them on countback. There are plenty of "sticks" to use on the management this season, but that decision is not one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 24 September, 2015 Share Posted 24 September, 2015 Hopefully, for the last time. If we hadn't made the arrangement with Yorkshire, we could have picked up a further maximum 7 points (2 bowling and 5 for the draw). We would still be 7 points behind Sussex as it now stands, so the situation would be exactly the same. We must win and Sussex must lose. If we had beaten Yorks and got the 16 points, we would have been level with Sussex before this game and ahead of them on countback. There are plenty of "sticks" to use on the management this season, but that decision is not one of them. Ah but no, all would change if we won and they drew I think. If we should win and they only draw then we advance by 11 points compared to them. If we'd got those theoretical extra 7 against Yorks then a win for us and a draw for them would see us above them I think. I doubt that we'll win anyway so it will all become academic. I supported that decision anyway and am certainly not looking to beat anyone with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 24 September, 2015 Share Posted 24 September, 2015 If Hampshire win and Sussex lose, Hampshire stay up by one point - I think! Can't see it happening though. I can Notts 178 for 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 24 September, 2015 Share Posted 24 September, 2015 Ah but no, all would change if we won and they drew I think. If we should win and they only draw then we advance by 11 points compared to them. If we'd got those theoretical extra 7 against Yorks then a win for us and a draw for them would see us above them I think. I doubt that we'll win anyway so it will all become academic. I supported that decision anyway and am certainly not looking to beat anyone with it. Correct. If we'd taken the draw against Yorks and now end up beating Notts, then Sussex would need to beat Yorks instead of only needing a draw. But all easy in hindsight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 24 September, 2015 Share Posted 24 September, 2015 (edited) Correct. If we'd taken the draw against Yorks and now end up beating Notts, then Sussex would need to beat Yorks instead of only needing a draw. But all easy in hindsight. And with Hants now in an excellent looking position, unless Notts have a big tail wag again, that bad bargain against Yorks is going to be churned up time and time again this winter. It leaves Sussex just needing to straight bat their way to a draw which they probably will, being under no pressure whatsoever. We put it all on red and it came up black. Edited 24 September, 2015 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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